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Frage von nobody_327:


Good day everybody!
I am currently in the intensive search for a new one. Currently there are models of Canon and the closer Sonyin choice. Both models provide Manufacturer with hard drive and card slot. Canon has also still models with flash memory.
This begs me to the question of what advantages and disadvantages of flash memory or hard disks in. Sure, the hard disks are usually much more capacity, but for me this is not an essential criterion. Even with 32 GB of flash memory is in my view, sufficient space exists.
So, on tips and hints I would be delighted.
Thanks in advance.

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Antwort von domain:

"nobody_327" wrote: .. the hard disks are usually much more capacity, but for me this is not an essential criterion.

Thus you have the right answer for you already themselves.
Hard disks are only an interim solution, which consists of price and capacity is currently being encountered.

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Antwort von nobody_327:

"domain" wrote: "nobody_327" wrote: .. the hard disks are usually much more capacity, but for me this is not an essential criterion.

Thus you have the right answer for you already themselves.
Hard disks are only an interim solution, which consists of price and capacity is currently being encountered.


? Since I must now seek times? What does it mean now? Hard disks are nonsensical? Flash memory is small at the moment, but "stable" and faster?

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Antwort von nachtspion:

I think what domain says, is the fact that the flash memory in the hard drive speed and superior durability, at the moment but just too expensive.

Eventually, the price in GB / ¬ in the flash memory to the level of hard disks. Then there is absolutely no argument for more hard to use.
Advantage of the flash memory ...
- Faster
- Square Advantage
- Power Ender
- Fail-safe (no moving parts, no mechanical load)

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Antwort von Pianist:

In my camera so I can either 160-GB hard disks (corresponding to 160 minutes) or 32-GB solid-state memory (equivalent to 32 minutes) stuck inside. Currently, I have 3x 160 GB and 1 x 32 GB in use. The solid state memory, I am using, especially when I know that I reckon with strong vibrations must. For example, if I set the camera directly to the rail center and s.der rail could offer a Thermitschweissung is sanded. Or s.Bord a tamping. Or if I am next to a ram or a Bohrpfahlgerät stand. These are all situations where the drive would turn off the host, because the built-in vibration sensor protects the plate.

So my rule of thumb: In normal case, the hard disks, in special situations, but the solid state memory.

Matthias

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Antwort von nobody_327:

Well, that helps me have next.
Thus, in fact, the Sony models yes synonymous already in direct comparison with Canon raus. Sony offers only card and / or hard drive. At Canon, are now 32 GB flash card installed ....
And apparently, the Canon is synonymous in terms of image quality on top of .....
Pity that the Touch Screen for Canon still has not arrived.
Must look for which I will finally decide. But at least the theme of memory is now essentially resolved for me.
Thank you again.

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Antwort von domain:

"nobody_327" wrote:
Sony offers only card and / or hard drive.

Accordingly, Sony offers every possible combination :-)
However, I would be synonymous with flash-based systems only guess, if not strong reasons to the contrary.

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Antwort von nobody_327:

"domain" wrote: "nobody_327" wrote:
Sony offers only card and / or hard drive.

Accordingly, Sony offers every possible combination :-)
However, I would be synonymous with flash-based systems only guess, if not strong reasons to the contrary.


Sorry, hit me exact times of ....
Sony Does not flash memory (at least not firmly installed and as far as my sources are correct), but only hard drive and / or memory stick.
Canon is card slot and solid flash memory.

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Antwort von nachtspion:

I'd honestly always a fixed camera without buying the used memory.
1. because then these cameras are cheaper and so cheap, I consider the extra cost almost twice as s.Kapazität could buy SCHD. The Prices are for SCHD in fall.
2. each memory has a theoretical life. When Flash memory is the number of write operations. When the time is broken, if you are no other options, such as external memory, as silly.

One can assume that the SCHD cards sometime in the price level, such as a HDV Tape (price / min.). Then you have to buy new cards and old can use as an additional backup.

There are now synonymous Lowbudget (< ¬ 1,000) which have 2 card slots and during the recording can be changed. That would be for ambitious amateur filmmakers, the non plus ultra.

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Antwort von nobody_327:

"night spion" wrote: I'd honestly always a fixed camera without buying the used memory.
There are now synonymous Lowbudget (< ¬ 1,000) which have 2 card slots and during the recording can be changed. That would be for ambitious amateur filmmakers, the non plus ultra.


Good argument! At the moment I have in the narrow circle the Canon HF 10 and HF 100, HF 11, or the new HF 20 and HF 200th In particular, HF 20 and of 200 distinguished only by the observed flash installed. Size, weight and features are the two absolutely equal. The price difference is quite clear. But, these two slots as far as I know not.
Ultimately, the question remains whether the firm actually synonymous flash a sort of "wear and tear" covered?

The choice may already dead ....

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Antwort von nachtspion:

One is subject to wear and tear of the memory in any case. The question is whether it is relevant. This is synonymous s.der quality of memory used, or how often this without downtime is described / can be deleted. If the memory 2,000,000 erase cycles through, I think you need a lot of work to achieve.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash-Speicher#Anzahl_der_L.C3.B6schzyklen
http://www.wer-weiss-was.de/theme59/article2749628.html

But anyway you have a error-prone and expensive part of the camcorder. Let's say disk or flash memory zig rum. Then you need the complete part for repair. If your SDHC memory is no longer working correctly, then simply buy a new one.

I must say that I'm holding happy regardless of my choice in the storage medium (brand, quality). That will be my future camcorder is probably not a Sony product (Memory Stick). Everything is fixed limits me in some way. That must not synonymous true to yourself and you certainly do not do anything wrong if you have a HD or similar purchase. Finally, all I know, and of those devices you an extra slot for memory cards. seen as one is safe when you are not on the built-in memory and leaves always a SDHC card with you.

The Dualslot with the JVC Everio GZ-HM200:
http://www.testberichte.de/p/jvc-tests/everio-gz-hm200-testbericht.html

In the future, hopefully the other Manufacturer synonymous similar offer.

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