Newsmeldung von slashCAM: Automavision: Computer as DoP of heidi - 17 Jan 2009 14:04:00 With about 2 years delayed Triers comedy "The boss of it all" but still a rental in Germany found. The plot is somewhere between The Office and Remington Steele located, and with plenty of alienation which Brechtscher. The really special s.dem film is the camera work - because as a DoP is a system called Automavision gecredited: Instead of a cameraman Trier has a computer which can be framed shots, and although randomly without image recognition, etc., on the contrary, it was even on 35mm rotated (and with a new Danish record s.Filmmaterialverbrauch up). He wanted either full control or no, says of Trier, also had the actors in this way no indication how they were positioned in the picture and could therefore not always "Of Page show their best."
But there was little control but of course. More specifically, the shooting started so that the scenes of Trier dissolved, so the basic camera position for a take-down has, which - on the basis of this first conventional camera orientation - a computer various parameters (Tilt / Pan, Focal, Aperture, horizontal and vertical position) within defined ranges of random changes. They were then apparently by hand or s.der Camera s.Dolly on which it was placed, set, for more accurate turning Setup can
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diesem ausführlichen ArtikelNun versteht sich of selbst, daß with Rohmaterial wie diesem kein unsichtbarerer Schnitt gemacht werden kann and so hagelt es beispielsweise Jump Cuts im Film. Da der Computer synonymous Anweisungen für die Tonpegelung and die Belichtung gab, and in der Postpro bis auf einen einfachen Schnitt nichts s.Material verändert wurde, sind da zT synonymous sehr deutliche Übergänge zu hören bzw zu sehen. Auch in Sachen Blickführung ist der Zuschauer auf sich gestellt, wird doch im Normalfall durch die bewußte Kadrierung der Blick des Betrachters zu den "wichtigen" Bildteilen geleitet -- hier Fehlanzeige.
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Antwort von camworks:
what a nonsense. but it is so synonymous "artist" who shit in their cans and fill them issued.
Antwort von Marco:
Even so this has more spirit than this brainwave of of Trier ...
Marco
Antwort von Bertholt4:
Of Lars Trier is just great, he also shows how unimportant part of the technique is when idea and acting right!
I hate it when s.Set any camera or lighting all types, since they did not think anything and then they build their image with their average, average, boring light - there is of Trier look really fresh. I am glad that such people are
Of course there are some movies synonymous, where a real idea behind the form of Ellen (eg Antonioni or Tarkowsky), but most unfortunately not.
Antwort von Axel:
After all, the individual takes more after use (criteria? The actors are all in the frame?) Sorted, then here is another ordering s.Werk spirit.
Brechtian alienation? I have times a German-held unit. This involves the audience in the staging hineinzuziehen, but a distance up to allow his discernment is not compromised. As an alternative to completely abgeschmackten Hollywood Scheme F provides interesting. Something theatricality, all Trier movies.
How would it times with a cut-Shuffle? The viewer should even see where the plot at the front and rear, because the computer at random scenes durcheinandermischt. Determines exhausting, but worth a try.
Antwort von camworks:
'm against it. ;-)
but no preference for what is idiocy makes sure there is someone on the world, the innovative and great finds.
Antwort von blip:
How would it times with a cut-Shuffle? The viewer should even see where the plot at the front and rear, because the computer at random scenes durcheinandermischt. Determines exhausting, but worth a try.
Have they actually tried synonymous, but there was no mathematical formula, which a reasonably useful version would have been cut - but therefore with Cutter :-)
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Simplicity is the idea of waste.
Antwort von DWUA:
At least for voyeurs with cameras would be interesting Nick function
on automatic vacuum cleaners mounted between the shoes
at the Vienna Hofball polish. Better performance cockroaches.
;)
The Lars Trier Holbaek - Project is half-hearted.
Not fish nor fowl;
half machine half human, not half-nothing whole.
(Fits on his Bayreuth "Ring Appearance" 04/06).
It may be that this is a belated reappraisal of one of his phobias
in childhood (control constraint) is.
Consolation for all carrier concerns:
Art? Pea bang, like so many other synonymous ...
Bargain hunters? Remains recovery of remaining 35-kilometer mm possible ...
Critical shape? A New Movement? No, it is NOT s.Ismn ...
;))
Antwort von jogol:
Has anyone here actually seen the movie, or are all remote?
Antwort von camworks:
to ask: what distinguishes the film - after we have received says that the whole set is more random - of one of the usual-youtube amateur videos a la "grup Tekkan"? there is more synonymous everything from randomly determines whether intentionally or unintentionally, plays no role in the outcome. as they say: "it is important what rauskommt back!"
Antwort von jogol:
to ask: what distinguishes the film - after we have received says that the whole set is more random - of one of the usual-youtube amateur videos a la "grup Tekkan"?
In order to be able to assess, you should have seen the film.
Antwort von DWUA:
@ Jogol
The contribution of heidi of Slashcam is about
a method of camera work. "Automavision".
If you have the movie, we are all very happy
to you in order to meet Nahdiagnosen.
;))
Antwort von camworks:
In order to be able to assess, you should have seen the film.
I have my hand on a glowing hot plate, in order to recognize that to me is hurt.
and this is not innovative, it has started to make movies - about 100 years ago. was only in a setting durchgedreht and as the next step was synonymous only aneinandergeklebt the settings. Eisenstein and consorts since one tries, sections and connections to make it invisible as possible, so that the viewers the story of dedicated and non-disruptive cut-and-building and tonsprüngen is distracted.
Antwort von Axel:
The problem with this shooting is that they build artificial chicanes to be alienating the audience during the film, as "we" love him artificial slime generated in which we can wallow. At the screening of Dancer in the Dark, there were complaints of nausea over (because of the Wackelei) up to the threat of personal injury claims for everything. Remember we do not make that a viewer of the 30's, he would have been a lot today because of the "bold" style application of the funds of the crowd as "awesome" and cult movies to see, would have been similarly baffled. Any Language evolves through next rule breaks, and then they are "ahead of its time." An end in itself? Partly, perhaps. At least the intellectual gimmick rather than any expression of an attitude, let alone a sensation.
Antwort von jogol:
@ Jogol
The contribution of heidi of Slashcam is about
a method of camera work. "Automavision".
Camworks writes:
what a nonsense. but it is so synonymous "artist" who shit in their cans and fill them issued.
Well then ...
Antwort von DWUA:
Axel,
with "... any expression of an attitude" ... we are already moving in OT.
Beautiful! Even more OT here:
For example:
www.ubu.com / film / kirk.html
;))
ps
Sorry, heidi ...
Antwort von camworks:
Camworks writes:
what a nonsense. but it is so synonymous "artist" who shit in their cans and fill them exhibit.
Well then ...
do you not? then read this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCnstlerschei%C3%9Fe
Antwort von jogol:
do you not?
However, credible ich.Mir is only the comparison to the fat Keks.Beuys objects, the curators in museums sweat, Stockhausen fired church organs with vacuum cleaner motors, Cage writes pieces only from the rest of the untranslatable "Finnegans Wake" by James Joyce is in umpteen languages übersetzt.Unabhängig of whether it all to me like it or not, I think the art limits and beyond, so that they do not degenerate to the decorative arts and crafts.
Antwort von DWUA:
Your round is entitled.
(From your point of view rotation axis).
;)
Antwort von camworks:
I actually had a long text, but notebook keyboards apparently have a strange life. :-(
because I have no lust, all this again to formulate, I will confine myself to one sentence: "so everybody has his opinion."
