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8mm tapes - cassette coding



Frage von mattschulz:
Juni 2006

Hi,

I have a tape recorder (Akai A-DAM DR1200) from the 80s.

Apparently, this requires an 8mm tape Akai DRT1720 required 1729.

Since I had none on hand, I have to see if the drive is running at all, kurzerheind a data volume (data tape) taken.

The tape was immediately ejected.

Then I read about this, that the machine possibly synonymous with Hi8 - running bands. Had you not one, but one Video8 tape.
That is still synonymous in there (although the mechanism has not been able to pull the tape around the head - another wahrschinlich Teman here in the forum).

In any case, I noticed that the rear cassettes are encoded differently, which was synonymous why the data cassette has been ejected.

Now the real question:

As the coding of the tapes is really accurate?

Have Hi8 tapes synonymous another encoding than the Video8?

And it may be that the above mechanical failure is the fact that I am perhaps a Hi8 tape must take?

Thank you very much

Matthias



Antwort von Jan:

Would be possible to separate Hi 8 / S-video transfers, like brightness and color signals, in contrast to 8 and use the video with an FM carrier frequency of 6,7 MHz, Hi 8 tapes metal bands.

Perhaps still Markus reports - yes, he had plenty of 8 mm film / practical experience, unlike me, because I'm more consumer MiniDV / DVD Experienced.

LG
Jan



Antwort von Quadruplex:

As far as I know, the Akai unit a multi-channel digital audio recorder. The demand is not without reason Hi8 tapes - the range is slightly higher.

To cassettes encoding: With the appropriate openings in the cabinet was between Video8, distinguished and Hi8 MP Hi-8 ME. Put the cassette side by side - then you see the differences.

And if you'll get the equipment up and running again, use good Hi8 cassette ...





Antwort von Jan:

Yes, I do not know the device can play the Digital 8 video cameras, the 8, so synonymous have no problem with Hi 8, Studio 8 cameras, Digi is so synonymous with video and Hi 8 tapes, maybe you're compatible ....

LG
Jan



Antwort von mkrawietz:

"Quadruplex" wrote:

As far as I know, the Akai unit a multi-channel digital audio recorder.


Exactly. 12-track multitrack.

"Quadruplex" wrote:

To cassettes encoding: With the appropriate openings in the cabinet was between Video8, distinguished and Hi8 MP Hi-8 ME. Put the cassette side by side - then you see the differences.


Onich the differences between the data cartridge and the Video8've seen. Hi8 is now again coded differently?
Must see me, where I bring here one Hi8 cassette.

Meanwhile, I'm ready, that I (by removing various lid) over a couple of 'service desk' functions can be tested individually for the drive. Somehow one of the levers seems to stand for 'slow' and mechanics will notice this and will remain. However, I kan a tape to load by the service buttons.

A 'Format' then makes a mistake, however - probably because it is not a Hi8 - cassette.

So I will see first time that I herbekomme the right tape material before I try to continue, remove the drive '. I guess that is s.Alter (rancid oil?).

"Quadruplex" wrote:

And if you'll get the equipment up and running again, use good Hi8 cassette ...


But since you can bet on it take ........ I want to work with the machine (), at least as a hobby.

Matthias



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Onich the differences between the data cartridge and the Video8've seen.

What have you got s.Wickel for a data cartridge? As far as I know, there were only specific data versions of DAT. Video8/Hi8 was indeed synonymous used for data storage - I know, but the standard video cassettes.
"Anonymous" wrote:
Hi8 is now again coded differently?

Yes - see above.
Normally it would be synonymous on the cassette tray any logo. Standing there on it Hi8 or Video8?



Antwort von mattschulz:

"Quadruplex" wrote:

What have you got s.Wickel for a data cartridge? As far as I know, there were only specific data versions of DAT. Video8/Hi8 was indeed synonymous used for data storage - I know, but the standard video cassettes.

Now that I have found nothing on the net, I photographed the tapes, the time available to me.

1.) 3M DataTape of hinten
2.) 3M datatape of front
3.) Fuiji Hi8 of hinten
4.) Fuiji Hi8 front of
5.) SONY Video8 of hinten
6.) SONY Video8 of front

At the bottom left and right, one can very well recognize the different codes and is now synonymous clear why some tapes are easily ejected.

Of course to me is as Harakiri hobbyist the question of whether to go through 'change' of the coding something breaks. To answer this question, unfortunately I have enough 'material science' was the magnetic layer on the volumes (As is anyone who can shed some light on this matter?)

"Anonymous" wrote:
Hi8 is now again coded differently?

"Quadruplex" wrote:

Yes - see above.
Normally it would be synonymous on the cassette tray any logo. Standing there on it Hi8 or Video8?

Unfortunately, no, that has probably saved it ..... then AKAI

There is only:
PCM 12-TRACK 6-ROTARY ENGINE 6-HEAD SYSTEM
('m in the process, which .......) 6 search engines

It seems to me the following question to mind:
Is it really the 'standard' drums (Head) - So, can I get a drum manufacturer 4cm X with a share of manufacturer Y??

Well ..... I will gather next mene experiences.

Matthias



Antwort von mattschulz:

"Quadruplex" wrote:

To cassettes encoding: With the appropriate openings in the cabinet was between Video8, Hi8 MP and ME-Hi8 distinction ..


Yikes, now I have only seen - what's the matter now, the difference between 'MP' and 'ME' ........ times will go googling ...

Matthias



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"matt schulz" wrote:
Yikes, now I have only seen - what's the matter now, the difference between 'MP' and 'ME' ........ times will go googling ...

Search this forum enough for you ...



Antwort von janmoor:

"matt schulz" wrote:
Hi,

I have a tape recorder (Akai A-DAM DR1200) from the 80s.

Apparently, this requires an 8mm tape Akai DRT1720 required 1729.

Since I had none on hand, I have to see if the drive is running at all, kurzerheind a data volume (data tape) taken.

The tape was immediately ejected.

Then I read about this, that the machine possibly synonymous with Hi8 - running bands. Had you not one, but one Video8 tape.
That is still synonymous in there (although the mechanism has not been able to pull the tape around the head - another wahrschinlich Teman here in the forum).

In any case, I noticed that the rear cassettes are encoded differently, which was synonymous why the data cassette has been ejected.

Now the real question:

As the coding of the tapes is really accurate?

Have Hi8 tapes synonymous another encoding than the Video8?

And it may be that the above mechanical failure is the fact that I am perhaps a Hi8 tape must take?

Thank you very much

Matthias

Hello
Have several Dr1200 synonymous, it will just 8mm cassettes of the type P5 or P6-60MP-90MP, important in the 90's the P6 is! The recording time is shorter than orignal Akai tape. It may be synonymous Hi8 cassettes. But we must close the corresponding holes in the coding.
If you still have questions should email.
MFg Jorn



Antwort von Markus:

"janmoor" wrote:
... only 8mm of the type P5 or P6-60MP-90MP cassette ...

At 60-minute tapes, the PAL version (P5) and at 90s NTSC-type (P6)? Why this?



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Mark" wrote:
Why this?

Is the same tape, just labeled differently: PAL-Video8/Hi8 runs faster than NTSC-Video8/Hi8. The NTSC to PAL-90 is 60 - or vice versa.



Antwort von Markus:

It is clear to me, but why an Akai A-DAM DR1200 was at one track to P5 and P6 in the other demand? That strikes me as illogical.



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Mark" wrote:
That strikes me as illogical.

As someone has probably misunderstood words - you just read the article or by time. I certainly understood him, so that it is the same tape length, so the PAL 60.



Antwort von Markus:

It could be speculated now. I thought rather s.eine (so far, however, completely inexplicable) singularity in the practical application.



Antwort von jörn:

"Mark" wrote:
It could be speculated now. I thought rather s.eine (so far, however, completely inexplicable) singularity in the practical application.


Hello

So once again ..... it is according to the manual Akai DR1200 has in the cassette so that the P5-90 MP for great bond strength fluctuations. So it is dadrinn. Have with one of my Dr1200 the problem that the band s.kopftrommelausgang and Capstan verhädelt. but strangely enough only rewinds tapes top, one down to about half of it runs.
With the cassette off what seems to be, once had the SonyP5-90MP
And try not completely ran.

mfg jörn




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