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Frage von HermannH:


Good day

I just tried various Hi8 tapes via Hauppauge Win-TV PVR 150 to the calculator to copy. Suddenly s.denselben are increasingly parts of the band following image disorders.
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The display of the camera, they are not visible. Can there s.einem poorly shielded cable due to the fact that an already weak signal is not properly transferred or is the error on the tape? Towards the latter is that these disorders on recently already perfectly copied tapes occur.

Ideas?

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Antwort von Markus:

In sync problems set usually indicates a Timebase Corrector (TBC) that stabilizes the video signal.

That the picture noise with the time and be more synonymous with flawless recordings previously occur, could be synonymous with an increasing pollution of the video heads connected. By contrast, if applicable, a help (dry-) cleaning cartridge.

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Antwort von Jerzu:

Reinigungskasette purchased and used. No improvement. Had I found strangely synonymous, because the camera is so neatly the Picture shown.

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Antwort von Markus:

Then would probably only the test with the TBC. In this case it would be synonymous useful on a more suitable tool for analog-digital convert it. A TV card is only suboptimal.

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Antwort von camtv:

If the Picture of your error, it has not with the camera or the tape to be done.

The bug is probably in your graphics card drivers. Please check the first including all updates.

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Antwort von camtv:

@ Markus

but that is not a typical sync problem. The look different. This looks like a bug of the graphics driver from ..... Typically, at least not Video. (would like to hear sounds dismissed)

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Antwort von Markus:

I thought it was already been tested, but because it looks like Picture (with the same / another cable) s.Television from?

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Antwort von camtv:

The cable, we can exclude synonymous .... I honestly such a picture has not yet seen ..... That is stupid in the forum - would like to s.der Maz .....

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Antwort von Jerzu:

Thank you for your answers and questions.

"camtv" wrote: If the Picture of your error is (...)
Yes, this is an affected field.

"camtv" wrote: The bug is probably in your graphics card drivers. Please check the first including all updates.
My driver and used the official software is up to date and works in the tuner mode perfectly. Not that the software exclude, but much more I can not offer.

"camtv" wrote: would like to hear sounds dismissed
No anomalies in the sound. Sound runs undisturbed next, cracks not synonymous.

"Mark" wrote: How does the Picture (with the same / another cable) s.Television from?
A good idea. Not even thought off O_o. Other cables, I have unfortunately not (I do not synonymous times more on ebay). On Television, the error synonymous to see, but are much less visible. One has rather been due hingucker to something to see. Possible that the error is synonymous in the small viewfinders camera could be seen, however, escapes me.
Then I have the next error investigated. Each field is specific damage, but will see the error in repeated play always the same. Now speaks clearly against the tapes. Schade.

I'm sorry you have to be so annoyed.

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Antwort von Markus:

The talks continued for the sync problem, because television has a bent for greater capture signals as analog-digital converter. Next, I would switch between TB and see how the picture looks so. So you are not a random (possibly a loan of another videographers) are available?

Possibly. synonymous has the track position of the Hi8 playback device will receive a blow. In this case, the problem may be with another Hi8 recorder resolved.

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Antwort von camtv:

@ markus

Please correct me if I had a beer too many.

Here, then someone Hi8 tape - and so go into a capture card ?????? Where will this analog transmission to troubleshoot sync issues in CVBS or SVHS signal lie - except in the PC or in the Cam?

There are no internal analog area Sync as Dv ......

And HI 8 has no way synonymous to the external sync. Except for the old U Matic Mazen.

Sunday We have everything here - but no sync Probs ......

Isch Daet now rather something quite different because of the suspect image:

We have here a video that is not the ITU standard.

Either the CVBS signal is about 1.75 V SS, or the input stage of the card is not the ITU, CCIR standard but subdued.

TV = 0.75 V pp

So is the card only for capturing of CCIR (broadcast) signals, not video, but according to ITU FBAS 601.03

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Antwort von Markus:

What should it be if the lower rows are laterally shifted? Similar error I have previously only seen when the head drum slows. But then moves the entire picture and not just a part of it.

The fact that only certain signal standards are accepted, does not explain why it has worked well so far. Or has the PC now noticed that the signals are not right? - If I could, however, synonymous not be surprised if this case is exactly correct. ;-)

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Antwort von camtv:

Read again, have complemented

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Antwort von Markus:

Dto. ;-)

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Antwort von camtv:

"Mark" wrote: What should it be if the lower rows are laterally shifted? Similar error I have previously only seen when the head drum slows. But then moves the entire picture and not just a part of it.

The fact that only certain signal standards are accepted, does not explain why it has worked well so far. Or has the PC now noticed that the signals are not right? - If I could, however, synonymous not be surprised if this case is exactly correct. ;-)


No.. perhaps raises the cam now for this tape out too much. I would like to look at the waveform monitor - Then we have another solution.

It's stupid with remote - but the picture looks like on analog level.

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Antwort von Markus:

"camtv" wrote: It's stupid with remote ...
You're apt to the point! What our times just a quick test would be, most users lack uswegen devices simply do not test.

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Antwort von camtv:

@ markus

Bingo!

Ich hab dir ne incidentally serious mail!

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Antwort von ZappaF.:

"waveform monitor" - sounds exciting ... I can not exceed a normal oscilloscope care, but that hardly helps probably next.
An ordinary stationary player would be nice, I'm just on the net in search of usable leases of the Hamburg-West region. Let's see if I can find what.

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Antwort von Markus:

"A / e Nameless / r wrote: "waveform monitor" - sounds exciting ... I can not exceed a normal oscilloscope care ...
A waveform monitor is practically an oscilloscope for a particular purpose. Seen were the synonymous. At least, so that could determine whether the cause is indeed a false signal level could be.

Just today I had a customer with a similar band errors. The camera was fixed with a jeep and has been linked to strokes during the recording have the tape transport and the head drum disturbed. Since the Picture tipped partly synonymous halbbildweise away.

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Antwort von HermannH:

"Mark" wrote:
Just today I had a customer with a similar band errors. The camera was fixed with a jeep and has been linked to strokes during the recording have the tape transport and the head drum disturbed. Since the Picture tipped partly synonymous halbbildweise away.


Shocks (maybe not as much as a Jeep) there was during the recordings enough (from the wrist flat, pointed to dirty amateur filmmaker like myself heard). Passt synonymous to the occurrence of disturbances. Now I have the PVR nurnoch card say they may wish to filter them out so the picture looks like on the television. That she has more than a week or so. camtv appears with his theory on faulty software but rather to keep.

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Antwort von Markus:

"HermannH" wrote: [...] Shocks took place during the recordings enough (from the wrist flat, pointed to dirty amateur filmmaker like myself heard).
Average Freehand Gewackel would normally not have such problems. Are you perhaps with the camcorder while recording gone? Many videographers springs the camcorder is not sufficient, resulting in the occurrence (of the feet), then to such problems.

Depending on the expression helps but is not synonymous TBC more. And the software can be little change, if the hardware (which is the interference of analog to digital converts) the image signal is not correct (!) Recognizes.

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Antwort von HermannH:

No, I make while running from the camera. - It is so bad it was not for me. Tripod shots but they are always in order, so this is probably the most likely reason.
How was the synonymous: your professional help has made it possible at least to find the cause. I've known at NEN NDR, perhaps I can look around an old Hi8 player to ask from the tape even more rausholen can.
And now I purchase an SD Handycam with only digital zoom. Mechanics ade!
This is a joke.
Thanks s.alle involved.

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