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Question of simonwidjaja:
Mai 2008
Hello.
I just consider me the SonyZ7 to buy. This is one of the few prosumer cameras, where you can change the lens. Blöd asked: What exactly, I have another of Lens? (Apart of telephoto or wide angle) ...
Can I use a different lens with depth of field is already achieved, or do I need as yet to such a 35mm adapter? If yes, what is there, what really makes sense and is affordable (no DIY instructions;)
Thanks and greetings from Cologne,
Simon
Reply ef.multimedia:
You should look in my opinion, just buy a simple camera. The Z7 is a semi professional camera.
Another Lens brings you first and foremost nothing, except it has more telephoto. The depth and blurring is covered with the image converter.
Reply schlaflos011:
What is a simpler camera?
The XH-A1?
Reply ef.multimedia:
I do not know how far you have with the topic Camera dealt searched, but I recommend you have a Canon HV30. In other words: How much money you have available?
Reply Bernd E.:
... otherwise Lens brings you first and foremost nothing, except it has more tele ...
Or more Wide Angle Or a larger total zoom range or a higher intensity or a shorter or Focus ... It is important, however, depending on the intended use to determine what you really need: A Z7 only because of the optics Exchangable to purchase this opportunity and do not need, would be a shame about Money.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply simonwidjaja:
Thanks in advance.
Well, I would myself as a semi-professional grade, so this fits in quite some;)
No seriously: I'm through extensive learning-by-doing to the whole issue has come, but I'm not a total beginners. The Canon HV30 is definitely not in question. For my taste much too small to really be able to operate manual. The Canon XH-A1 is indeed an alternative, which I consider. This confuses me, however, this 25F (instead of 25p). The Z7 is irritating me, partly because of the Compact Flash support and synonymous else makes a really good impression.
Currently I have a Panasonic AG-DVX100. Since I shoot a lot of interviews, where I spent 2 prospects need, I would like to have one, which is a new generation after the AG-DVX100 is (ie, HDV). So with the "old" harmonizes DVX100 and still be considered a single camera for studio recordings or other projects in a professional manner HDV makes a good picture ...
What would you advise? So far for Choice:
- Canon XH-1
- Panasonic HVX200 "Big Betty"
- SonyZ7 (or Z1)
To the question again: Is So now if I understood correctly, that I in any case a 35mm adapter (eg, P + S Technik) need? Do you know of alternatives and house prices, what we should invest?
Thanks again ...
Simon
Reply simonwidjaja:
... otherwise Lens brings you first and foremost nothing, except it has more tele ... Or more Wide Angle Or a larger total zoom range or a higher intensity or a shorter or Focus ... It is important, however, depending on the intended use to determine what you really need: A Z7 only because of the optics Exchangable to purchase this opportunity and do not need, would be a shame about Money. Gruß Bernd E.
That I think is synonymous. Namely, the price is already not exactly a bargain. That's why I only wanted to know if you perhaps already so sexy depth how. Thus, I have not really addressed, it always seems with significant additional costs associated ...
Reply WoWu:
And with the interchangeable lens is synonymous as a matter ... that you have only once found it's match ....
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
That's why I only wanted to know if you perhaps already so sexy depth of field-how
Whether it is a sexy Sharp act depends on the object.
In any case you can with the Z7 but synonymous a slight depth of reach, because that's probably what you mean. Depth itself is in almost all the cameras no problem.
And with the interchangeable lens is synonymous as a matter ... that you have only once found it's match ....
1 / 3 "HD Lenses have been around for some. The cost much but synonymous, at least more than the camera itself
Greeting
KDS
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
1 / 3 "HD Lenses have been around for some.
.... just not the "Camera Electronics" on the shutter contacts over.
A couple of 1 / 3 "Lenses are, in fact, but none fit.
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
but none fits
Really not?
I thought the 1 / 3 "connector is standardized and we could all 1 / 3" Lenses used. For the connection, the Z7 yes a jack s.der Page. The one sees not, however, if the Zeiss lens is mounted. Some functions such as autofocus function obviously will not.
Greeting
KDS
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
That's true, which I had overlooked, because you have absolutely right.
As for me, however, disturbs s.meisten s.dem part is that the sensors are again only 1440 made and then if you believe some tests and the images look like of the EX1, it suggests quite strongly on sharpening edges out of superlatives.
Reply High_Tension:
Thanks in advance.
What would you advise? So far for Choice:
- Canon XH-1
- Panasonic HVX200 "Big Betty"
- SonyZ7 (or Z1)
In my experience, definitely the XH-A1. What depth of field is concerned are you so very much. This is USSD 20x zoom. The next you're in the tele, the lower the depth of field. If you then still enough light to make the ND filter reinmachst and the aperture wide open, you can with the Canon almost (!) Film the same shots. In addition, you have the opportunity to see the colors all the way to set your taste, they say the Panasonic align.
If you're totally wicked you load the preset of fxsupport.de down and produce far better images than with the Panasonic.
The HVX200 has me convinced bild technically zero. In addition, you can only HD capture cards on the PS2 arsch expensive and no real opportunity to offer archiving.
For the Z1, I can say nothing.
Bzgl. Z7, I am of the same opinion as my predecessor: interchangeable lenses bring only what, when you get this opportunity really synonymous. If you ne reduced depth rather I want würd NEN 35mm adapter (eg Letus35) s.die XH-A1 clap.
Btw, you can flash the recorder Z7 allegedly without any problems s.die Canon grow. That, however, I have not tried myself.
Regards, Max
Reply WoWu:
@ Max
The flash recorder with the Canon s.die is interesting.
Do you have more accurate information?
Thanks ..
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
Btw, you can flash the recorder Z7 allegedly without any problems s.die Canon grow.
CULTIVATION certainly not, but as an external recording device.
@ Wolfgang
the pictures look like the of the EX1, it suggests quite strongly on sharpening edges out of superlatives
This statement would mean that the EX1 aufgesteilte pictures shows. Are the pictures of the EX1 but clean and fine, then there are the pictures of the Z7 after your statement synonymous ("... look like of the EX1 ...").
Extensive testing, I could not yet make of Kantenaufsteilung but I could not see the contrast edges were in order.
Greeting
KDS
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
Well, you may only remember that the EX1 3x 1 / 2 "and has incorporated that in any case of the Z7 is known that the chips only make 1440 ... of the EX1 is not really known.
That's a small difference .... if tests then say the pictures look "right", then can only be concluded that the sharpness is generated electronical ... angeschärft say much more - with the corresponding consequences in the post.
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
Have already understood, Wolfgang, say what you want.
But the images of Z7 are already damn good, they are not synonymous when s.die EX1 heranreichen.
The lowlight behavior is in order. Tester beat perhaps at +18 dB gain hands over their heads, together, but I think even in this setting, the picture still bearable, as had already seen much worse. The chromatic aberration is visible, but bearable. Since Canon's A1 is indeed worse.
Greeting
KDS
Reply comix:
[quote = "High_Tension"]
In my experience, definitely the XH-A1. What depth of field is concerned are you so very much. This is USSD 20x zoom. The next you're in the tele, the lower the depth of field. If you then still enough light to make the ND filter reinmachst and the aperture wide open, you can with the Canon almost (!) Film the same shots.
Excuse me. But that just let everyone know that everything is bland, because in the 20s Zoom? That can certainly make. The period setting as a small DOF style is anything but simply recommended.
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
Have the pictures above have a Verarbeitusgsprozess behind it or are the original from the Z7?
Reply Bernd E.:
The ... with the flash recorder s.die Canon is so interesting. Do you have more detailed information ...
A direct link, I have unfortunately not ready, but in English-speaking forums - I recall, especially dvinfo.net - have some film of a successful collaboration between HVR-MRC1 and XH-A1 (which is synonymous with other cameras) have been reported.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply High_Tension:
Excuse me. But that just let everyone know that everything is bland, because in the 20s Zoom? That can certainly make. The period setting as a small DOF style is anything but simply recommended.
There has been synonymous none of its permanent setting spoken. There is only one possibility, if necessary, to a low depth of field to get. Why in the 20s fad zoom everything should work but I can not understand. What exactly do you mean there? Interested me just because you never know, yes auslernt.
@ Wowu: Unfortunately I have no precise information. Habs times I read somewhere (probably actually dvinfo.net) and habs me because I noticed it quite interesting to find themselves.
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
@ Wolfgang
The pictures are of the Camera with Edius 4.6 and imported into avi-canopusHQ been changed. Which was then a Still Image with Edius generated. The images are from the hand made, slight blurring was unavoidable.
@ Bernd
The CF-recorder can be used as a stand-alone device to operate. He will s.einen own battery holder docked at the same time synonymous a 6-pin firewire port and a tripod connection.
Greeting
KDS
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
Could you once the images directly from gecapturten signal load, because in the post now so many artifacts are mad that I can not believe. But in the processing chain is even more likely. I think the camera does not do that. But sharpening is synonymous already clearly visible, may be that the workflow is already adversely changed.
@ Bernd, High_Tension
Thanks for the advice, I werd'mal search geh'n.
Would be interesting to know how the recorder in relation to the TC behaves and whether it is manual and / or from the recorder can start ... and then as the TC resolved is whether the recorder then his own TC
generates ... and anyway a few questions ... I werd'mal search.
Thanks anyway.
Are we really off topic now?
Reply Bernd E.:
Bernd ... ... @ CF recorder can be used as a stand-alone device to operate ...
Yes thank you, this is already clear. WoWu was especially so in relation to information with the XH-A1.
Gruß Bernd E.
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
@ Wolfgang
When I have time, I can make the times. But at the moment is not possible. As already mentioned, there are random pictures out of pictures without a tripod. Since it will not go without artifacts.
Greeting
KDS
Reply WoWu:
KDS @
No problem, anytime ... You can mail them to me synonymous like zumailen. But with the Tripod has really nothing to do ... the results are probably de workflows ... I'm interested only s.welcher body as they arise and it would be possible Ausgangsmatierial without any editing is very helpful.
thank you in advance.
Reply K.-D. Schmidt:
@ Wolfgang
So, here times two pictures from the m2t file, recorded on Compact Flash.
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