Infoseite // DVX100 mixer output with micro inputs connect - how?



Frage von Alla Werr:


Hello,
We will soon take up a demo video for a music band, where the music should be played live together in a mixer and recorded on the inputs of my micro-camera (of course, for video capture synchronously, ie) no dubbing. The DVX has an external micro inputs 2 XLR connectors (in addition to the internal wired built-in stereo microphone, which does not even come into consideration here).

The DVX manual that tells me the following:

[list] The existing RCA jacks (Line-in audio L / R) can not be used as an audio input in my favor. This is only in VCR mode (ie when a video signal synonymous s.der AV-Buche/gelb or S-video jack is supplied), or in the dubbing, but not in a live image capture. [/ List: u: e4adf7784a] [list] The external XLR microphone jacks INPUT1 and INPUT2 can take place in micro-synonymous in the line level will be operated for audio recordings (eg INPUT1 for CHANNEL1/links, INPUT2) for CHANNEL2/rechts. [/ list: u: e4adf7784a]
However, I am unsure how one line of output (either Jack or RCA), XLR input on a mixer to come, especially regarding the choice of the correct cable:
[list] Taking as microphone cable (XLR Male to XLR-female, I had the list) each with an XLR Male-RCA Female Adapter s.dem one end [/ u: e4adf7784a] [list], or rather a good RCA cable (Male-Male) with an XLR-Male RCA jack adapter on the other page? [/ list: u: e4adf7784a] [list] Or does it prefers s.Mixer-output jack, (I white, which are unbalanced) both? [/ list: u: e4adf7784a] [list] how would this be wired? The XLR inputs s.der DVX're symmetrically designed, how to tolerate with an asymmetric input? [/ List: u: e4adf7784a]
Who can help me out of the jungle or question itself has had a similar problem?

Thank you + Greeting
Harry

PS.: For the opposite case (XLR to RCA) can be found quickly with Google (a solution because even if I had somewhere a Adapter): XLR pins 1 and 3 (Shield and Cons-phase) to the RCA shield XLR -- Pin 2 (Pros-phase) to the RCA signal pin. But is the synonymous vice versa? I myself might scrap the microphone input with something?

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

Cable with XLR / Jack, there are "ready" to buy, "adapter" is always a bad alternative.
Unsymmetrical to symmetrical is not a problem, but the advantage ese symmetrical signal (less susceptibility to interference from Störgräusche on long signal paths) are of course gone.
However, I would make me worry about the quality of your mixer, if it has not symmetrical XLR Line Output ...
This does not necessarily sound like a high-quality desk ... could be surprisingly loud noise ...

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

You do:
1. The two mixer-outs via balanced XLR cables s.The Input 1 (link canal) and connect input 2 (right channel).
2. Input 1 and Input 2 to "Line make".
3. Loudest sound to be expected using the equalizer s.der Camera auspegeln so that more than 1 red trabeculae appear on the LCD.
4. Shooting and look forward s.tollen sound!

Once again always the same (boring) question: Why do not you have it easy once tried?! - SOOO many different connections and switch positions s.der Cam gibts ja echt nicht! The findings derived on himself and you learn to deal with the equipment, not with issues, questions, questions in the online forum! - Well, MY opinion ...

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Antwort von Alla Werr:

"Debonnaire" wrote: You do:
1. The two mixer-outs via balanced XLR cables s.The Input 1 (link canal) and connect input 2 (right channel).
2. Input 1 and Input 2 to "Line make".
3. Loudest sound to be expected using the equalizer s.der Camera auspegeln so that more than 1 red trabeculae appear on the LCD.
4. Shooting and look forward s.tollen sound!

Once again always the same (boring) question: Why do not you have it easy once tried?! - SOOO many different connections and switch positions s.der Cam gibts ja echt nicht! The findings derived on himself and you learn to deal with the equipment, not with issues, questions, questions in the online forum! - Well, MY opinion ...


I'm in some contexts what to try - may end up that one needs to grow a new equipment. I do not mean, play around s.den camera settings - that the switch positions must be the way of you indicated that I was clearly synonymous, as you can see s.meinem start posting, and the level I would create synonymous nor stop (but assuming just The mixer has a balanced XLR output to line level ...). But that's all I know. I have the tape (and the mixer) not previously taken. Mir's main concern was to see if it can go wrong technically (with cable tinkering), if for example, two pins electrically aggregates.
Interestingly, I've found to this problem is not a single forum entry (after hours of search and synonymous here in dvxusers) because I thought, one can ask. From the user manual in any case it is not apparent, as is wired an XLR input, which receives a signal to line level of an asymmetric outcome.

Hmm, that one may ask in a forum like this, no more questions, is new to me. Stupid questions have also been seen here.
Craft and try next time beautiful s.Deiner Cam ...

Greeting
Harry

PS. I am still on so-called synonymous encountered DI boxes. If the desk has only asymmetric outputs, so I probably would take a passive box!? However, the signal should not be dampened while (line should remain Line).

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Antwort von Alla Werr:

"Login_vergessen" wrote: Cable with XLR / Jack, there are "ready" to buy, "adapter" is always a bad alternative.
Unsymmetrical to symmetrical is not a problem, but the advantage ese symmetrical signal (less susceptibility to interference from Störgräusche on long signal paths) are of course gone.
However, I would make me worry about the quality of your mixer, if it has not symmetrical XLR Line Output ...
This does not necessarily sound like a high-quality desk ... could be surprisingly loud noise ...

OK, sure, those cables, I have seen synonymous, but only "vice versa" (how do I connect an XLR jack input Microsystems s.einen asymmetrical). And my question was whether it goes the other way synonymous. Enough because that's just a cable? (In other forums I have read of what is now a passive DI box, which is interposed and an implementation of asymmetrically to make symmetrical. Are advantages that we symmetrized the signal can now pass a relatively fail-over long cables that can not be easily overridden and that the DI yet to electrically separate the masses and thus prevents hum).

Greeting
Harry

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

So the cable is available in two versions, with the option of you mentioned can be seen more often, that's true.
A passive DI box switching between them is an option if it otherwise due to a "long line" to prevent disturbances.
My urgent recommendation is a matter of principle: No experiments! When I'm not sure if the equipment does not have "professional" Austatattungsmerkmale (in your case, a symmetrical line-output capabilities), it will advance to perform a visit and check if the result is ok.
Somewhere "strike" and produce garbage behind due to technical imperfections, falls back on you, never on the mixer. Would I consider myself well ...
If you are the mixer not previously met "you, I would change that!

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Antwort von hofnarr:

boxes instead of di-I would rather agree to use like this:

http://www.monacor.de/typo3/index.php?id=84&L=0&artid=4063&spr=DE&typ=full

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Antwort von srone:

@ Jester of her approach is certainly the better technical solution, but in this price class per channel, an electronic di-box sound far inferior to, say for the money there is no reasonable symmetry exchanger (formers).

lg

SRON

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Antwort von hofnarr:

Who wants to have high-quality transmission, have to resort synonymous reflect deep into the bag. adversity than a friend in need for grinding and buzzing, the others I would certainly agree with miss anymore, and china formers on the installed I can not complain really synonymous ;-)

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