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Frage von MissesKennedy:


Ok, I know that this issue has often been dealt with, but I have the urgent need but again just ask. I hope you forgive me das

The following: I work s.einem cartoon, which I later on DVD synonymous to look at the television wants to export. For this I create animation frames (bitmaps) in the Flash later be put together and then converted. The decisive question for me is how big these source images bitmaps now now must be either in pixels as synonymous in Resolutionin dpi. because it always means 720 x 576 pixels was for the TV. But are these TV - Pixel otherwise than for the PC? And the source images I create s.PC.

what makes me especially worry is that it is indeed different TV screen sizes. I can hardly imagine that the same picture on a small device looks exactly the same as this on a huge furniture.

On the PC, at any rate, so that images do not enlarge with impunity, without se that are blurry and grainy.

Such a cartoon is a GIANT work and would like to because I already prefer s.with top of the right format.

Such kind of bitmap images are:

zum Bild

For the Web is the format with no problem, because as I have done:
http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1156869

Thank you for your answers.

Diana

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Antwort von Axel:

Salut Diana,
I will flash like a waste of all the work which thou hast done. The film is also very beautiful. I believe that a Tiff sequence would be a good starting point. Weiß jemand mehr?

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

720x576 is ok
The "big" monitor as many have, of course.
only the pixel ratio changes of 4:3 (1.067) to 1.422 at 16:9.
Hope that this is precisely Jemang explain.

/ E

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Hi Eva and Alex,

Many thanks for your replies. If the latter format is ok, that would be great of course, because it is a s.PC easy to edit image size is.

It is clear to me that the last is sure to gain will be there just on the DVD player auszuproberen. I am still waiting on the delivery of such a delay and what happened to me once again brings sleepless nights, because the "question of all questions" would like to have finally resolved, before I become abundant raw material available images in sequence processing.

So if the number of pixels for large screens does not change, then the pixels are just bigger, I now take time to.

@ Alex: I am often challenged because of Flash.
Only: Where and how else should I take the image sequence composed of speed and control - s.wichtigsten - embed the sound. In flash I have the opportunity to sound files frame precisely on the time line involved, so that the "synchronization" klappt.

When it comes to program alternatives, I'm all ears. Flash is obviously deficient, because it stubbornly use the web is fixed, everything small and compact expect and want it downright tricks with "force" must be of high quality produce.

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Antwort von Axel:

Salut Diana,
Unfortunately, I do not know how you've created the animation, if you have all the elements created in Photoshop for example, and then as animated in After Effects searched, or whether you are one of the numerous stop-motion tools and paper have photographed images digitally scanned or searched. Also, I do not know what kind of editing program you have.
The original material, the "footage" in the best size and Resolutionvorliegen to have that of your hardware and software to handle, is a general recommendation that one hears again and again, and I do not question, though I often themselves have flouted. In order to flash Webfilme seems an appropriate choice for the final product, although it is synonymous here and better common format exists. For a conversion to Mpeg2 DVD format, it is totally inappropriate as cumbersome and with extreme loss of quality.
"MissesKennedy" wrote: Only: Where and how else should I take the image sequence composed of speed and control - s.wichtigsten - embed the sound. In flash I have the opportunity to sound files frame precisely on the time line involved, so that the "synchronization" klappt.
By flash I mean nothing. What would be useful in my opinion, is a cut-and an effect program. Your entire image material - the templates, with which you work should be in a large, preferably less compressed format (eg 576x7 68, then this is PAL with square pixels and Tiff for example) be. The timing do you do in in an editing program. Here you put the sound on synonymous.
Not least because your movie is very charming, and you perhaps times - with a little more care, especially in sound mixing - at a festival show, or even want to sell.

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Antwort von Markus K.:

Please note that the pixel aspect ratio is 1:1 and s.PC s.TV as written is different. If you s.PC a Picture with the size 787x576, this will have distorted s.TV 720x576.

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Hello Axel,

"Axel" wrote: Salut Diana,
Unfortunately, I do not know how you've created the animation, if you have all the elements created in Photoshop for example, and then as animated in After Effects searched, or whether you are one of the numerous stop-motion tools and paper have photographed images digitally scanned or searched. Also, I do not know what kind of editing program you have.


I have the drawings on paper and realized both synonymous backgrounds as the characters. While the background color already painted are scanned, the figures in Corel PhotoPaint first cleaned and then colored.

Then the figures "out" and copied to the background, every single movement in a row and thus each time a new scene created and stored. I save them in PNG format.
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The original material, the "footage" in the best size and Resolutionvorliegen to have that of your hardware and software to handle, is a general recommendation that one hears again and again, and I do not question, though I often themselves have flouted.


Yes. I Scan everything first in an AND 200dpi keep this material until synonymous times.

Quote: For a conversion to Mpeg2 DVD format, it is totally inappropriate as cumbersome and with extreme loss of quality.

I have a program that the SWF files to AVI and then convert one, that makes the AVI Mpeg2. Cumbersome, I know, but as I said, I know that at the moment no alternative. The video editor program I've tried, are very imprecise and allow enttâuschend and hardly a picture-by-Picture processing.

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By flash I mean nothing. What would be useful in my opinion, is a cut-and an effect program. Your entire image material - the templates, with which you work should be in a large, preferably less compressed format (eg 576x7 68, then this is PAL with square pixels and Tiff for example) be.


No problem in the Grundateien and this tif format. (how is it with the dpi resolution?) As I have said to me, but lacking the appropriate program for this Tifbilder film as synonymous to assemble and add the sound.

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Not least because your movie is very charming, and you perhaps times - with a little more care, especially in sound mixing - at a festival show, or even want to sell.


Thank you. Now exactly what do I have with the new Project before. The small movies (eg "bad karma") on MyVideo etc. were attempts at times to see what everything is.

The current project (with the bag Wolf) should be a longer project. Nichtzuletzt the people who work (speakers, musicians) have of course no Bock, the effort just for a Webfilmchen to do, but want a "real" product comes out of it.

I am so shy synonymous and not the slightest work, but Filmerei video and DVD and so I have a completely new field. I come from the traditional print comic field.

Thank you therefore for your patience and your advice.

@ Markus:
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Please note that the pixel aspect ratio is 1:1 and s.PC s.TV as written is different. If you s.PC a Picture with the size 787x576, this will have distorted s.TV 720x576.


Therefore, I have hopefully understood correctly, the computer files must be 576x768, so it is true? [/ quote]

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Antwort von Markus K.:

"MissesKennedy" wrote:
Therefore, I have hopefully understood correctly, the computer files must be 576x768, so it is true?


If the target size is 704x576 then you need s.PC work with 768x576. If the target size is 720x576 then you need s.PC work with 787x576.

For DVD formats are both acceptable, but 720x576 is common in general.

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Antwort von Axel:

"MissesKennedy" wrote: I have the drawings on paper and realized both synonymous backgrounds as the characters. While the background color already painted are scanned, the figures in Corel PhotoPaint first cleaned and then colored.

Then the figures "out" and copied to the background, every single movement in a row and thus each time a new scene created and stored. I save them in PNG format.


My absolute highest consideration. When your skills would be the Adobe CS3 suite (or, for your needs, with older versions of Photoshop, Premiere and After Effects) herausgeworfenes no money, because that could make your workflow much easier, your work without the charm of the hand lose what has been made.

"MissesKennedy" wrote: The video editor program I've tried, are very imprecise and allow enttâuschend and hardly a picture-by-Picture processing.

On the contrary, you could be with a good editing program even animate much of what you make now of hand. The existence of a cut program is the only frame accurate editing. No idea what kind of stuff because you've tried.

Proposed workflow: rough animated storyboard editing in the program animate the sound and get ready. This serves as a template for offline work with the levels in the program and effect should be even before the execution of all phases of movement done by hand. Certain movements could you even live in front of a camera recording to make them realistic and fluid movement in phases. But you must not. Resolutiondieses The draft could be very low level and as an orientation for example, in After Effects can be loaded.

Do but think of amateur advice in your plans, do not confuse ;-)

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

Whether Team America, Celebrity Deathmach or bag wolf is, I would asuf each case one of these times Stop Motion Watch programs.

/ http://www.dbsys.de/stopmotion.html

/ (E

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Thanks, this info is extremely helpful. And thanks for the link Eva. This program will I grad times in the demo a try. Whether one is synonymous finished frame can upload photos? mal sehen!

Now I am already a next step and smarter than before!

Diana

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Dear Forum members,

Now I stand before a new bit of clout. I do not really next.

So now I have me a DVD Burner and DVD player and I increased my animated synonymous with good progress.

I create the movie in Flash, convert the SWF to AVI and then read these clips in Ulead DVD factory. the result on the TV is absolutely outstanding, both in sound as synonymous in the Picture.

It could all be so nice if there was not a little problem there: For some reason "swallows" the DVD version every now and again a single word in the dialogues (which are already in the AVI files are installed).

At first I thought, ok, my source file is not in order, although both synonymous as AVI SWF source files these words are not vermurksen. I tinkered, revised, nothing helped.

Even worse: There are not always the same words "zerschluckt". Every time I made a new DVD, is another passage mutilated. Sometimes there are two, sometimes three, sometimes just one. Completely arbitrary.

Thus, no pattern and thus not synonymous to identify source of error.

What should I do? This problem is so angrundtief * * sch, especially when you consider that otherwise the result could be so super.

Has anyone experience with the DVD factory and an idea what could be the reason?

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Antwort von GMasterB:

"MissesKennedy" wrote: Dear Forum members,

Now I stand before a new bit of clout. [....] An idea what could be the reason?


DVD - data seems to be too high for the player. Take maximum 8Mbit;)

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

I have to say that it is synonymous error occurs when I watch the DVD s.PC. In addition to it once again to clarify, it is not that the DVD "eiert", ie playing a different mutilated passages, but each DVD has a different, but fixed mutilation patterns.

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Antwort von Axel:

"MissesKennedy" wrote: I have to say that it is synonymous error occurs when I watch the DVD s.PC. In addition to it once again to clarify, it is not that the DVD "eiert", ie playing a different mutilated passages, but each DVD has a different, but fixed mutilation patterns.
Ulead I know not, but actually there are only two possible reasons. The first has already been mentioned, the data rate is too high (but usually not interested in PCs).
The second would be the question of how you sound on the DVD is encrypted, you sound as PCM or AC3 (aksDolbyDigital), and with what frequency. Only these two formats (for the consumer area) to run reliably on all players, such as synonymous when MP3 (as only audio) can play.

For the Picture Mpeg2 8 Mbit / s, CBR, for the sound of 48 kHz PCM or AC3 48 kHz with 192 kbit / s for stereo.

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Hm, I am unfortunately not come next. Because of the 8 bits of fact, I did not know where I should adjust to the audios and I have the problem that I have this already in the Flash integration (with the possibility of frame accurate synchronization and multi-sounds, but exports to Flash maximum of 160kps.

But it is so funny or so, for example, why the AVI source files then all run smoothly. PowerDirector also had no problem with the sound (prodiziert but clearly inferior image quality) the problem seems to be based on the Ulead DVD Factory program limited to.

What should I do ...

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Antwort von HighDefinition:

A piece next top I have read that the images are scanned with 200 DPI, when I save a frame but it has only 72 DPI

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

Yes, this has its reasons to a kind of "quality stocks" is created, because the clips so a total of 3 times to be converted. I fear that they would be the beginning of s.in 72 DPI, the final result of data loss would be very lousy. And the picture I get with this method is very synonymous convincing.

Yet of course there could be a problem there, since the files (in particular, the AVIs are very large and of my lame Processor hardly can be handled. I have already considered whether it is just so that when rendering the box simply overwhelmed is addressed by the faltering of data errors are generated.

If, then it would in any case the planned upgrade to a powerful processor the solution. What, but if it is not the reason.

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Antwort von HighDefinition:

If you conclude the film on DVD will bring, you could possibly try it of the timeline to a DVD recorder (or CAM) to play, then see the same obs and how it works.

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Antwort von tinkoul:

That was of course nonsense now, about the shakes, (here is maybe what it is written on HDV) but may For a compromise to be found with which you can work well.

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Antwort von MissesKennedy:

In any case, thank you for your answers.

At the moment it looks as if what really with the Ulead was not ok. I did it with another video editor tries (AVS Video Editing) and there is nothing mutilated. Presumably, it is that Ulead itself already eats a lot of resources to a program in accordance aufzublasen and therefore the "power" is missing, the films to render correctly. For a better Prozessior the problem would probably not occur. AVS is a much leaner program, but synonymous very good and quite cheap.

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