Infoseite // Edius or Premiere Pro CS5?



Frage von Markus1981:


Hi,

I'm da ne question time for performance (real-time video preview) of the two editing programs Edius and Premiere Pro CS5 ...

Times ahead:
I have a "normal" PC (ie not super-fast pro-PC). Dual Core, 3 GB RAM, Windows Vista 64bit, Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS ...

I use now for several years and may make absolutely Edius without jerking, and output video in full resolution (SD), the video image (+ different effects) via Firewire s.einen TV (for preview) ...

Now I have me the trial version of Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 installed because it was advertised as so big so that Premiere will be so fast ...
But well what can I say?
Premiere managed to not even a very simple color correction smoothly over Firewire (s.TV) play ...
It is wild and jerky as the video resolution was cut in half, etc.

I appreciate that this MercuryEngine a certain graphics card required ... But somehow I think it has a hammer that Premiere (without Mercury) not even a simple color correction smoothly can spend ...
I did something wrong eingetsellt in Premiere, and why?

In Edius, I've already done on a laptop chested superimpose several clips (with color correction and various filters combined) and all this was played without the slightest jerk and with full resolution via firewire ...

Can someone tell me if I do something wrong at Premiere, or is this about normal for you to premiere a super-PC with 10 GB of RAM and a 300 ¬-graphics card needs to play an easy Color correction smoothly?

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Antwort von Riccho:

Hi Mark,

why do not you stay in Edius?
End of October, there `s the version 6.0 and what
to be advance s.Informationen gets
there is a very nice boost in Edius.

Regards

Peter

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Antwort von Jörg:

If you find that great Edius, Premiere and so impossible, then you need any advice .. but above all. after the 6.0 has several features should be present, the premiere was already familiar in the last millennium and have urged the Ediusnutzer long time.

Save yourself the learning curve, stay with the old calculator, but everything fits.

Premirevorteil by the benefit of the entire suite you will not want to use, because then your question would be illusory.

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Antwort von Markus1981:

ok, I'll stay up all cases in Edius ;-))

This is not a "religious war", who now prefer to use Edius and Premiere ...

But I'd just like to know me, why is it that does not succeed premiere such a simple filter such as a color correction issue smoothly ... or whether there is something wrong ... eingetsellt

I am very satisfied so far with Edius, but I would like to try it with just the Premiere Pro and was then surprised to fully and suddenly things that you used of Edius for years (for example, just the smooth output) in Premiere to suddenly " will issue "...

Can someone answer the following times:
Do we really for a smooth video playback in Premiere Pro a "bomb" PC with plenty of RAM and a very expensive graphics card?

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Antwort von rush:

Hi Mark,

I think it is not easy to find here an answer - because there are of course advocates for Premiere as synonymous Edius.

I was very satisfied with long Premiere CS2 and CS3 was synonymous in use.

But then I switch to HD in the course of time landed on a test basis Edius ... and already on my aging Calculator the performance was much smoother. And they differ from the workflow, not so much in my opinion.

Well and since my current nVidia card has no Calculator nunmal but I just use the onboard ATI graphics - I'm going now very good things with Edius 5.5 in AVCHD editing.

Know now not to make it clear what Permier CS5 there for my Bedrüfnisse better:)

But that's just always considered individually ...

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: Do we really for a smooth video playback in Premiere Pro a "bomb" PC with plenty of RAM and a very expensive graphics card?

Premiere CS5 is a modern, efficient cutting system.
It is built for modern computer architecture, testing, and dependent.
Your Calculator corresponds None ways this claim.
You have no way to test the performance of CS5 synonymous only remotely.
You lack the hardware, a modern OS.
No, it need not be 10G RAM, a I7 processor, a graphics card of nVidia, already Win7 64, who cut and paste avc material may reflect a RAID 0th
A normal calculator in the 1200/1500 ¬ class is sufficient.

Because now hardly anyone goes solo debut, but the master buys, is still more power required.
Here are 12G RAM certainly the basis of the config.
A vacation / family reunion filmmaker, stringing together of his clips needed, this effort does not, which is certainly better off with other solutions.

Edius is based on code from the "medial Stone Age" is thus synonymous to this equipment.
The 6.0 has some new products, where one can only wonder what the real capabilities of the program.

All this has nothing to do with religious war, but a sports car is not langjagen he tires to 165 the race track.

For your Calculator CS5 is completely inappropriate.

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Antwort von Markus1981:

ok, thank you for the reply :-)

I realize that my calculator is too weak for Premiere Pro, which I can understand synonymous ...

But I just can not understand why it all so easily creates Edius and Premiere is already stutter at the simple things ...

The man with my Rechenr in Premiere with no complex composing several layers and effects, etc. can play smoothly, I can understand even more ...

But it's applied to a single SD video track on which only a small color correction was - nothing else ...
That would still be feasible, or not?

And by the way I once synonymous CS3/CS4 tested and then there were no such high system requirements, but still jerking tuts ...

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Antwort von NEEL:

"Joerg" wrote:
A normal calculator in the 1200/1500 ¬ class is sufficient (...)
For your Calculator CS5 is completely inappropriate.



Now I had but just loud laugh .... A "normal Calculator" costs me around 700 ¬, I go out easily and Avid Edius.

use that "Pros" voluntarily Adobe Premiere, also appears to be a recent development, because so far premiere was just buggy, ressourcenfressend, to crash and had a really unsexy surface ... Somehow, the classical and useless to throw in Production Suite, which was purchased solely because of Photoshop, After Effects, Audition and Encore ...:-)

I would be really s.Markus place in Edius and Composting make complex stories in AE.

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: Premiere managed to not even a very simple color correction smoothly over Firewire (s.TV) play ...
It is wild and jerky as the video resolution was cut in half, etc.


Maybe not the synonymous base, a preview performance, and at issue here, surely, to test ...
The playback settings to "High" is set?
Certainly not, is a frequent mistake.

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Antwort von Markus1981:

Yes it is clearly all eingetsellt on high quality ...

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Antwort von Jörg:

To view
with me is not SD, but a 1080 50p timeline, with 3WegeCC
it'sa lifestyle and a title to a clip 720 EX 25p as PiP with 50%
Speed reduction ... I do not see any judder ;-))

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Antwort von Jörg:

[Quote] "Neel" wrote: "Joerg" wrote:
A normal calculator in the 1200/1500 ¬ class is sufficient (...)
For your Calculator CS5 is completely inappropriate.



Now I had but just loud laugh .... A "normal Calculator" costs me around 700 ¬,


If then serves the amusement ... I did not write of coffee grinders,
or food slicers ...

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Antwort von Markus1981:

yes that is why I understand so synonymous not know why my PC is stuttering even at the SD ....

something is not there yet, right?

But you certainly so ne beschlenigte graphics card, right?

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: But you certainly so ne beschlenigte graphics card, right?

ne Billigkarte 9800GT but with CUDA Hack.

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Antwort von Markus1981:

could possibly be the problem?
My graphics card can not be used not synonymous with the CUDA-Hack ... (Which has too little memory) ...

But as it was in CS4, as indeed the gabs beschhleunigung yet?
Were you able to work smoothly as synonymous?

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: But as it was in CS4, as indeed the gabs beschhleunigung yet?
Were you able to work smoothly as synonymous?


A preview of how trouble in CS5 was not there was just möglich.Es rendered.

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Antwort von Markus1981:

Yes exactly yes is what is so great s.Edius ...
Since you have nothing to render the preview judge on the TV to ...

So this is actually my lack of graphics card, which prevents a smooth, working CS5 ...
And with CUDA this hack works fine?

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Antwort von Jörg:

For most of them, my zickt 9800 with the latest drivers for the update to 5.02.
As well a change is needed, do not have time for extensive troubleshooting.

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