| JVC Everio "Grabster"
Question by Andreas Wenzke:
März 2009
Hello NG!
A friend of me has a camera "JVC Everio GZ "
"30 GB HDD.
He now regularly transmits the data via USB to his laptop (as
MOD file) and then converts it into a compressed format.
It always takes quite long and the raw data show an enormous amount of synonymous
Space on the disk.
It has therefore now such a device purchased
http://www.terratec.net/de/produkte/Grabster_AV_400_MX_1983.html
He hopes so, live recording on already compressed data
the calculator to have.
I find this in the form but not so good, because, as I
understand it, but offers its digital camera data. The device will
but analog, so yes it should give a quality loss. Or
should be no preference, because the camera is so bad eh?
In any event, he asked me to him to obtain a micro, because you
otherwise supposedly could not absorb sound. I can not
imagine.
It must be possible to use the microphone signal from the camera
durchzuschleifen ...?
What such a "grave" and can give me something more to say?
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Bernd Daene:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> ...
> I find this in the form but not so good, because, as I
> Understand it, but offers its digital camera data. The device will
> But analog, so yes it should give a quality loss.
Which is strongly assumed. Particularly, the common denominator of
Analog Camera and connections of composite Grabberbox to restrict
expected. And the HD-Resolutionder Camera is in this way obviously
synonymous inaccessible. But if it's really just about saving time goes
and not about quality, he can obviously do so.
> It must be possible to use the microphone signal from the camera
> Durchzuschleifen ...?
The audio plug the AV cable, which at the Camera was in
must, of course, the audio jacks in the box. At least in
Playback mode the camera should come as a sound. If not,
with another source to try, and possibly installing driver
check. If yes, it can of course be that the sound of the Camera
in live mode for some reason stummschaltet.
Bernd
Answer by Ralf- D. Grobe:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> Hallo NG!
- Nip --
> It must be possible to use the microphone signal from the camera
> Durchzuschleifen ...?
No, the thing has no audio input. It is a pure Videograbber.
And with Microphone Sound Card on eingeschleift you get the most beautiful
"Offset" between picture and sound.
> What is so "grave" and can give me something more to say?
>
Unfortunately, yes. I have the thing: D
Forget it. This thing makes no hardware encoding, but a ballert
uncompressed avi out, because you may come to 1GB/min.
A digital camcorder to capture analog synonymous makes sense only if
the digital "Connections" are all broken. The quality loss is enormous.
The trench, however, is quite useful when an old
Analog Camcorders inserting wants, such as a webcam.
Greeting
Ralf
Answer by Jürgen_He:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> A friend of me has a camera "JVC Everio GZ "
> "30 GB HDD.
>
> He now regularly transmits the data via USB to his laptop (as
> MOD file) and then converts it into a compressed format.
If you look at the data of such a camera watches
(http://jdl.jvc-europe.com/site/de/gz-hd7/spec.html), then one sees
that the recording formats Video: MPEG-2 TS "and" Audio: MPEG-1 Layer2 "
are. They are already compressed digital format and it should
Manual for help in order to learn about how he TS
(Transport Stream) 1:1 gets on his computer and with what
This program it to "MPEG-2 PS (Program Stream) or in" MPEG2 - Video
ES "and" MPEG-1 Layer 2 Audio ES "can repackage (ES = Elementarstrem)
next to it if necessary to be able to process. Thus, it maintains the
original quality of the recordings.
Even the current path appears to be new coding (and thus
verbundenenen quality losses) to go. The path on the Grabster
Box but it is completely absurd.
Gruß, Jürgen
Answer by Jürgen_He:
Ralf Grobe, D. wrote:
> No, the thing has no audio input. It is a pure
> Videograbber.
This is on the website but different:
"Analog Inputs: Composite (RCA) and S-video, stereo audio (RCA)"
(http://www.terratec.net/de/produkte/technische-daten/produkte_technische_daten_de_3313.html)
Gruß, Jürgen
Answer by Ralf- D. Grobe:
Jürgen He wrote:
> Ralf Grobe, D. wrote:
>> No, the thing has no audio input. It is a pure
>> Videograbber.
>
> This is on the website but different:
> "Analog Inputs: Composite (RCA) and S-Video, Stereo Audio
> (RCA) "
> (http://www.terratec.net/de/produkte/technische-daten/produkte_technische_daten_de_3313.html)
>
> Gruß, Jürgen
Hmm yes, 'Sorry ... there are several Dero.
I have the "Grabster AV150, which provides synonymous different.
Hold good even less ;-)
Tschö
Ralf
Answer by Jens Dorn:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> Hallo NG!
>
> A friend of me has a camera "JVC Everio GZ "
> "30 GB HDD.
>
> He now regularly transmits the data via USB to his laptop (as
> MOD file) and then converts it into a compressed format.
> It always takes quite long and the raw data show an enormous amount of synonymous
> Space on the disk.
The transfer of data to the calculator can already take bissel. At
me 14MB / s. Otherwise, my USB is faster - let's say around 18-20MB / s. I
would not with the Everio software make. The backups take forever!
With the accompanying software CyberLink PowerDirector Express can
then his film pieces (MOD) to a film "sew together". If the
Mpeg2 output format is chosen, will not re-rendered. A
1stündiger film is 10min (depending on CPU) ready. The quality is
unchanged. I guess when the recording quality "fine" - ie
Compression slightest. This is close s.der quality of a DVD. That
Output format is then DolbyDigital mpg with sound. The file can then be with
such as TMPGEnc DVD Author to DVD weiterberarbeitet be.
Gruss Jens
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My opinion is clear, please do not confuse me with facts.
http://www.jens-dorn.de
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Hello NG!
Ever grateful for the responses.
I had only recently with the wife of my friend can speak now
himself:
Also, it is not so much a question of time during compression to save
but mainly, the micro camera is simply liable grotte
bad.
The grabber is now easy to provide a reasonable audio signal
to deliver. So ordinary Micro Camera s.Grabber, Grabber s.PC.
Eh Incorporated is always "stationary".
What a Micro should be given because s.besten take?
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Wolfgang Hauser:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> but is mainly the micro camera is simply =
grotte-term
> bad.
>
> The grabber is now easy to provide a reasonable audio signal
> to provide. So ordinary Micro Camera s.Grabber, Grabber s.PC.
> Incorporated is anyway always "stationary".
Then would be a camcorder with connection possibility for external
Microphone meaningful. In particular, synonymous, because Grabberkistchen
usually a line for audio input have microphones so even
not directly fit.
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Wolfgang Hauser wrote:
>> The grabber is now easy to provide a reasonable audio signal
>> To supply. So ordinary Micro Camera s.Grabber, Grabber s.PC.
>> Eh Incorporated will always be "fixed".
>
> Then would be a camcorder with connection possibility for external
> Microphone meaningful.
My friend has this option unfortunately already bought and probably
been synonymous for so long that you can no longer exchange.
Remember, however, that it comes cheaper, as I said, it takes eh
anyway just to lineside.
> In particular synonymous because Grabberkistchen
> Usually a line for audio input have microphones so even
> Not directly fit.
Oh. What does it mean? The fact that only active microphones go? That we still have a
Preamplifier must organize?
Know me with Audio - / video technology, unfortunately, not enough, I actually
rather the software people.
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Wolfgang Hauser:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> Wolfgang Hauser wrote:
>>> The grabber is now easy to provide a reasonable =
Audio Signal
>>> To supply. So ordinary Micro Camera s.Grabber, grabbers on =
PC.
>>> Incorporated is anyway always "stationary".
>>
>> Then would be a camcorder with connection possibility for a =
external
>> Microphone meaningful.
>
> My friend has this option unfortunately already bought and probably
> been synonymous for so long that you can no longer exchange.
> Remember, however, that it is cheaper;
One could for example sell on eBay. Current Technikkram achieved
Prices then mostly good.
>> In particular synonymous because Grabberkistchen
>> Usually a line for audio input have microphones so even
>> Not directly fit.
>
> Oh. What does it mean? The fact that only active microphones go? That we still have a
> Preamplifiers must organize?
Preamplifier. So even a box anymore.
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Wolfgang Hauser wrote:
>>> In particular synonymous because Grabberkistchen
>>> Usually a line for audio input have microphones so even
>>> Not directly fit.
>> Oh. What does it mean? The fact that only active microphones go? That we still have a
>> Preamplifiers must organize?
>
> Preamplifier. So even a box anymore.
And what would be with an active microphone? Did not the preamplifier
already built?
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Bernd Daene:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> ...
> Oh. What does it mean? The fact that only active microphones go? That we still have a
> Preamplifiers must organize?
I have the model number of the maimed Camera times as
"GZ-HD30EX" interpreted. This has, according to an online data
Connection for an external microphone, which has suitable
Microphone types, however, nothing stands next to.
To connect directly s.die Box, it should certainly be a Microphone
with its own power supply.
> My friend has this option unfortunately already bought and probably
> Been synonymous for so long that you can no longer exchange.
The real misjudgment is my HDTV-capable camera, the
in this configuration is apparently doomed, only
Standard resolution on makeshift Composite Output extradite.
Bernd
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Bernd Daens wrote:
> I have the model number of the maimed Camera times as
> "GZ-HD30EX" interpreted. This has, according to an online data
> Connection for an external microphone, which has suitable
> Microphone types, however, nothing stands next to.
Have asked my friend, the version with Microphone input would be
probably almost twice as expensive, he has not.
> To connect directly s.die Box, it should certainly be a Microphone
> With its own power supply.
Thus an asset with a built-in microphone preamp?
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Bernd Daene:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> ...
> Also an asset with a built-in microphone preamp?
Yes clear, and although with its own battery (there is synonymous with what
Remote management via the microphone). However, I can not thee
concrete type name. An adapter of RCA jack on will certainly synonymous
necessary.
Bernd
Answer by Bernd Nomi:
Bernd Daens wrote:
> Andreas Wenzke wrote:
>> ...
>> Also an asset with a built-in microphone preamp?
>
> Yes clear, and although with its own battery (there is synonymous with what
> Remote management via the microphone). However, I can not thee
> Concrete type name. An adapter of RCA jack on will certainly synonymous
> Necessary.
Caution, do not try and save s.falschen end. The
Active microphones are very susceptible to what the body and wind noise is concerned. For
appropriate brackets and windscreens must be a lot of Money
spend often more than for himself Mike
Answer by Jens Dorn:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> Also, it is not so much time during compression to save
> But is mainly the micro camera is simply
> Grotte liable bad.
>
That is certainly the most appropriate place to deliver the camera.
I myself have an Everio GZ-331 with 30GB HDD - So close s.der
Heading mutilated.
Because in my tape to a sample times the recording device was defective,
I have had with this same Camera beholfen. The quality was more
than just passable - exceeded all our expectations. Only the
My tape volume in the sample chamber was not completely for the
Input sensitivity suitable. Of course, our Zoom H2 better,
but it went.
Now I tend to the bold assertion that the claims of the friend
are much higher than when he purchase a 350-euro Article expect
OR he may have chosen the wrong settings. The manual is
obviously something about this:
I do not get it out - laziness is not supported.
The Autioquali depends s.der video quality. The 2 highest settings
grant with 383kbits audio, only the normal 128 and the last I know
not now. In addition, you can use a wind filter and
off.
Gruss Jens
--
My opinion is clear, please do not confuse me with facts.
http://www.jens-dorn.de
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Jens Dorn wrote:
> Now I am inclined to the bold assertion that the claims of the friend
> Much higher than when he purchase a 350-euro Article expect
> OR he may have chosen the wrong settings.
Wind Filter & Co. are not needed, the video quality is
seems sufficient.
It's about Seminar recordings, the camera is about 5m from the speakers
away. It seems like it is too far.
A wind filter is not needed, everything is indoors.
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
Answer by Jens Dorn:
Andreas Wenzke wrote:
> Jens Dorn wrote:
>> Now I am inclined to the bold assertion that the claims of the
>> Friends are much higher when he held a Purchase
>> 350-euro article or expect he has the wrong settings
>> Elected.
>
> Wind Filters & Co. are not needed, the video quality is
> Seem to be sufficient.
> It's about seminar recordings, the camera is about 5m from the speakers
> Away. It seems like it is too far.
Then it may be the Known with the Zoom H2 or other audio recorder
good job.
http://www.thomann.de/de/zoom_h2.htm?sidpc3c943e15f01027b3ca7ccd2986eba
With a little practice, it is perhaps the sound of the video recorder
cut together. Since there are 4 microphones that can meet needs
"align" can be. So 2 for 90 ° or 2 for 120 ° - the simultaneous
Use of 4-round microphone for sound. Can be in
uncompressed CD quality, 44100Hz or MP3 of 48-320bits/sek or
VBR.
Gruss Jens
--
My opinion is clear, please do not confuse me with facts.
http://www.jens-dorn.de
Answer by Andreas Wenzke:
Jens Dorn wrote:
> Then it may be of acquaintances with the Zoom H2 or other audio recorder
> Good job.
He has such a small thing, in blue. No idea what a Model
that is.
This makes it an audio recording of synonymous so is reasonably ok.
I could imagine but, conversely, that perhaps this
small thing can do, if you are a "real" Micro buys.
> With a little practice, it is perhaps the sound of the video recorder
> Cut together.
I think it would mean too much effort. Sound and video are so
not exactly at the same time, ie, you should always manual
post-process, which I imagine is extremely difficult and time consuming
before, especially since there are breaks in the seminar.
Liebe Grüße,
Andreas
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