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A few questions about the church wedding ...?




Question of Uwe:
Juli 2005

Hi,

I was asked if I paid with the religious ceremony would be followed by a film festival.

Although I am divorced 2x, but I never had a kirchl been through marriage. How does it work? How long is about preaching to the "appearance" of the couple with the Yes-word?

What happens next? How big is the period until the bride and groom coming out?

Is it advisable to work with 2 cameras on? Have a GS 400 - but could still a kl. Panasonic Obtaining of a friend. I thought to myself that I am the "little" let down the shot record, while I'm with the 400 + medium shot Nahaufnhmen (bride and groom, parents ... etc.). But to leave the idea with the two camcorders, then the church gives me a headache already + beads of sweat on his forehead ... Little stands still then only once, with the 400 while I'm waiting until they get out in front of the church?

Who has some answers + tips?




Reply Markus:

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Reply Uwe:

Thanks Marcus. - The synonymous with the sound I've thought of already. Since I have no experience, I actually thought that the GS 400 as of about 3-5 meters, which should actually hinbekommen (sample recordings made in my apartment from a distance clapped (on Zoom-Micro ...)

Otherwise, I had something here of reading one minidisc recorder, the bridegroom with kl. Micro s.Anzug has hidden somewhere ...

Yes, the conversation with the pastor yet to come - but I did not want so very "stupid" darstehen with the flow. Otherwise, still thinks that "Dödel" has absolutely no idea ...

How long does it take for now as the Yes-word until the extract from the church?.



Reply Voltz:

Hello Uwe,

So such a ceremony takes about a good hour. The "Yes-word" is, if I remember correctly, somewhere between one half and the beginning of the last third.

You do not worry too much. On our wedding synonymous, an acquaintance has filmed. Actually it was pretty amateurish, because piecemeal. Still, the arrival of the bride could be seen, the mood in the church, of course, the "Yes-word" and exchange of rings (the latter may be much more exciting than the "breathy," Yes ", especially if the rings are not on the / fingers as they want to!) and the champagne reception after the church, outside in the open air.
We had then but still terribly happy.

I have the material later, after I own the hobby started with DV editing, reworked and now a nice round story, enriched with lots of photos, made of it. My wife looks at the video again and again to be happy :-)

In the subsequent section, it is advantageous if you have a continuous soundtrack. This applies especially to music that is being sung or played in the background. And here is probably synonymous for the later video "The Short and sweet."

Good luck and post times but then your experience here. I am in mid-August even invited to a wedding. But since I am not in charge "was" I'll take me back, and his surprise the bride and groom later with some atmosphäischen impressions.



Reply StefanS:

Search doch mal in the category "mixed", right, with the nearly 100,000 of contributions. There was a few months ago, the film the theme of "marriage" in depth.

Greeting
Stefan



Reply silentzero:

I have the same problem, but for me is not married in church but in the registry office.



Reply GhostDog:

Silentzero,

The wedding at the registry office take - depending on the registrar - 5 to 10 minutes. He / She made a brief speech, then comes the Yes-word, followed by the signatures of the couple and the two witnesses. Finish.



Reply Voltz:

Incidentally, the exchange of rings in a civil ceremony is not actually provided. That is why the couple should clarify this in advance with the registrar so that there is visible in the video synonymous with something festive :-)



Reply WeiZen:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Silentzero,

The wedding at the registry office take - depending on the registrar - 5 to 10 minutes. He / She made a brief speech, then comes the Yes-word, followed by the signatures of the couple and the two witnesses. Finish.


synonymous 25 minutes babble have happened. Snore.



Reply Uwe:

Hi,

ne question again about the position of the 2 cameras. So when the couple walks in to the church (give to music + singing?), Where I place the order CC s.besten shot?

Perhaps the back, then we see the invasion of the couple in this recording of the back. With the other Cam then of the front. But then I would probably be with the Picture ...? Or both of the front => one shot medium shot einaml + Nah?

Then during the sermon, both the front right (as seen from the input)?



Reply StefanS:

Hi,

synonymous if it may sound corny, I advise you again to use the search function in our store. There are just some of the threads associated with weddings, the synonymous discuss the issue of the positioning of the cameras.

Keyword search: axis jump

Greeting
Stefan



Reply Uwe:

Sorry Stefan, the axis jump is already known to me. But you still read again the question by ...



Reply Voltz:

Apart from the issue axle jump, I would place the "fixed" camcorder so that I have in front of the couple diagonally on it in the background and the guests. With the "mobile" camcorder, you can on the same page, on which the solid camcorder is "going on tour" and hold different impressions (bride and groom, witnesses, pastors, parents in the long shots, impressions of the church, etc.) that you Then you can use for Insertschnitte.
If you sent the place, you see yourself in the finished video is not synonymous "at work".

To your first question: So typically comes at the beginning of the famous Wedding March (Midsummer Night's Dream Of Mendelssohn-Bartholdy). This traditionally the bride enters the church itself, led of her father, who hands over the bride before the altar s.den bridegroom, who is waiting there with his best man.



Reply StefanS:

"Uwe" wrote:
Sorry Stefan, the axis jump is already known to me. But you still read again the question by ...


http://forum.slashcam.de/hochzeitsvideo-ton-in-der-kirche-vt24071.html?highlight=achsensprung
http://forum.slashcam.de/kosten-der-videoaufnahme-vt26448.html?highlight=hochzeit
http://forum.slashcam.de/wie-filme-ich-eine-hochzeit-am-besten--vt21199.html?highlight=hochzeit
http://forum.slashcam.de/hochzeitsvideo-wie-schneiden-vt20907.html?highlight=hochzeit

Greeting
Stefan



Reply Voltz:

Stefan, what have you for a problem you actually do? Let's ask him.
For the search, it is too late now anyway. Did we stop there is a long thread on the topic. Well, and?



Reply StefanS:

"Voltz" wrote:
Stefan, what have you for a problem you actually do? Let's ask him.
For the search, it is too late now anyway. Did we stop there is a long thread on the topic. Well, and?


You call it a "problem"

I call it "an allergic reaction too lazy to look at - but not to piss each questioner to s.The barrow want!

It happens, unfortunately, so that on the subject of marriage, is the same as on various other topics (VHS to DVD with its variations, I think, the lone runner) for years repeatedly asked the same questions that often came the same question several times a day, usually without seeking synonymous only once the search function of the Forum.

And as I read along here for years and a pretty good "there was something" I have remembered it simply allows me to refer to this function. If it is not sought, and still found that I am taking when I'm in a good mood, even once the time and search out some threads vicariously, all at least some of the questions to edit and / or answer.

For I am lazy sometimes synonymous. In fact, whenever I should again write down what already somewhere else by others and this still generally better written.

Still Crossed

Greeting
Stefan



Reply AndyZZ:

"Voltz" wrote:

To your first question: So typically comes at the beginning of the famous Wedding March (Midsummer Night's Dream Of Mendelssohn-Bartholdy). This traditionally the bride enters the church itself, led of her father, who hands over the bride before the altar s.den bridegroom, who is waiting there with his best man.


That description applies to just about any wedding in an American film. Here in Germany is, at least among Catholics, clearly handled differently. I wanted a wedding, the way you've described it. But: The Wedding March is a secular song, nix church, the couple enters the church together and will s.Input picked up by the priest, then proceed all together to the altar ....
Presumably there will be another twenty other variations ....
My recommendation: Say, especially with the priest! To some, it's not like it when is filmed. Bride and groom and pastor to meet in the rule a few times before the actual wedding ceremony. Hang yourself off, and discuss your ideas and check out especially the church in ...
Synonymous've already filmed several times in churches .... is anything but easy ...

Greeting

Andy



Reply Uwe:

"Stefan" wrote:

You call it a "problem"

I call it "an allergic reaction too lazy to look at - but not to piss each questioner to s.The barrow want!



Stefan ... + Locker Enspannen you stay! In all friendliness: I had the search angeschmissen ", but not to my initial question to the => timing of a wedding, or relating to => optimal position of the 2 cameras is said in these threads more accurate ...
I can understand it, yes, if you are already for so long that you are after 5 / 6. Questions relating to marriage might react a little overwrought, but still you should have a look at the questions a little more or reply ... not just stop How about with a few days holiday?

@ Voltz

Thanks for your answer. Help me in any case, even next.

On some american. Pages such as this one:
http://www.creativecow.net/articles/graham_doug/wedding_list/

it is recommended that:
"Ideally, use two cameras. Place one in the back third of the church, near the aisle. Start the other handheld, positioned on the bridesmaids' side of the aisle s.the altar steps. Shoot the procession, letting the bridesmaids walk past your position. After the bride arrives on her father's arm, move to a tripod placed behind the officiant and on the groom's side. This gives the best shot of the bride during the vows. .. "

Where could it now the "back third of the church to be"? Yes probably not come in to the right between the seats ...?

Here are synonymous still a good Relating to Page:
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/wedding.html



Reply Voltz:

@ StefanS
I can understand even when it comes to purely technical issues. This is about ideas, opinions and experiences. As one may ask IMHO before. Nevertheless friendship! We sit in the same boat :-)


@ AndyZZ
My own wedding went exactly like this. But we had made considerable impact on the synonymous Genze procedure. The music was as less "holy", instead we had hired a singer who has sung the beautiful gospel music. What every pastor today takes into account is the fact that this is "the day of the couple." Of course, there may be exceptions, but synonymous, most church weddings of my friends and acquaintances were running from something like that, no preference whether Catholic or Protestant.
But it is true that we should discuss a detailed schedule in advance with the bride and groom. Mostly there are even a little "program booklet. The bride and groom in turn before always agrees with the minister on the progress s.and agrees synonymous as to come as the bride and groom into the church.


@ Uwe
"back third of the church, near the aisle so says somewhere in the middle aisle. This position, I personally find less suitable, because then the bride and groom for one hour only of the back looks. I would not do, but want to show faces and emotions.

So I would imagine even more likely to build a third cam up on the balcony near the organ.



Reply Uwe:

"Voltz" wrote:


@ Uwe
"back third of the church, near the aisle so says somewhere in the middle aisle. This position, I personally find less suitable, because then the bride and groom for one hour only of the back looks. I would not do, but want to show faces and emotions.

So I would imagine even more likely to build a third cam up on the balcony near the organ.


Yes, the stupid is my inexperience in this story. So somewhere in the right input (perhaps directed behind a pillar or the like) to the front I could very well have imagined. But then very quickly get to the "invasion" back to the front right + can stand there - but whether this will work ...? Well, Pastor conversation ja noch + then look at you the exact locations.

But I have now at least have a rough time towards the positions of the camera + the temporal sequence of events. One can then ask the priest targeted ... does look more professional ;-)



Reply Uwe:

So, I now get one Protestant pastor of the approximate time. Might be interesting for others synonymous times:

Minute
History ---------- Possible wedding sequence - Evangelical


4
Organ prelude - the entry of the bridal couple

8
Welcoming and 1 Song

11
Prayer - A reading from the Bible?

14
2. Song

24
Sermon

28
3. Song

35
Traufrage - Trausegen - ring exchange, etc. Traubibel-handed

38
Intercession Prayer / Our Father

42
Closing Hymn

45
Adopting and blessing



Reply StefanS:

"Uwe" wrote:

Stefan ... + Locker Enspannen you stay! In all friendliness: I had the search angeschmissen ", but not to my initial question to the => timing of a wedding, or relating to => optimal position of the 2 cameras is said in these threads more accurate ...
I can understand it, yes, if you are already for so long that you are after 5 / 6. Questions relating to marriage might react a little overwrought, but still you should have a look at the questions a little more or reply ... not just stop How about with a few days holiday?



@ Uwe

But I am something of loose and relaxed :-)

But now, first time out of laziness!



On "optimal position of the 2 cameras"
- Admittedly, it was my focus --

Quotes from
http://forum.slashcam.de/hochzeitsvideo-ton-in-der-kirche-vt24071.html?highlight=achsensprung

QUOTE
Work if possible with two cameras. One thing is certain, take the whole ceremony as a long shot on the way and bring you a consistent sound. With the other, you can capture additional material, such as the organ, the audience, Nahmaufnahmen of the couple, the minister, those in which you used as intercut.
Unquote

QUOTE
Now it's getting me really aware synonymous., That is to say that I do not (as I originally wanted), a 2nd Camera set up on the opposite page of the altar should, but they must be synonymous Page on the right are (from the altar to the door on the left) ... Right?
Unquote

Quote from
http://forum.slashcam.de/wie-filme-ich-eine-hochzeit-am-besten--vt21199.html?highlight=hochzeit

QUOTE
try for a 2nd wedding To get digital, onto a camera tripod with bride and groom,
the 2 as hand-held camera on the score of the organ, etc., both cameras will be started simultaneously and run through the whole time
Unquote

I admit, I had the theme of "timing paid" no attention. However, synonymous to this point has already been said that one should entertain, if possible, in advance with the bride and groom and the priest there, and should clarify the timing. And it's nice that you have found this tip somewhere and, as you write, you have used synonymous.

Just as this notice is available in these threads, various other things that it is definitely worthwhile to read, even before one is doing the bridal couple a video that they may later show it to you prefer no more.

But again back to the position of the cameras:

The 1st fixed camera for the shot is slightly raised far back in the sanctuary, so that the altar, the priest, the bride and groom, the nave with the audience and with a little luck, nor are Orgeltribühne with the choir hudertköpfigen recognizable.

The 2nd stationary camera initially focuses once between Camera 1 and the bride and groom, but so that they can not see in the picture of the camera 1. Task of the Camera 2: bridal couple in the medium shot.

The 3rd Camera is used as a handheld camera. What is to capture it, you can read in these threads.

Also relating to "timing" something clear:

There is no universally agreed upon timing. Therefore, the personal interview with bride and groom is a pastor and not be replaced. The pastor alone the acceptance of your strange movements in the church during the ceremony due.

Also it may be known to the bride and groom and the priest. Then there will be no marriage of the anonymous, you know so, because then the priest says during the "sermon" has views like some of the history of the two delinquent. It still waäre shame to miss such a thing, because you have not figured out, as it has indeed got the timing served somewhere in a forum.

And before I disappear on vacation for you now, one more word:

If my posts have offended you so that you in addition to tips and information that you were injected directly to a little additional own initiative, have developed, have taken their own thoughts, you sly made in advance of the wedding have by you with the Pastor g



Reply Frank B.:

Another couple of comments relating to:
The priest is "landlord" in the church. So it is always with him to talk, or get permission to shoot. The bride and groom must not decide alone.
I know that most Catholic priest clarify often find it not great when someone enters the altar area - absolutely.
The "balcony" in the church the way, hot galleries. They are used quite well as (a) camera position when there are several cameras. But not every church has galleries - so make sure the church had previously inspected. In a visit to church before the ceremony is an often clearer, for example, low camera angles, lighting, access to power outlets, details of intercut much ...
I personally would never shoot a wedding without having seen the church and talked with the pastor. It is usually a bust.
Gruß Frank



Reply Markus:

"Frank B." wrote:
The priest is "landlord" in the church. So it is always with him to talk, or get permission to shoot.


I can only confirm. I once had a lot of persuasion to make a priest, who previously had a bad experience with an amateur filmmaker. That "Depp with Camera" was forced to make a scene important to the altar!

I therefore always discuss with the pastor where I want to move me and ask if that is allowed. This creates a positive attitude and the shooting is not the beginning of categorically rejected.




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