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Frage von XiXiDu:


Hello, I have registered yesterday, so this is my first post. I have recently decided to send me back a video camera to buy. In 1999, I have time and again in 2004. But again and again abandoned, because it is frankly all a bit too cumbersome and complicated. Since digital photography is much easier. Now that HD for your home has become affordable, but I wanted to try again. I have some time engaged in reading tests, sample videos viewed, etc. and had my Canon HV10 for the decision. I was with the Camera of the picture and sound quality completely satisfied, but there were some things, like synonymous earlier, which prompts me to move the camera back. The time of dubbing of tape would be more bearable been synonymous eventually I just 20 minutes in the format you get to DVD. But I have not managed to streaks in the fast movements to eliminate them. I am totally überfragt why are there. On tape like this was nothing to see, is not synonymous to my HD television, only on the PC. The video was synonymous only 25fps. Should not 50 be? Well, then I sat down for a lot cheaper Sanyo Xacti HD1A decided. The part I have currently. The Sanyo is almost exactly what I wanted, just the camera into the docking station and make the videos like photos being copied. Done! With the cut, I eh not much s.Hut. After I but now the quality of the Canon had to know, that's what Sanyo has already given a lot worse. Of course this is partly synonymous much cheaper, but the Canon has given me because of Picture and sound much better, so much better that the surcharge would be worthwhile. I think really need more, my Canon to buy back, but only provided me can anyone help me and explain what it is with the stripes on it. It would be synonymous nice if I get a few tips might be getting more than 20 minutes on a DVD brings. Well, I know you all in another format can store but have no idea what is lossless and not equal to 5 days needed to convert! Or if I get another camera could recommend to the image quality of the Canon with the simplicity of the Sanyo united. I thought maybe s.die Panasonic comes in March, SVCHD to SD card. But is that just as with the Sanyo? Are the videos at the same SVCHD cameras ready to watch and just have to be copied to the PC? What would you recommend? Again Canon?

Many questions of a real amateur. I have tried to search but not really found the right answers. I would be grateful if someone with my problem / problems could write something.

Here a picture to explain what I'm with "striae my:
http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/6112/2005602746925415009_rs.jpg

Even if it maximizes the picture are still there, just not as strong. As I said on tape s.Television sees everything super redundant and without streaks from.

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hello, otpimal to these questions to get answered, it was otherwise in a film club. Today, probably no more or? www.bdfa.de

Regards

cutaway

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Antwort von StefanS:

Would you search

Field
Interlace
Deinterlace

in the years 1999 and 2004 times typed into a search engine, would you perhaps years of frustration have been spared and you would have been more fun this time s.Deinem potential hobby.

You should maybe once synonymous read everything, what we say:

www.slashcam.de (at the very top / / / Topics)
www.edv-tipp.de

This helps in understanding a very complex matter.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von XiXiDu:

"cutaway" wrote: Hello, otpimal to these questions to get answered, it was otherwise in a film club. Today, probably no more or? www.bdfa.de
Nope, I am studying so synonymous not the same law if I need legal advice.

"Stefan" wrote: Would you search

Field
Interlace
Deinterlace

in the years 1999 and 2004 times typed into a search engine, would you perhaps years of frustration have been spared ...

The terms tell me nothing. Before I know where I should look for? Moreover, the problems were really the only long-dubbing and claimed the cost per DVD.

I thought to myself I've been here a few times will be advised to read everything. That's nice and good, that I would sooner or later synonymous make. But I can not for any thing which I have occupied the same read everything, or else I come to nothing more. Is not exactly little. There is actually forums? Yes, I had a quick brief explanation so that I hoped not everything needs to read what it is relating to camcorder ...

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Antwort von Markus73:

"XiXiDu" wrote: Yes, I had a quick brief explanation so that I hoped not everything needs to read what it is relating to camcorder ...

The man has actually given you: your problem is the Halbbildfolge. In short: Should s.PC's good looking, do you use "progressive" for the Television You can, as it already is (presumably interlaced, bottom field first ").

For everything else you will not drumrum come you into the single theme, slogans have already been mentioned.

Gruß,
Markus

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Antwort von rootfire:

To watch for the Choice of your camcorder to help:

Of the Panasonic Model sell used: AVCHD SVCHD not! And to give you a little tip to give, give time to search AVCHD one. Then come the many contributions to the topic with AVCHD company or you can enter synonymous SR1. Because the synonymous use SonySR1 AVCHD but saves the movies on SD but not hard drive! But the principle is the same.

Under this score, you will surely find something and do not read what is here ^ ^ precisely because such issues were discussed which you are interested.

Greeting

Christian

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Antwort von StefanS:

"XiXiDu" wrote: The terms tell me nothing. Before I know where I should look for?

When I started with the issue, told me the terms synonymous nix. But I once read a lot before I had questioned the focus of what I did not understand. My signature is not of some :-)

"XiXiDu" wrote:
Moreover, the problems were really the only long-dubbing and claimed the cost per DVD.


About The Game is synonymous still an issue, supplemented by the time for the post. The price of a DVD blank and a burner, however, are no longer an issue.

"XiXiDu" wrote:
I thought to myself I've been here a few times will be advised to read everything. That's nice and good, that I would sooner or later synonymous make.


Tu please sooner than later. I repeat myself, did you have done seven years ago, you had much fun on it sooner or just get a lot sooner that you better times for all the fingers of which can.

"XiXiDu" wrote:
But I can not for any thing which I have occupied the same read everything, or else I come to nothing more. Is not exactly little.


Because lying to you but what of the right. It is just so much because it is a complex issue.

"XiXiDu" wrote: There is actually forums? Yes, I had a quick brief explanation so that I hoped not everything needs to read what it is relating to camcorder ...

As you lying now of what it wrong!

No forum is there to laziness or lack of promotion. Regardless, it is that you lack the entire Basic. You can not work now in the 5th High school class and begin the substance of the first 4 basic schooling always scrap pieces for questioning in the hope of a short answer, yes because you lack the basic knowledge to understand the answer, and because it is simply too much.

You have noticed the fact that you ncht yes even the most basic concepts that I have mentioned to you, have said something. In a figurative sense are the exact topics of the first 4 basic schooling.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von XiXiDu:

"Stefan" wrote: No forum is there to laziness or lack of promotion. Regardless, it is that you lack the entire Basic. You can not work now in the 5th High school class and begin the substance of the first 4 basic schooling always scrap pieces for questioning in the hope of a short answer, yes because you lack the basic knowledge to understand the answer, and because it is simply too much.

You have noticed the fact that you ncht yes even the most basic concepts that I have mentioned to you, have said something. In a figurative sense are the exact topics of the first 4 basic schooling.

I see that it is synonymous differently, see Sanyo halt or look at digital cameras, which just make a video, done. I've just no time to myself with all occupations. I had my question, perhaps a different way to be. I will simply record a few movies, they watch me and archiving, all in HD quality. I would have a response already a link like this - http://www.lenz-online.de/interlace/ - enough! Then I would have seen that I can forget.

So do you have right. I'm too lazy for such a technique and apathetic to how to deal with them. I would maybe ask to be quite different. What I want simple. An analogy would be to photography perhaps I have a digital camera to search the high-resolution, high-quality photos. And no camera with film chemistry bombig the cost and then subsequently developed and scanned to be ... because I have no interest and I am too lazy!

And if that too much to ask is, well synonymous. Do I just MediaMarkt me at all times and lend themselves to see what comes around. The seller and may provide hotlines synonymous nothing clever to say.

The Sanyo is perfect, why are there not something of other manufacturers and then in better quality? Perhaps AVCHD? Let's see, I will look at what the search rootfire said.

To look at my lack of basic knowledge to come back. I want me not to acquire. I do not synonymous and learn how to develop films just so that I can take pictures. What I want to know this where I do not need. If you do not like it, I am sorry!

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Antwort von StefanS:

"XiXiDu" wrote:
I want what simple ...

... Perhaps AVCHD?

To look at my lack of basic knowledge to come back. I want me not to acquire. I do not synonymous and learn how to develop films just so that I can take pictures. What I want to know this where I do not need. If you do not like it, I am sorry!


"AVCHD" and "easily" linked to, is as in "cow" and "skating" to search for commonalities.

Ask me but do not understand why this is so. In order to understand the why should you have a little knowledge are appropriated. If you do not like it, I am sorry :-)

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von Jan:

"cutaway" wrote: Hello, otpimal to these questions to get answered, it was otherwise in a film club. Today, probably no more or? www.bdfa.de

Regards

cutaway


What are we then?, I think we must not behind Club with 30 people hiding ....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Martin:

Hello,

HD when it should be, the target media is DVD, and more cutting is not desired - then why go through the DV (as with the Canon)? There are of SonyDVD cameras in high definition, recording to DVD. All the HDR-UX models are as probably the best choice. Or the hard-variant HDR-SR1.

Incidentally, the resolution is not the only criterion in the purchase of a camera is important. Good Optics is at least equally important. In many practical cases, the quality of an excellent standard - DV camcorder more than a consumer HD (V) "camcorder. Examples: with low-light shots, shots with less depth.

Greeting
Martin

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Antwort von XiXiDu:

So I did a bit more than half, Interlace, Deinterlace read. There is for example Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinterlacing):

"Wikipedia" wrote: Line unbundling (Engl. deinterlaces) denotes a process by which images of an in-line hopping this video in full conversion. This is fundamentally necessary if the recording camera is working with Skip and recording cameras and display screens have a different temporal and vertical structure. These include 100-Hz television sets all non-CRT TV, so LCD and Plasma screens. In addition to direct representation are synonymous rear projection and front projection screens of these techniques affected. Even though TV programs or video DVDs with Skip originating on computer monitors of all kinds should be, is always a need deinterlacing. Only traditional 50-Hz CRT TVs and 50-Hz CRT Projectors come from without deinterlacing.
That I do not understand. Why did not I get streaks on my Samsung LCD HDTV? I have strange as what I just noticed no streaks synonymous when I look at the video after recording with Adobe Premiere (. Mpeg) with Nero Showtime, then it is like on the television. What is the whole? The Sanyo does it on both the PC and every player on the television without any problems ... so without streaks.

I will probably but now with all the stuff to deal because as I see now all but Sanyo have this problem. Unfortunately! I have nähmlich just as a video of the SonySR1 loaded, the same crap. So the only advantage would be that you are not in real time on the PC, but this is not worth it because the Canon is much cheaper, I think. But what if it deinterlaces Nero Showtime may be synonymous. Well, currently I'm still a bit lost:)

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Antwort von XiXiDu:

"Stefan" wrote: "XiXiDu" wrote:
I want what simple ...

... Perhaps AVCHD?

To look at my lack of basic knowledge to come back. I want me not to acquire. I do not synonymous and learn how to develop films just so that I can take pictures. What I want to know this where I do not need. If you do not like it, I am sorry!


"AVCHD" and "easily" linked to, is as in "cow" and "skating" to search for commonalities.

Ask me but do not understand why this is so. In order to understand the why should you have a little knowledge are appropriated. If you do not like it, I am sorry :-)

I do not want to cut but the videos are just about as easy as possible on the PC to bring it to a player and to view archived. Without images, deinterlacing, conversion, etc., as if for the Sanyo HD1A only with better quality. As I thought would be the correct because AVCHD is not on the tape recording. But as I now see there is the same problem with the streaks. I had hoped that only the Canon and then the other will function as the Sanyo.

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Antwort von Gast1:

"XiXiDu" wrote: ... I am well but now with all the stuff to deal ...

Yes you need not synonymous. If you do not have time to log a little bit in the single matter, you must stop to buy ... Good luck
Opens it, you get knocked back on his shoulder. It does not work you can check your Neuerwerbungsliste still at Ebay verrubbeln.

A tip yet: your PC screen are certain video -/Fernsehbilder differently again, as your Television. Therefore, the batten fence effect. If you know what it is, could you adjust your PC. The cost to find out with certainty less time than writing your statements :-)

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Antwort von Jan:

That is one reason why synonymous camera men, mostly with better filming technique (like Matthias), not so right about the AVCHD & HDV cameras can look.

You can stop in the small data rate of HDV & AVCHD is not as wild rumschwenken ", or only when one image artifacts and errors in Purchase Notes. With HDV you have a bit of caution,
Wheat has shown that even with faster movement little compression artifacts are visible, but this was not a consumer HDV.

Have I filmed with the HV 10 is not that they are too weak for me in Lowlight, synonymous Focus Error (Videofilmen reported) blur shortly before the end of Focus on faster Durchzoomen or fall on Focus jumps.

The 50 fields to 25 frames theory yes now you have certainly already read.

Sanyo makes the best better, therefore, because the pure with 30 frames, or even 60 frames at 640x480. It is possible that the engine of MPEG Sanyo synonymous better than that of Canon, and may be synonymous with small data rates of motion in detail.

Sanyo will make an SD-like sharpness said, then the HV 10 is significantly better. I think but not the new HD 2 is better because, rather a slightly modified model, where even most of the 60 P mode has been reduced.

I would look at the new Panasonic HDC SD 1 anschauen, Panasonic has been in the SDR 100 / 150 showed a MPEG Picture not always
mies must be - their MPEG 2 engine works very well, look how the new MPEG 4 in 1 is the SD.

Professionals smile at the cheap HD solution, but usually more synonymous Kleingeld available.

VG
Jan

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