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Frage von f/0.7:


Moin,

'm looking for the best affordable semi-fluid head (up to 300 EURO). The head should be done both with a Canon XH-A1 (2.1 kg) as synonymous with a Canon HV20 (0.5 kg) clearly come.

Is there something about or should I schedule two heads? (The fact that a HV20 on a thick fluid head looks a little bizarre, do not bother, as long as it works well).

After intensive Internet research is only the Manfrotto 503 remained. Then I had, however, note that these on the page of the German importer is no longer listed. Instead, there is a successor to the 501 head, namely the 501HDV.

What would you recommend?

Olaf

PS Yes, I know that trying the best. Unfortunately, I have no chance.

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

The 501 is perfectly adequate! How heavy is your cam so not synonymous.

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Antwort von beiti:

It can only happen that the spring in the head for the smaller camcorder is a bit too strong, so strong that he himself toppling of zurückfedert (if you do not end in festschraubt). I think, with the downside, you can live.

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Antwort von f/0.7:

Danke erstmal, really smart but I'm still not. Just to reiterate www.dvinfo.net opinions relating to Tripods views.

It seems as if everybody with a good head (501.503 Manfrotto, Gitzo 2380, etc.) has begun. Many people have quickly found that all these models do not actually have to use to grow and Sachtler, Vinten, Cartoni, etc. around.

Have all too much money in your pocket or are heads in the 200-300 EURO class really so modest?

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Antwort von Klausi2000:

The question then it's synonymous with dvinfo.net

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Digital Video has the set Manfrotto 525 with 503 head tested and is high in the rankings before Cartoni Vinten and co

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Antwort von Reinhold Kaufmann:

Also I have some inexpensive models to the 200, - euro tested. Basically, I was not satisfied with the stands when they are still so, delicious "were advertised.
That was my learn. unfortunately .. never again!
So and now I have something useful for the XL2,,, Manfrotto Video Kit 501/525 PKIT "for 431.97 euros in technology directly Würzburg, free!
A super Tripod, it's profitable material.
mfg
Reinhold Kaufmann
Video Film Services
52353 Düren

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Antwort von gast007:

The 501 is not a true fluid head. Many buyers are with him are not so satisfied. Is this synonymous here already one or the other thread. Would tend to guess 503, of a real fluid with infinite attenuation setting.
BTW you can see already a difference between Manfrotto and consorts and one or Vinten Sachtler Tripod. However, we must for the difference in quality synonymous neatly in the pockets. Depends on your willingness to use and the purpose. A buttery soft swing in the telephoto range you will with a little 501 can achieve. For recordings at family gatherings but it probably goes fully and completely out.

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Antwort von beiti:

I had already Tripods from the 20-euro Bilora up to 2500-euro Sachtler in use. Short summary:
- Under $ 50, there is nothing that would be useful for shooting. If it is "universally for Still Image and Video", you should in any case should steer clear of it.
- In the area under 150 Euro are the Velbon DV-Tripods-the ultimate. They have correct fluid heads with fine adjustment for both directions. Disadvantages in comparison to true professional heads: It lacks a spring balance (important for heavier camcorder) and the inclination you can not fix during recording (because then the image shifts).
- The low cost of Manfrotto video heads (and I count synonymous to the simple 501 without the "HDV") come in terms of smoothness not s.die Velbon ran. Especially missing the simpler Manfrottos a more adjustable damping in the horizontal and the vertical damping is okay.
- Larger Manfrotto heads (503 upwards, possibly already synonymous of the new 501HDV) are significantly better, require for optimal function, but heavier camcorder. With a 600-g-camcorder, even the smallest spring tension too strong, and also the camera's weight is a crucial factor of stabilization (The mass of the camcorder must be reasonably interpreted with the harmony of the head).
- The large-Sachtler Tripods are great to use (temperature-independent, very soft cushioning in 5 stages), synonymous but they work only in conjunction with corresponding heavy camcorders properly. The smaller (barely affordable) Sachtler DV synonymous Tripods are very good, but unfortunately only 1 attenuation stage (approximately stage 3 corresponds to the large), which is a disadvantage compared to the infinitely variable damping of the Manfrottos can be. Sachtler advantage is the temperature-independent damping (there is no fat in it, which at low temperatures would be tough).

If the Canon A1 is the largest unit, which will be operated on and you renounce the balance spring can, I would with a Velbon DV -7000 sample. Do not let the cheap price compared to the semi-Manfrotto Sets fool, what is more expensive is not always better.
If you someday have a Manfrotto 501HDV-kit or a Sachtler DV1/DV2 nachkaufst, the Velbon you can still opt for the second-use camcorder.

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Antwort von f/0.7:

Thank you very much, especially s.Beiti!

I now have the Gitzo 2380 head is appointed, because I very good (Still Image) Tripods, which I continue to use them.

If the partout not enough, then I'll watch for Sachtler ...

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Antwort von gueste:

Hello folks!

I got here just ne andre question Manfrotto tripods. I now had the opportunity of a test (it was dark and I've s.horizontalen wheel for strength for side pan rotated until it was not next) in the instructions was that there are 1-7 stages. However, as a whole then I looked in the light, I saw no point of 1-7 but only a <- arrow showing the direction clockwise (I think) I no longer knew the direction in which the part I now had to turn it back on loosely make. I habs sampled in the direction of the arrow and in the opposite direction. I had no chance but the back wheel to rotate. Why is that? At the temperature? Can I re-directed? I know no longer what it was tripod head, but a liquid was definitely there. I would even help if someone could tell me in what direction we must turn, then go, I ran with his hammer, if nothing works anymore!

Thank you!

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Antwort von pezi:

I think the Manfrotto 501er is not as bad as it often is presented. In the way, he is synonymous of a fluid head, however, will not change the damping by regulating the flow of the fluid but realized by friction of Teflon discs. If only this additional damping, it is a "normal" fluid head with constant damping.
I myself have sent me a 501/525 kit purchased and am as far as price-performance with very happy, had a prior RC128/190b Combination in use with the cameras and SonyHC1 Canon XL1. 525er vorallem the legs are a dream if you must work realtiv high with the camera, with the 190er was both the center column extended, thus forming a stable work was no longer possible.
I work otherwise synonymous with the WSP SonyDSR 570 large and Cartoni Tripods - that are worlds, however, depends not only on the tripod, but synonymous in the mass, which Sonymitbringt ..
Moreover, I feel that working with the HC1 on the 501/525 is very pleasantly synonymous when one listens to the s.and Tripod Combo was overkill for such small ne Camera. As for the buttery soft Schwänks concerns: Practice makes perfect - had been synonymous with the XL1 of a 1400mm focal drauf (first attempt) to find the pictures are but anschaubar and with practice I think there is something out of.
But surely if the money and the willingness is there more, then you buy, what you can afford, because a tripod will give you long maintained ...
Oh the 501HDV is the spring as I was posted.

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Antwort von utan:

sorry - the above post was of me ...

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Antwort von melusine:

synonymous have the Manfrotto 501 HDV Tripod with the Manfrotto 055PROB purchased. have a panasonic nv-gs500.
I though the image stabilizer off had any jerky swivel, no preference in what direction I Schwenke.
have at the moment, the friction tilt open, and the balance of system.
what should I do?
there were no instructions how to use these heads.

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Antwort von SToe:

I have looked at dvcut last week 501HDV, 525Kit for 499 EUR incl VAT purchased. Now s.den holidays properly rotated and then I will report back. The thing really makes a good impression and if it does not fit send it back.

Carsten Bauer

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Antwort von Max 10:

The statements about the Manfrotto 525 Tripod I find absolutely fine. This Staiv is excellent in use and very convenient for purse. It is equal to other brands. From the price point of view probably the beneficiary of all.
What, however, the fluid heads are concerned, I disagree. I have the Manfrotto 503 extensively tested. He came in shooting in the mountains are used. I was disappointed. It is not the quality that is always promised. As for the price arrived, this one can not synonymous, however, expect more. Quality Fluid heads cost about four times the price. Similarly, the synonymous-and tilt-turn behavior. The Manfrotto 503 is for my words too much play (noticeable when the arm is easily moved, it is a slight wobbling camera noticeable) and has therefore, a precise camera work is not possible. My suggestion would be the Sachtler fluid head DV 6 SB. It is beyond doubt, but unfortunately not for a small purse. But who buys each year have a new fluid head.
Max of Bergler

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Max 10" wrote: Manfrotto 503rd .. ... I was disappointed too much game ... precise camera work is not possible.
So far, I have with the 503 really only good experiences, but of course it is always very much on the intended use and the camera used to. Moreover, these Manfrotto head now by the more developed 503HDV replaced.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von strohy:

I have extra maintenance and yesterday the new Manfrotto 503 HDV receive. I will miss him now extensively tested and then you times my Conclusion comment.

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Antwort von VidUser:

A question about the Manfrotto 503 Kit. The Tripod 525 has a ground spider. For outdoor shooting is useless. Can the soil as a means synonymous spider spider are grown?

Thank you very much

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"VidUser" wrote: ... Ground spider. For outdoor shooting is useless. Can the soil as a means synonymous spider spider are grown? ...
With the ground spider can be more easily rotate in the open than you think. As a means spider is usable, although it might not, but the means of Manfrotto spider is so cheap (if not equal to the "Octopus" to be), that certainly is worth the purchase.

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Antwort von VidUser:

@ Bernd,
Thanks for your info. So it's possible the ground spider abzubasteln and instead a means to spider. Are there any recommendations? The octopus is a spider means (if I understood correctly) What is so special?

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Antwort von krokymovie:

"VidUser" wrote: @ Bernd,
Thanks for your info. So it's possible the ground spider abzubasteln and instead a means to spider. Are there any recommendations? The octopus is a spider means (if I understood correctly) What is so special?


exactly what I changed, ground spinne s.and oktopus ran. beneficial:
you're faster in the building, as in the set of legs. without oktopus you need to on uneven ground ensured.
you can decapitate with two good swing, the 503 is only komportabler. I have both heads working and synonymous with a hv30.
that is with the Velbon and the 501 made:

and the 525/503 with the hv30 and a:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=DE&hl=de&v=x4-DgYL7vrs

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"VidUser" wrote: Central spider ... ... Are there any recommendations? ...
Defect Choice is a great tip is not too difficult: Manfrotto 531 or just the "Octopus" 530th

"VidUser" wrote: Octopus ... ... What is so special? ...
Be found here:
http://www.manfrotto-shop.de/Stativzubehoer/Manfrotto/MA_530SPRB_Mittelspinne.htm

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Antwort von VidUser:

@ Krokymovie,
nice shots. The vert-horiz. Pan looks nice and soft supple from.
Which Tripod, with means spider, as well to fit Manfrotto 503HDV-Neiger. A ground spider, I would not necessarily have. And the "Octopus" is not exactly a cheap purchase but certainly very practical.

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Antwort von krokymovie:

The question is, you have an Neiger? if not, I would have thee on every case, a combi from stativ video Eiger 525 and 503 recommended.
this tripod is set, the bag (Kata) free of charge when, as is the 520ball. if you have the single compilation, it's considerably expensive.
was used here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Manfrotto-Tripod-503- HDV-525-KIT-with-Tasche_W0QQitemZ150327228101QQcmdZViewItemQQptZFilmkameras_projektoren? Item150327228101 hash = & _trksid = p3286.c0.m14 & _trkparms = 72% 3A1229
with new 503:
http://www.dvcut.de/epages/61062089.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61062089/Products/503HDV% 2C525PKIT
with 501 new super cheap, really goes from:
http://www.dvcut.de/epages/61062089.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61062089/Products/501HDV% 2C525PKIT

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Antwort von krokymovie:

Central spinne Manfrotto 531 does not have the quick adjustment in the middle. stabelisiert but just as the oktopus.
I would still have the cheap must manfotto 531.
look here the information:
http://www.bogenimaging.de/Jahia/product_main_page/site/bide/cache/off/cache/bypass?actualPathCategoryKey=1CAT:AAA1:2CAT:BB59:3CAT:CCC1:4CAT:D328&marketSelect=MARKET:MKT2&curMarketId=MARKET: MKT2 & curBrandId = MAN & kindOfProductCollectionRequest = productlist & isCleanList = true

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Antwort von VidUser:

Thank you for posting. Hat mich erstmal further.

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Antwort von VidUser:

Hi folks,
when a tripod or head horizontally and vertically oriented but it should always pans remain precisely aligned. When I SonyVCT 1170RM Tripod, it remains only for about 90 ° in the balance.
That can not be normal. How does it because of your tripod?

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Antwort von VidUser:

Oops ... nobody can give me tips?

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Antwort von Kar.El.Gott:

"VidUser" wrote:
That can not be normal.


You've even said it ....

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Antwort von VidUser:

What is there with the Manfrotto 503 from. Will it, once aligned, synonymous over 306 ° in the balance? Well, 360 ° pans now come really rare. However, 180 ° (Panaorama) will be applied on many occasions. Or do some really mann 1000 ¬ for a decent tripod to spend?

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Antwort von krokymovie:

"VidUser" wrote: What is there with the Manfrotto 503 from.

I think there was enough to declare an opinion. You can find my next up and on my yt account that it works.

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