Infoseite // "safe area" on TV



Frage von Fragensteller33:


Hello,

have with DVD Architect DVD ne.

I see the DVD on the PC, everything is ok

I see the DVD on the TV left and right are missing a few centimeters.

what should I do in DVD Architect, lest the side edges of the image is lost.

Thank you.

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Antwort von Wiro:

Hello,
because what you see probably has nothing to with the authoring, but with the overscan on TVs.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan

You can the authoring tool in the preview window can show the protected areas. They give an overview of what later on the TV mglw. truncated. You have to customize your menus, if necessary, when something outside the safe range.
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von Fragensteller33:

ie, I can change nothing on it that the tv image of what is missing?

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Antwort von Thore Rehbach:

No, except the building in this important area "safe area" option, not really.

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Antwort von Wiro:

You can change nothing.
You can register for free but to accept. It corresponds to the TV standard, and synonymous with television you can see the whole picture. The audience knows it is not merely because he is not familiar with the Underscanbild.

Cameras have already taken into account on the display of the overscan. Only visible when editing is that the chip is in fact a little more is recorded. For professional cameras, you can also adjust the screen to what should be visible.
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von Eugen von ...:

Better it is thus not synonymous, that now even small LCD Television without overscan and get the image as on the PC is shown. Size advantage is not really possible: either the tube provides the same user, because his picture information is missing, or the screen layout is displayed on the LCD by wide margins s.den land bought or even destroyed.

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Antwort von Fragensteller33:

I do not understand this ..

in another forum, it was

"if you have the original building intact like, around 16 pixels wide beam dranpappen"

So with a program like fitCD or resizing tmpeg out.

what do you think?

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Antwort von Eugen von ...:

Kannst ja gerne what dranpappen ". Sieht klasse aus quite sure on the LCD, and if you have on each tube exactly 16 pixels s.allen four sides "dranpappen" must .. naja.
Just imagine what your audience is. For example, we believe that soon anyway overscan no longer an issue, because the tubes will have disappeared from the market. Much is synonymous only produced for the Web. Besides, is still synonymous SD Resolutionverschwinden.
Therefore we ignore the overscan area now, as far as it goes some way: if a customer since necessarily want to have one more thing, no synonymous preference, get the first halt.

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Antwort von Fragensteller33:

well,

kommts but I already like a much s.bild loss before ..

represents around 10% I think.

this is the safe area when you show dvd architect can and then just missing the synonymous.

if anyone has ne idea what you are here but still can do, I would be grateful.

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Antwort von Wiro:

"Fragensteller33" wrote: ... around 16 pixels wide beam dranpappen
Really cool.
It has always given people who are simply not able to accept and nasty tricks invented. When tube TV as you can imagine Ablenkwinkel understood so that the small picture is displayed around the outside and a black border out of the then overscan back cover (Attention! Not myself, but necessarily a learned Fersehtechniker behalf. 15000 Volts!: -- )

For LCD and plasma TVs will not. Some have but a Overscan interruptible, the original image is reduced so that the entire picture is visible. If not, then you can discount the workshops adjust accordingly.

And then there are the nasty trick editing program in the original Picture Overscanbereich to be reduced so that around the outside edge is a black, and then broadcast to the DVD to burn :-((( That actually makes some so .. .

Main one is not of a standard constrict. Freedom for all!
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von Thore Rehbach:

"Fragensteller33" wrote: ie, I can change nothing on it that the tv image of what is missing?

You can use the Picture in such a way that is much more important s.Rand nothing happens.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Fragensteller33

Times I do it, that you have with an analog TV device do, because your description sounds like a classic format errors.

The phenomenon arises in the transition of digital to analog.
After the digitalization of the 720 are slightly rectangular pixels then 702 square active pixels per line and 576 active lines per picture TV.
The 702 x 576 arise from the length of time (52¼s) times 13.5 MHz sampling rate.
Reinhartshausen analogy would be only 575 rows.
The 576te line results from the fact that there is a change in the fields 1 to 2 no half lines, as in the analog technology at line 313, which for the first half s.Ende Field and Field for the second half s.Anfang it is sometimes heard the speech of 575 lines and other times speaking of the 576th
If the pixels of the digitized signal PAL square, would a ratio of 702: 576 (approximately 1,22:1) arise.
This is in relation to the tube formats (4:3) rather narrow, because the converted are approximately 1,33:1.
Therefore, the pixels to such a screen to fill, slightly "wide format" his.
There are rectangles lying.
Looking at such a display on a computer monitor, which only works with square pixels, is the Picture Portrait fail.
You have the picture that is in the horizontal stretch, and although by a factor of 1.094.
The result is 702 x 1.094 = 768 and thus the correct formats: 768:576 = 4:3.

I do not know if you like now served, because I do not know what you in your programs for all parameters can but in any event, it describes the cause and shows a possibility of representation on correct.

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Antwort von Fragensteller33:

Hello,

many thanks for the effort ..

So: I have DVC PRO HD 960mal720 up with what then enforcement of the pixel 1280mal720 results.

I then pointed 720mal576 made mpeg2 and burned as a dvd.

The question is simply, what if I can change, so that the analog TV set nix missing?

the above suggestions s.den what sites dranzukleben (because just then so will cut off) does not seem so great.

there are alternative to ne?

Thank you.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Fragensteller33" wrote: ... ask is simple, what if I can change, so that the analog TV set nix missing? ...
Because I believe you can do little because the problem is due to TV and Page is already in different television sets can be pronounced differently. Therefore, attention is paid to the rotation so as carefully to the observance of the so-called "Safe Area". All subsequent solutions to the problem that I could think, are here now have already been mentioned.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von WoWu:

You must of course recognize solutions synonymous.
It is not s.der Safe Area or s.Under scan s.den but slightly different sizes of dots.
1.094 is your conversion factor, with which you need to edit your picture.
Also be found in ITU-R BT.601. I thought you walk around with television images?
More than say how it works and why it is, can we really do not. Do you need it yourself

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