Frage von rhartmann:
Hello,
I know that such questions are asked almost every day since I made all the contributions other forums does not really become'm smart, I try it just once synonymous, please do not resent ;-).
I have in the past year some shorts rotated (including applications for the next exercise and so) and would like to see synonymous finally a camera up, the expected rent is so slow anyway to a. The short films, I have a larger part with a Panasonic DVX100AE rotated and one with its SONY Z1E (ie with the XLRs ...). This was nice with the HDV, but I'm really excited, although I look at the Picture nem HD-Beam saw, but I do not really want and am currently synonymous simply not to be dealing with.
But the real question. I think about it I finally just to purchase a separate camera, of which I then a bit longer synonymous what have. Presently, I really only the SonyVX2100 and the Panasonic DVX100B (!) E. What I s.der Sonyvermisse have XLR inputs or can be economically and / or practical to retrofit (I have at times seen irgendnem Still Image) and a true 16:9 mode, it has not synonymous, right? In addition, I am quite fond in 25p, already think it looks really cool or I will be with its VX2100 s.Filmlook synonymous happy?
And yet another question about DVX100BE if I have understood correctly, does the BE (at least to me of interest) etc. apart from TimyCodeSynchro primarily by the possibility of 16:9 on the LCD display, right? The AE is always stretched these images, in which synonymous then you never know what is so everything in the picture and kreucht fleucht is done in BE or better?
Thank you for your patience and help!
Liebe Grüße,
Rob
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Since you apparently been a full year "a few short films" and rotated for allegedly Camera've rented, I would simply hire another two cameras go (Guess what!) And a comparison shoot queue. Then are you gaaanz sure why what you like better!
From my personal experience with many years of a separate (!) AG-DVX100 (1st generation, imported from Hong Kong), and the basic fact that around the globe (smaller) the broadcasters DVX100 professionally, adding that Sony left us the right picture for a few pixels trim (barely one has ever noticed, even the people from the Professional Center at Berne not here), and that the Panny XLR (essential if you want good sound recording) and a virtually unmatched Leica Lens, is your question for me, no question! :-)
Half of this?
Antwort von HeikoS:
Considering also that Sony left us the right picture for a few pixels trim (barely one has ever noticed, even the people from the Professional Center at Berne not here), as well as ....
If the random 9 pixels left and right, then it must be synonymous. Because that is the standard definition. Once the Picture the D / A converter passes are precisely These 9 pixels cropped.
Image content in this area so you use just a bit until you get the material on the calculator anschaust.
Nevertheless, I would favor DVX100 synonymous.
Antwort von birdie:
Image content in this area so you use just a bit until you get the material on the calculator anschaust. ... and on each DVD s.Beamer, which is now synonymous gaaanz no longer so unusual output medium is ...
I prefer these pixels are available and may, in the worst case, for Pan & Scan (additional) use of as they lost the outset to give in anyway mere 720 pixel horizontal resolution! But, hey, this is just MY opinion.
Antwort von rhartmann:
I've almost thought that it comes down ;-) So are 800 ¬ extra for the panasonic justified, right? someone knows a better offer than 3300 ¬ for Neupreis dvx100be ne?
thanks and gruß
rob
Antwort von Jan:
Also known as PD 170 occasional filmmaker, I must say - for your purposes, the DVX 100 is the better camera. Only in this way at least a few advantages of the AE I know a little.
Wide: 32.5 mm - Lichstärke F 1,6 over the entire 10x zoom (Sonyf 2.4 at Tele)
IT CCDs
The 25 P-mode
-The LCD is better
-Automatically cleaning the head drum
A zoom ring, which is not as Sonyins infinity can rotate, etc. ..
VG
Jan
Antwort von PowerMac:
Reißzoom, film look, better lens, more wide professional functions and features. The DVX is worth it! A Z1 would be synonymous but worth a consideration.
Antwort von bumsbomber:
yes, Z1 agrees. with the synonymous times I rotated, but the overall handling of the panasonic, I would rather be. as in your camcorder sales consultants are the first impression is not to despise but still ;-) times to disclose any tips or 3300 ¬ incl vat for new panasonic ne dvx100be normal / fine / too expensive?
thanks and gruß
rob
Antwort von bumsbomber:
for 3300 ¬ würd ich mir ne Canon XH-A1 take.
Antwort von bumsbomber:
why now? (and tell me what the price on the panasonic?)
Antwort von bumsbomber:
Sorry, I must of course explain. All functions of the Panasonic, Canon offers the synonymous and much more. Thus, for example, in the Canon HDV recording, should you someday want.
Also I find the price of 3300 ¬ for a camera at this age is simply not justified.
But this is only my opinion. What is important is what you think and you'd s.besten wärs you just the cameras you are interested in a specialty store at your trust.
After all, what bring you the best settings when you are not handling them. For my part, I think the DVX in the handling just shit, and the Canon just great. Others see it differently!
Antwort von bumsbomber:
If I have understood correctly, the canon halt almost completely without menu, right?
and what do you say about the 25f mode of the canon, if you've already used more frequently.
thanks and regards,
r
Antwort von rhartmann:
Sorry, the last few posts have inadvertently made un-logged. So my question to the canon - what we do then it landed in HDV - how satisfied are you with the 25f mode, once you start on this topic to dig through the forum, one is not exactly secure in his opinion. and it is indeed the case that one can not simultaneously focus and zoom ring handle, so the focus after zooming can draw?
and thanks for gruß experiences. what to say because the proponents of panasonic canon?
gruß
rob
Antwort von bumsbomber:
You can not zoom in and simultaneously provide sharp, but that hardly makes synonymous. I have also s.ner times XM1 grade the test, which makes it synonymous not simultaneously.
The 25f mode, I have not extensively test. But the controls are Phenomenal.
Just as an example the Skin Detail setting includes 3 separate values you can set. For it's Sonycam High Middle and Low without the ability to tune.
Antwort von rhartmann:
hmm, now I am again totally insecure. HDV or not. 25p or 25f. well, I have to really go and 25p to me the panasonic and the canon again in the press can handle. thanks to you once and for further notice I am grateful!
Antwort von rhartmann:
achso @ gast: where did you bought your canon and was spent?
Antwort von bumsbomber:
I paid 3350 including shipping. That was at Media Online. For direct technique is probably the same price to have.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Of the features, Picture (HD) features and the Canon of course, would be better for the price. The handling, the handling Fummel and "the optics" but they are big drawbacks. The Canon offers a lot for the money, but as a videographer I find it impossible from handling.
Just debug!
Antwort von Jürgen F.:
1. Hello Guest:
"You can not zoom in and simultaneously provide sharp, but that hardly makes synonymous." ... make the "I-if I worked s.Tag x-30. It belongs to the daily bread of the cameraman or his assistant.
The fact that in the Canon not funzt knew I did not and is in clear shortcoming.
Hello Rarthmann:
For DV, I would be synonymous Pana 100 access, whether it is the "BE" version to be? Perhaps there are 2.Generation of AE as a demo, or "used" at the dealer.
In the AE could still choose a single recording - is in the BE version is no longer the case.
In 16:9 format forget to think that the Panasonic 100 - no preference which version - all only have 4:3 chips installed.
PS: How do the the Panasonic HVX200?
Regards, Jürgen F.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Photo A function was synonymous not the DVX100 AE.
Antwort von Jürgen F.:
Powermac Hello,
Of course I thought the "One-Shot" and the various interval times!
Grüße Jürgen F
Antwort von bumsbomber:
I've almost thought that it comes down ;-) So are 800 ¬ extra for the panasonic justified, right? someone knows a better offer than 3300 ¬ for Neupreis dvx100be ne?
thanks and gruß
rob http://newi.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2786
Antwort von Bernd E.:
http://newi.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2786 If gross to just under 3400 euros ... not really cheaper than 3300 euros ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
@ Jürgen - then yes you must be pretty good s.deiner Camera's?
With sharpness and frequent relocations and the Zoomverlagerungen with one hand? I versuch synonymous both functions very quickly together to create - but it is certainly not easy for many different distances (3 m once shortly after 15 m) and fast zooming (of 10-20x). Yes where the rings and turn around where the focus point is to get out faster or slower depending on the talent. And then still keep an eye on the exposure, I think it's very on your Aufnahmentyp to. In rare and unusual changes in sharpness of the press Teles is certainly not a problem both at the same time easy to create.
Good with the DVX 100 is again a trace of them has easier fashion CHK, there can be values for fixed focal distance and "save", and this then call fairly quickly - for permanent and changing similar distance zoom.
The 25 P mode of the DVX is definitely very much involved, with her to get the film look (so corny) very close, because you have the Sony with no chance without a 35 mm adapter.
In the old DVX 100 is at 25 P of the automatic WAG, and the AF gain turned off the car - well I think that one can renounce the 3 functions regulate the filmmakers like yourself eh
With the functions Cine and Cine Gamma matrix can still synonymous little help in order to create their own look. Yes the Canon XH A 1 is probably setting in a class by itself.
VG
Jan
Antwort von chaos_total:
@ Jürgen F.
"You can not zoom in and simultaneously provide sharp, but that hardly makes synonymous." ... make the "I-if I worked s.Tag x-30. It belongs to the daily bread of the cameraman or his assistant. Since I can agree from experience!
@ Jan
With sharpness and frequent relocations and the Zoomverlagerungen with one hand? Yes, that is, synonymous with one hand. But these are synonymous the moments where I always hope, three hands to have. ;)
Liebe Grüße, chaos
Antwort von Jürgen F.:
Hello rhartmann,
So I've researched a bit:
here in North Rhine-Westphalia is the street price for a Pana100BE incl. 1 spare battery at the moment net 2729th - ¬. (Of course Panasonichändler) I think if you get a little press, there is ne camera bag.
But beware: I need you not to tell that to "make movies" more than just a Pana 100 is one ... see "consequential".
Regards, Jürgen F.
Antwort von rhartmann:
many thanks to you all. at the moment I tend to surprisingly canon. ;-) And thank you, yes to the movies to make one more than ne pana or canon. but with irgendner camera captures one stop, does not it? I simply no longer persistent bock hundreds euroscript any distributors in the neck to throw, but one can perhaps understand synonymous, right?
So once again big thanks s.alle mitposter.
rob
Antwort von rhartmann:
here in North Rhine-Westphalia is the street price for a Pana100BE incl. 1 spare battery at the moment net 2729th - ¬. Incidentally, net 2729 ¬ 3300 ¬ are gross. exactly the price that I had asked synonymous. Embarrassed synonymous only happy when I was a few days before had found, in waves + Noethen old pharmacists is my net hook but noticed ;-). So thank you again. see you soon, rob
