Infoseite // Difference between HD 720p/50 with 25 fps and 24fps



Frage von charletto:


Hi, have a clip for a colleague in HDV ertsekllt p 720 with 25 fps, now I have this clip on his calculator to create. The PP has only 2.0. In this, I can but only one project as HDV 720p with 24 Fps create. What is the difference or can I at him then ever edit - Edition on DVD!
Yes I film with the JVC GY HD 110 with 720p/25FPS edition. If, however, the change to 24 FPS - but only for new clips. Is the difference to be seen or visible quality

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Antwort von tommyb:

FPS stands for frames per second to German frames per second.

If you have a 25p (25 images) video in a 24p Project reinsemmelst, then yes somewhere a Picture 25ste out. It is either

s.entfernt
b) cover it to keep in with the other frames will zusammengeblendet

In the case

s.wird it at intervals of one second per Jerkiness, especially beautiful in pans (as if not already at 25p are awful)

b) you have ugly ghosting and your material is used for total cheese.

There are only two solutions.

Solution 1:
Your friend organized a decent editing program which may be synonymous 720p25 (wenns because in German, it should actually can)

Solution 2:
You make a sg

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Antwort von Valentino:

First, this is the first version but the Camera recognize this version does not support 25p can not record.

But this time the difference:
25fps is designed for Europe and all other countries thought of the work with Pal. Even if it is the knowledge wenisgten with 25 images can be almost synonymous circumvent any 35mm projector and thus are actually 24 images totally unötig. The synonymous as all the movies on DVD at 25 frames or converted must be speeded up, you can read here:

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Antwort von WoWu:

Or you draw in the future GY HD110 in 24p on the same. The camera can do that.
If it is just a short insert, then "confirm" the 24p piece with 25 frames. You will always be a frame twice found therein.
Cutting 'manual simply redundant frames out and you have a flawless, non-interpolated representation.
Power in a course slightly longer insert work. Also you need to sound sure yet whether the remains synchronously. In case of need again.
So you reach a fluid motion without the drawbacks of interpolation. The two formats are then no longer be distinguished.

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Antwort von charletto:

Hi, as far as good, but how is it generally if I like in the Cam on the 24p mode with the walk, since there are over a 'normalen'DVD (with 25fps) visible differences - if I for example, a clip with about 35 min. create - in 24 Fps? And quality of her movement? Lt. JVC is the 24 Fps a 'cinema' mode and the 25 Fps a pure video mode! So, where is now the difference is exactly and above all quality and the flow is obviously not the ones who suffer!

LG
Charly

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Charly

The many discussions about the term "cinema mode" but you should already have shown that each somehow something else mean.
If the JVC, then they probably think that no gamma correction curves associated with it.
In DG 1xx changeable until you only the image frequency. Only thus can the images synonymous as "natlos" into other frequencies cut image. Imagine, 24p would be synonymous with the complete gamma changed ... then the images could only be great effort to adapt.
So, the difference between the JVC 24p and 25p is really just a time in the Picture. This should not you really remember.
If you have a DVD of them want to do, you have to be careful, if the signal is transmitted via HDMI because HDMI 720p24 no format, but a Blu-ray format.
Incidentally 25p not synonymous ... not even for Blue-Ray.
Unfortunately, this is now so that one can not simply more times and cable can use on both sides where it is HDMI, and then it works. The new interfaces use drastically unfortunately now in the design freedom.

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Antwort von Valentino:

"WoWu" wrote: @ Charly
So, the difference between the JVC 24p and 25p is really just a time in the Picture. This should not you really remember.
If you have a DVD of them want to do, you have to be careful, if the signal is transmitted via HDMI because HDMI 720p24 no format, but a Blu-ray format.
Incidentally 25p not synonymous ... not even for Blue-Ray.
Unfortunately, this is now so that one can not simply more times and cable can use on both sides where it is HDMI, and then it works. The new interfaces use drastically unfortunately now in the design freedom.

Since I have to pitch again, from HDMI 1.3 are 24 images available to all new and synonymous as synonymous display projector support 24 images and is now almost one year. The display this all 72Hz working with is just that the picture three times each appears.
The Blu-Ray no 25p support is new to me synonymous, in our encoding program is 1080 50i possible synonymous and about 25fps and the Blu Ray equipment of Panasonic, Pioneer Sonyand swallow synonymous these slices and this show really synonymous to the display.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Valentino

Quote: Since I have to pitch again, from HDMI 1.3 are 24 images available to all new and synonymous as synonymous display projector support 24 images and is now almost one year. The display this all 72Hz working with is just that the picture three times each appears.
You just have to read ... it was 720 of the speech, not the fact that generally no 24p transferred.
The HDMI specification (1.3.a v. 10 November, 2006) lay in the primary formats, no 24 Hz before and in the secondary formats 1920x1080@23.98 / 24 Hz
If the images are displayed 3x, this is a thing of the display. On the HDMI interface expected 24 Hz synonymous Why should a player to know whether the Monitor 3 x24Hz needs and which players would be transferred?
What Blu-ray is concerned,
of 1080i25 was also no question, but only of 24 or 25 P in shaping 720th
The specs indicate only 720 but as 720p50 ago, but not as 720p25. From 720p24, it was not doubtful.
Quote: because no HDMI 720p24 format, but a Blu-ray format.
You have very precisely to pay attention to what is still on the transmission paths and what is not.
And the game goes even further next, if only more than 1440 AVC is possible and not more than MPEG2.

And this is regardless of what programs to offer or monitors, because basically there are all these Formats ... they can often just do not carry .... I mean that with the encroachment on freedom.

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Antwort von charletto:

Hi Beloved,

many well-answers, but really came clear so I'm not, but no preference. The problem was solved very simply - with NEN update of Adobe directly for PP2, as was that for the 100 series of extra JVC released an update, and now supports exactly the desired format with 25 fps!
Unfortunately, the preview atrocious - as Mpeg 2 - but as a DVD edition with Mpeg 2 first cream.

So, thank you once again into the forum and the tips, you adnke

LG
Charly

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