Infoseite // DV Studio inferior to the tape - alternatives?



Frage von -Der Fu-:


Hello dear Slashcam community!

Before you are complaining about mitlerweile I have several hours of research behind me, but I am still clueless:

- I take of a new consumer DV camera via FireWire to
- Now everyone knows that MiniDv offers fairly poor quality but ....
- After recording in Premiere, I note that the Picture STILL has got worse, so blurred in the first place

Question:
- Why the picture is worse when I am in any case already in the native () DV codec recording? A different codec can be set, unfortunately, not at all, it seems increasingly DV-PAL.

I compared the original and s.Television Absorbed, maybe I'm too "fine", but the DV-PAL is much cheesier than I ever would have expected!

Can anyone tell me what else can you do to? I want to use Firewire, but a different codec s.liebsten. Valves does this not .... unfortunately.

About your help I would be grateful
Fu

PS
Slashcam.de is really great!

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Antwort von Kast&Oroff:

Quote: - Now everyone knows that MiniDv offers pretty bad quality ....

Aha!

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Antwort von Wiro:

"The Fu" wrote: - Now everyone knows that MiniDv offers fairly poor quality but ....
Nööö that not everyone knows.
Eg, I do not yet know for years producing movies and DV-PAL is in fact did not noticed before. I have tomatoes on my eyes? Do I need to urgently Fielmann? ;-)))

Back to the matter:
if you capturst PAL DV into a DV PAL project is done with the data at all. They are copied 1:1 to the hard drive.
Gruss Wiro

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Antwort von Gast1:

"The Fu" wrote: - After recording in Premiere, I note that the Picture STILL has got worse, so blurred in the first place

The wily premiere user knows that you can change the playback quality of the monitor.

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

"The Fu" wrote: Hello dear Slashcam community!

Before you are complaining about mitlerweile I have several hours of research behind me, but I am still clueless:


The feeling I have synonymous.

"The Fu" wrote:
- Now everyone knows that MiniDv offers fairly poor quality but ....

As you probably bring mixed up something. HERE, everyone knows that each provides to miniDV camera very good to sensational quality. Could it be that you may already have incorrectly recorded your movies?
- Which camera du film?
- Which host automatics have turned on or off?
- Have you considered your material right of the camera to the TV? As the quality is there?
- What software do you captures the film?
- You might accidentally be scaling as the format?
- Have you received an NTSC and PAL Project created?
- Etc. etc. etc. .....
You will now probably have more hours of capture.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

It will have something to do with the visual quality. Perhaps in your editing program, the Picture interpolated to donate yet more unrest, since it does not interpolate the fringe fields-see. Thus, the fresh videographer would STILL MORE overwhelmed, as with blur.

On the other hand, it may be synonymous, that you incorrectly associate, with the medium. I can not judge because I do not know what you've recorded. But video is a relatively coarse medium. Then you should deal with Total shots sparingly and bring more events shown the motive.

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Antwort von Markus:

"The Fu" wrote: - After recording in Premiere, I note that the Picture STILL has got worse, so blurred in the first place
"Even worse" means to me that the picture has not been synonymous in the original very well.

Could it be that since it was set up a camcorder for 250 ¬? Or was the automatic transmission with a critical recording situation, have been necessary for manual intervention would be overwhelmed? Or has someone again tried to film with a camcorder for less than ¬ 2,500 by candlelight?

Whether we will ever receive this information? ;-)

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Antwort von -Der Fu-:

Hi,

I'm sorry that some feel came at the beginning of the tie.

For me it was just important to know that FireWire transfer at no extra compression is taking place, but the data will be included 1:1. It looked to me that is not so out ....

Actually I have everything set up correctly in Premiere, but the tip that you can adjust the quality in the "Master viewer" was new to me.
In fact, that was the tip I needed! Now my picture looks at least as bad as on the tape ;-) And yes, I have a billgen DV recorder.
Otherwise, the requests, thanks, but my project, Recording and wiring is as it should be so inexperienced, so I'm quite not be synonymous, as far as DV over FireWire.

And s.The "snapped", which have responded to me at first:
It is clear that it is possible to record on MiniDV very good pictures if you have a good chip and a good lens. Logical.
But I had a part of Aldi, which can only PAL.
Otherwise MiniDV is really not an optimal Specihermedium, because it has a 4:1:1 subsampling. In 75% of the color information is erased in the storage and re-add interpolation. Sogesehen so it's much worse than DVCPro50, DigiBeta tapes or RGB. --- Or have I got this wrong?

Thanks for the answers here and machts well
Fu

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Antwort von Markus:

"The Fu" wrote: ... because it has a 4:1:1 subsampling.
... for NTSC. PAL is the Color 4:2:0-compressed. * * Klugscheißer ;-)

"The Fu" wrote: In 75% of the color information is erased in the storage and re-add interpolation. Sogesehen so it's much worse than DVCPro50, DigiBeta tapes or RGB. --- Or have I got this wrong?
No, you do not see the wrong. But you yourself write that you have a cheap MiniDV camcorder. Tests against time, a MiniDV camcorder, the upper upscale, probably from the professional sector. I tell you: a world of difference!

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Antwort von -Der Fu-:

Yes, because you're right. PAL is a bit different.

Sure looks that the images with a professional DV camera top, but sophisticated color correction, chroma keying, etc., is synonymous bad then I think, because the necessary Farbinfo missing and one has to contend with artifacts.

Well, we leave it with the DV-quality discussion. I'm happy you're there - all is well that ends well ;-)

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