Frage von RocknRoyal:
Hi,
We are currently busy with a music video shoot and the spot we are usually on the inside lights instructed, since I have no other light source ...
Now, in parking garages, subways etc are often used Leuchtstofföhren! We had yesterday is now a first rotation sample and the result is sobering.
The video is pervaded of "very strong" flicker / Flake and the flicker filter of FCP2 (even asked to max) will bring no improvement.
What can I do? Is it really impossible to shoot there? Wrong settings? ...
Camcorder is SonyPMW-EX3
Gruss
Alex
Antwort von TheBubble:
What refresh rate is filming her?
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
Wanted a nice Slowmo .... So with 60 ... but not permanently ...
Antwort von wontuwontu:
Clear case, filming her chance with 60 fps? Then s.der wrong frequency. Fluorescent bulbs work only by AC voltage, which means the electricity changes 50 times in the second direction (50Hz). When the camera filming 60fps but with 60Hz and here lies the problem.
That you know even more determined of the past, when television has filmed. Since then wanders through a strip Picture. This is s.sehr small differences in frequency. Jetzt gibts da FlickerReducer, gibts synonymous with the EX1 / 3 Bring a large difference but nix.
Other films you might synonymous in NTSC mode, current flows with the European 50Hz, with 60Hz American.
But let's face it, if ne EX3, should you have something on pal and ntsc know. Exactly why is the fact emerged ...
Greeting
Antwort von TheBubble:
Wanted a nice Slowmo .... So with 60 ... but not permanently ... The refresh rate should be some artificial light sources as possible to the line frequency of the power suit. Try it again with the 50i setting, then it is probably better.
Antwort von RocknRoyal:
No,
I film in PAL ....
Antwort von wontuwontu:
Wanted a nice Slowmo .... So with 60 ... but not permanently ...
The refresh rate should be some artificial light sources as possible to the line frequency of the power suit. Try it again with the 50i setting, then it is probably better. Do not be 50i, everything can be what works with 50Hz, so synonymous 25p and 50p ...
Just not 60 fps ... which is 60Hz and "really" an NTSC standard ....
Antwort von WoWu:
EX3 ------
I film in PAL .... ?
.... NTSC standard .... ?
I did not know that they are synonymous analogy EX3 can record .... great part.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
PAL NTSC ... ... ... ... I did not know that they are synonymous analogy EX3 can record .... Sonybezeichnet - just like any other manufacturer - the different settings synonymous with the EX3 officially with exactly those words familiar to us all. Sure are "PAL" and "NTSC" in the scientific worldview is not correct, but at least everyone knows what is meant. Finally, this distinction is seen in digital camcorders has been customary.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von wontuwontu:
EX3
------
I film in PAL .... ?
.... NTSC standard .... ?
I did not know that they are synonymous analogy EX3 can record .... great part. Korinthenkacker ...
Sorry, had to be.
Antwort von Jogi:
Unfortunately there are not at Ex1 Picture-50i frequency. For PAL it with 100 fps. filming. Better Angel 180 ° setting. then there are better values in the Exposure Full Atomodus. But precisely in this, I have some very synonymous as flickering images in artificial eingeheimst. Now the trick. After Auspielung on DVD this effect was simply no longer exists. Could but synonymous s.LCD of the screen is always progressive, not interlaced, output. How it looks on screen tubes weis ich allerdings nicht. The flicker-Reduced function of the EX1 is not always effective enough!
Antwort von DeeZiD:
Unfortunately there are not at Ex1 Picture-50i frequency. For PAL it with 100 fps. filming. Better Angel 180 ° setting. then there are better values in the Exposure Full Atomodus. But precisely in this, I have some very synonymous as flickering images in artificial eingeheimst. Now the trick. After Auspielung on DVD this effect was simply no longer exists. Could but synonymous s.LCD of the screen is always progressive, not interlaced, output. How it looks on screen tubes weis ich allerdings nicht. The flicker-Reduced function of the EX1 is not always effective enough! Flicker Reduction should ALWAYS be disabled!
For me, this feature even in daylight to ensure vigorous flickering ... Simply unbelievable.
Without Flicker Reduction, however 30p @ 60p @ 50Hz, or 100Hz easily here at fluroszierendem light feasible.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Unfortunately there are not at Ex1-50i Picture Frequency ... What do you mean? In the PAL setting dominates the EX1 but some 50i frequencies?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von PowerMac:
No,
I film in PAL .... Quark. Differentiate between shutter frequency and frame rate.
Operating both at 50 Hz
Antwort von dominator-video:
All experts, I have an EX3 and synonymous no idea.
Antwort von Jogi:
... Unfortunately there are not at Ex1-50i Picture Frequency ...
What do you mean? In the PAL setting dominates the EX1 but some 50i frequencies?
Gruß Bernd E. then look if you're somewhere a 50i frame rate can adjust. I had hoped that with the current firmware is a direct 50i shutter is set. Sadly No! But not so bad. There are enough TeilerFrquenzen. In Auto mode is recommended to always set Angel 180 °.
Antwort von Axel:
You think all have a shutter of 1/50tel, not 50
i. The Clear Scan shutter setting, it would also do, but it would be nothing more than get out, because our AC frequency is well known. A Hellsektor of 180 ° corresponds to a film camera when the shutter of the divider is twice the number of the picture or field rate. Just so it is with light, which oscillates at this frequency to another error: Any new recording may have a different brightness (phase shift).
Maybe, but the flicker synonymous with the Rolling Shutter CMOS strengthened. It should permit a Beispielclip see.
Antwort von pepono61:
With the original light brings her anyway not a good mood over. Even illuminate is the magic word.
Antwort von pepono61:
Addendum: On http://www.bebob-channel.de/ there are even a tutorial
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... then look if you're somewhere a 50i frame rate can adjust ... Since I do not have EX3, I have the manual translation of the information on the Sony website confirms: Obviously you can with a record setting 50i - synonymous wär so strange, if this does not go!
... had hoped that with the current firmware is a direct 50i shutter is set ... Well if you's in fact the shutter, then it's a completely different site than the recording frequency. But now, fortunately, are all eliminated clarities ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von PeterM:
I'm surprised eigendlich.
Even the HC 1 makes half of Aifnahmen FL flicker-free light.
Eigendlich should but the shutter in 50 i modus synonymous to 1 / 50 can be adjusted or enstsrechende Verschlusswikeleinstellung.
What you should absolutely try not ordinary times Leuchtsottlampe it.
One problem can result in fluorescent lamps for Flimmerkmpensation capacitors with extra work or s.unterschiedlichen the phases of the Drehstromnetztes hang because hierdiurch a phase shift in the Leuchtstofflamper Pels shows gereade shorter Shutterzeiten.
If you do not have the ability to genlock the Netztfrequenz or of artificial light, it is always useful with defined Verschusszeiten to work
Antwort von PowerMac:
That happens when one has no idea.
Antwort von Jogi:
Of course, my above comments in relation to the shutter. If the EX1 PAL is the refresh rate is already 50i. But with a suitable shutter 1 / 50 sec is not set!
Antwort von Asta:
Of course, my above comments in relation to the shutter. If the EX1 PAL is the refresh rate is already 50i. But with a suitable shutter 1 / 50 sec is not set! Is synonymous no preference.
Even if the shutter 1 / 60 sec, the sensors only 50 times per second for the duration of one-sixtieth seconds exposed. The frame rate remains at 50 per sec [/ quote]
Antwort von Jogi:
Right. The shutter is only the exposure time!
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi,
You can use the shutter synonymous VARIABLE put on and adjusted so that the Flimmerfrequenz. Just as with computer monitors. Test times.
Otherwise, look at my tutorials on the topics. Maybe it helps Dir See signature.
Many greetings
Lutz
