| Canon HF100 or HV30 (cutting and application-related questions)
Question of smfoo:
Mai 2009
Hello Together!
I have here in the forum about the two times Canons made clever.
However, I can not decide.
I need them mainly for concert recordings from the FOH position.
Since I'm on stage, I even out the camera and let them run. Until now I have done with my SonyDCR46E.
However, the results are not really satisfactory.
Since the light is often not recorded on film which is the reason I tend to the good Lowlight properties tend to HF100.
Since I do not have quad system, but a 24 "Intel iMac with 2.6 GHz and 4GB of Ram is with the AVCHD format a little worried. The iMac, I will still retain at least a year. A new calculator smit not come into question.
What would you recommend. Lowlight behavior makes a huge difference?
The drive sounds of the HV30 does not annoy me, the sound comes from other sources.
Editing software is Final Cut Express.
Regards,
Stephan
Reply Axel:
FCE (but all of Apple's own programs) only supports AVCHD Intermediate codec, HDV, however, synonymous. There is thus no difference, is that if you want the camera to a recording "simply run" it, you have a giant files with hard drive will get clogged. Even a MacPro schüfe you no native AVCHD support, synonymous Adobe CS4 on Mac does not really (see the numerous threads jerky preview). Only you could FCS in this case of HDV relief, with 13 GB / hour.
Whether it is worthwhile, because of an AVCHD Consumer Windows program on your Mac to install, you must decide for itself. You lose s.Integration and many good features, and the quality of the final product is hardly better. Whether your calculator it could represent redundant? Probably not. Have an iMac synonymous with your specs, but it is probably not the material itself to be able to play, it will probably work. Intersection means always synonymous with more than one lane.
Reply smfoo:
That is ever a good info. Unfortunately, until now had only worked with SD material.
Can you synonymous to what the score Lowlight say?
Regards,
Stephan
Reply B.DeKid:
LowLight
Since there is no apparent difference to see, under the conditions. (Probably, not even in terms of quality compared to the SD Cam since you now already uses.)
HF100 is quickly dubbed un bissel NEN has more resolution (format)
HV30 has 1zu1 dub
hmm,
take the HV30 because you have more tapes for the purpose of long-term archiving, we can in 5 years with a new Calculator synonymous mal ne Cut version.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: adjusting the camera for filming on ne given Aperture and shutter speed (using the standard stage lighting as a reference) you can focus on car --- so you should get the best results.
Reply Bruno Peter:
HF100 is quickly dubbed un bissel NEN has more resolution (format)
More pixels resolution but not more!
Reply smfoo:
Adjusting the camera to film on ne given Aperture and Shutter Speed (; use the standard stage lighting as a reference) you can focus on car --- so you should get the best results.
That is where the settings of my old camera which had always done anyway.
But the auto, I have always synonymous off. Have the experience, especially when using strobe light or rapid movements in the Autofocus Lens is no longer the Picture mitkommt and partially for several seconds is blurred.
Phew that's quite difficult.
Reply B.DeKid:
I thought the HF spin aka HD resolution format and the only HDV HV?
......
Yes light FX can quickly become the problems are
But is synonymous to view Winckel and the focus point - synonymous stages deep, etc. - but if you say the manual was ok for you, then does that so often on concerts I have not filmed or photographed.
But I maintain, HV30 - just because you're not fast s.die data need to drive do not mind noise, and you almost rütelfreie shots of a quiet position out of them.
The best you throw a coin.
For me this is just a yes You synonymous RF Winrar files in a pack and via Streamer Softwear and your old Cam Mini DV
Save it.
;-)
If in any case both Super cameras.
Alla
MfG
B. DeKid
Reply smfoo:
The coin with the sounds good.
One question I have.
Does the HF100 a 720p mode?
The manual is unfortunately nothing about this and here in the camcorder mode, this comparison is only with the U.S. model.
Reply beiti:
Does the HF100 a 720p mode?
The manual is unfortunately nothing about this and here in the camcorder mode, this comparison is only with the U.S. model. The NTSC model has no 720p mode. If an error in the Slashcam table.
Both models can be 1920x1080 and 1440x1080, and although the PAL model in 50i and 25p and the NTSC model in 60i, 30p and 24p.
Reply shipoffools:
...
Both models can be 1920x1080 and 1440x1080, and although the PAL model in 50i and 25p and the NTSC model in 60i, 30p and 24p.
This information is unfortunately wrong.
The HV30 records in HDV 1080 50i to (synonymous in HDV25 mode), and HDV is a maximum 1440 x 1080 pixels. 1920 x 1080 with the HV30 is only possible as a Still Image.
Full HD video, that is 1920 x 1080 pixels, there's only with AVCHD recording, the HF100 as it is "dominated".
Greeting
shipoffools
Reply Axel:
... and when you now have all the buzzword as FullHD sets in goose feet, we come closer to the cause. 1920 pixels are displayed on the tape described. That it 1920 pixels from the world before the lens correspond, has already been refuted many times. For Schön letters from the elementary school, there's at Consumercams than the correlation computing Schön.
Reply beiti:
This information is unfortunately wrong. Since you've apparently misunderstood me. With both models, I thought the PAL and NTSC Model Supermodel of the HF100. The HV30 was no question.
Reply shipoffools:
This information is unfortunately wrong. Since you've apparently misunderstood me. With both models, I thought the PAL and NTSC Model Supermodel of the HF100. The HV30 was no question.
In fact ... sorry. That was really a misunderstanding on my part.
Ash on my head!
Had maybe everything will be read.
To Axel:
... and I really do not want the discussion on tausendneunhundertundeinundzwanzigste HDV or the Mickey Mouse Standard "Full HD" (;... in quotes!) ignite. Mir has no preference whether synonymous since 1920 x 1080 pixels on the tape to land or not. I am satisfied with two camcorders, me and rich 1440 x 1080 pixels thick ...
Greeting
shipoffools
Reply smfoo:
All clear.
One question I have: In Slashcam test that is not the exposure can be set manually. In the manual are a few, however, a few values for manual choice. I confuse what, or is in the test Slashcam an error?
Regards,
Stephan
Reply shipoffools:
Both the HF100 as synonymous with the HV30 can be using the joystick, exposure (BEL.) manual settings.
Reply rudi:
Short question
I did both tests on Cams read, and where is there that the exposure can not adjust?
Reply Bruno Peter:
In nirvana, perhaps?
Reply smfoo:
Apperture control: auto stands in the test.
The HV30 is auto, manual, AE shift.
Regards,
Stephan
Reply rudi:
Oh, you mean in the database.
Our mistake is corrected. Thanks for the hint.
Rudi
Reply smfoo:
The correctness because, should the then synonymous with the HF10 changed.
Regards,
Stephan
Reply rudi:
is corrected, thank you Stephan.
Rudi
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