Frage von bgk:
Hi Everybody,
after I have quite a few years here in this forum reading, I now have a burning question s.die experts:
I would like to see a little with the best possible picture quality organize (sort of as a stealth recorder, as a travel device and as a backup to "potent" equipment). The recordings are then cut on DVD and will be banned.
After I detail on the new HD format have informed (thanks s.alle that are high-quality input to deliver!), Would in that direction anyway only HDV into question. And after the current, only the tiny HC9 has a LANC port, but this remains as the only team left in this (incredible but true ...).
HDV, I am not entirely convinced, because it is questionable how long it is (affordable) players that will (I believe the tapes are useful archiving option, but if it is in 2 years no longer exists ... devices) and the Long-GOP synonymous in my opinion the biggest advantage of the tape recording clearly diminishes (drop-outs).
The question now is whether for the above purpose, instead of not HC9s an older 3-Chipper (eg MX500 or the like) and also better suited to have would be cheaper.
My requirements are:
- Small (XM2 is too big for me)
- OIS
- LANC
- (Possible) low-light-fit (I know, the little difficult ...)
- Manual control (ideally focus ring, etc.)
- DV-in
After I sometimes synonymous with "large" device turn, I am really undecided and a little hope that you give me a little help you can give.
Besten Dank dafür ever in advance and nice greetings,
BGK
Antwort von joerg-emil:
Hello BGK,
until the middle of last year, I only with DV cameras worked, because I thought synonymous, the DVD remains synonymous for the next few years as the final product and why should I switch to HDV.
Well, after I get my first experience with an HDV camera, so I see it quite differently.
First, there is no DV Camera with real 16:09 ... and as you can in the future no longer drumrum.
On the other hand, has a film in HDV recorded in the post very large advantages. So you can, for example, the picture up to 1 / 4 of the entire image reduced without at the DVD playback to cause loss of resolution. Also Zoomfahrten or pans are in a static ansich recording possible.
I can only guess, therefore, relies on HDV! For a model, I can not advise you, as I with the small HDV camcorders do not have experience.
Gruß Jörg-Emil
Antwort von Daigoro:
The question now is whether for the above purpose, instead of not HC9s an older 3-Chipper (eg MX500 or the like) and also better suited to have would be cheaper.
Cheaper yes maximum use of ebay - because you never know what you get and the guarantee is synonymous short / completely gone.
The new price of the NV-GS500 is yes, unfortunately, at the height of the HDV cameras.
My old MVX25 had already ruled 'genuine' anamorphic 16:9 - that in the later, cheaper cameras wegreduziert was true that it was not wrong.
I would HC9 take as long as they do there (if the budget is not the main reason is not used to MiniDV). Have the HC5 and never regretted the purchase .*
With the restore I do not worry - there are always companies, to an old format, you can convert if you do not have the equipment. With the proliferation of MiniDV / HDV something should be possible for a long time and yes you can get extra synonymous backup (what with the cards and boxes must be synonymous since there is no more backup volumes).
* the only thing that bothers me is the man synonymous with SD is forced to 16:9. Although many possessions now in the flat Glotze acquaintances, but when taking pictures for Web's (not youtube, we have NEN own video server to download) brings me the most garnix and I have 'bigger' picture images with unnecessary parts in the purchase or muehsamm manual cropping (that sounds straightforward when the few times for 5 minutes' Roh'Film makes, but we have for each event as 5-10 hours and the raw material to edit so that the picture is consistent takes time).
Antwort von bgk:
Thank you ever for your support.
As far as I'm currently really fast buying a toy HDV capacity, is ultimately the following reasoning:
The failure of security through the Intra-frame coding, as well as the long-term archiving were (and still are) in my opinion, always a valid reason for recording on DV tape.
Exactly these two components are in my opinion, but HDV away:
Dropouts are due to the GOP structure of the outset serious consequences and are synonymous with the time under ideal storage conditions worse.
After it synonymous no opportunity there, the cameras through the use of capture-Schl * mpen to spare, the devices are expected to be synonymous in significantly faster abgenudelt and once (in my view, already next year) the manufacturer in the segment below 2,000 euros the HDVs set is the absence of players synonymous away the long-term archiving.
Of course, it is synonymous in the future, companies that are on every conceivable format you can play, but such services have already Prices, even on the pharmacist seeehr would be pleased ... :-) And I do not think that this will change in the future ... : ->
If So anyway, I now backup to HDD, etc. must consider (and then obviously have to be redundant, etc.) to the images synonymous over tomorrow to be able to evaluate, then I can box the band synonymous same save.
After AVCHD on the other the NLE complicated, that are synonymous based devices currently have a no-go (the winning time of such devices compared with the capture of tape is reached, it's to convert into schnitttaugliche Intermediates drauf - makes sense?) .
Ultimately the question remains whether the manufacturer in the near future but perhaps not usable equipment from the shock of a GY-HM100 on the market and with this perhaps the currently open niche between 1,000 and 2,500 euros Close? And when will they? ;-)
Until that happens, I'm just in search of a good quality baby of the above requirements and because the current model hardly pallets such devices are to be found (Daigoro said of the GS500 is really one of the exceptions, and compared to the HC9 mE expensive), I just used the synonymous market (with all its adversity) into consideration.
Did not someone is a source for brand new equipment for older models? ;-)
Regards,
BGK
Antwort von Daigoro:
Exactly these two components are in my opinion, but HDV away:
Dropouts are due to the GOP structure of the outset serious consequences and are synonymous with the time under ideal storage conditions worse.
The data loss caused by dropouts and costs about playing at the service providers are peanuts compared to his plate crash.
If you do not want to lose any data, you pay for part ne 'forensic' counterclaim was 4-digit manufacturing.
With tape and record it's twice the gemoppelt and keeps better. To capturn could always look on Ebay, what it s.Kameras with Display / Optic damage but good drive there.
MPG2 without tape while holding the JVC models - HD30, HD40 or so - would be so very well be synonymous.
Antwort von bgk:
The data loss caused by dropouts and costs about playing at the service providers are peanuts compared to his plate crash. That's right. As an IT-affinity human, I am (fortunately never themselves - thankfully redundancy) is not only one with "sudden" loss of data (see the current synonymous
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