Infoseite // Proper handling of Firewire cables



Frage von chrissi_410:


Among the frequent Gragen "PC Cam does not recognize"

Yesterday I had a revealing conversation with many an electronics, the synonymous of broken camcorder Sonyrepariert (in Lüneburg).
He strongly advises all users to connect the firewire cable off of your camcorder and PC / laptop to be. These devices could be switched state different electrical potentials have - and the board of the Cam (or something on the PC / laptop) zerschießen.

Then of course, recognizes the PC / laptop is no longer the Cam.

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Antwort von segler:

... is in any manual of firewire and sometimes even of USB devices. who can read, is beneficial.

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

I already have some manuals and instructions, because to "turn off the cam and the PC s.and connect them with each other" or something like that. Such manufacturers should really amounts for repairs and all the stress into account. Because I have the Firewire port s.meiner VX-1000 verbraten and since I use Firewire cards with high-voltage protection. Whether this is what good I can not say with ultimate because I'm not an electrician.

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Antwort von chrissi_410:

@ Host

Quote: . is in any manual of firewire and sometimes even of USB devices. who can read, is beneficial.

No, because you have no right!
Even I can read.
Read times above what I have written, everything should be turned off.
Who can read is a clear advantage!

I use my derivation Sonyfand somewhere I even notice that I have the IEEE cable should pull even before the cam is turned off ... Na, dann mach mal so! Get beautiful in it.

I take it no more!

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Yes, this is so. I've never done so.
Recently I had a VTR with firewire, there stood, one should note the order. Some tenants did not previously and had a few thousand euros to pay for the repair.

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Antwort von chrissi_410:

In the instructions that SonyHDR-HC9 is on Page 79 in Manual:
1.Vergewissern sure that the cam is not s.PC angschlossen
2.Schalten your PC
3.Legen the CD-ROM
4.bis 5.Klicke Install ... etc.
You 6.Betätigen Power to Play / Edit lit ...

Now:

7th Connect your camcorder and PC with the i-link cable (IEEE or Firewire cable)
8.Befolgen the instructions ... etc.

Exactly this approach, I would not recommend it!

I will in the future, the cable off both devices connect.
Then boot the PC, wait until he has ausgerödelt.
Then with fingers s.Heizung or Erdnungsblech s.Steckdose to selbstentladen.
Then turn on Cam.
Windows should recognize it now.

Exactly this approach advised me that the electronics, which is a long song of zerschossenen Firewire interfaces can sing.

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Antwort von cstuder:

Nonsense.

USB - Firewire cable and are physically designed so that the insertion of the first common ground between the devices is developed, this contact is first made.

See also: USB # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Safety

Happy Hot-pluggable I wish you all.
christian

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Antwort von segler:

yes, and on the ground may be potential balancing voltages of about 30V to flow. Now think what happens when the ground suddenly tension comes ...

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Antwort von segler:

"Anonymous" wrote: potential equalizing voltages of about 30V to flow

Tensions are not flowing.
Potential static electrical charges are in the range of several 1000 volts.

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Antwort von Markus:

"Anonymous" wrote: Potential static electrical charges are in the range of several 1000 volts.
Is it not rather be that it is precisely those electrostatic charges are those who cause problems? Firewire is hot-plug capability and I use the same tool for many years. Never went something breaks, but I always have all parties (including myself) before connecting the equipment ground.

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Antwort von segler:

When it was then would certainly synonymous USB concern.
I do more on it when inserted what happens, the times do not fit, weird or wrong in general to be used fits halt again not correct because I need a little violence, etc.
At least for me in the old building without proper grounding hats so far (Toi Toi Toi) with firewire yet hissed.

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Antwort von Markus:

Quote: ... the times do not fit ...
Yes, interestingly, there is firewire really bad (in every sense of cheap) cable! USB conspiracy theorists will certainly have an idea. ;-)

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Antwort von segler:

The fact is in any case, that is ruined by all the Firewire Electronics forums pulls. If one's time is passed, then we know at any rate, what will be authorized. I myself have never seen an already s.laufenden PC cable inserted into the current camera is inserted, but what you already know Precise.
Maybe play the ridiculously small synonymous Firewire Connections a role, if not quite all the connections at the same time it takes. Such a Hineinfummeln sloping into the socket with ausgeleierte sequential contact may indeed synonymous not just be the truth.

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Antwort von segler:

Fortunately there are still wires funtionierende fire, so synonymous has enough issues to discuss.
On the edge I would be interested in whether the capped Firewire cables synonymous with TV cards Antenenanschluß in the game.

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Antwort von edgar:

It is estimated that approximately 1-2% defective firewire ports become approximately 98% of the speeches on this topic identified.
In the various car forums, the percentage is demonstrably better. Since the error including recall campaign already up to 10%, then approximately 90% of the speeches on this subject caused

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Antwort von edgar:

"Anonymous" wrote: ... that approximately 1-2% defective firewire ports become approximately 98% of the speeches on this topic identified.


Yes and?
And if there is only 1% are - how great is the anger of a camcorder owner, if he ¬ 1000 for the Cam and now has spent his data for editing is no longer important in the PC "get"?

Can not turn desperate s.die forums in the hope that is still a suitable solution in store?
Is this thing durchgeschossen, there is no (cheap) option anymore.

The electronics technician (see gaaaannnz above in my first post) mentioned specifically that he garnicht electrostatic charge of the talks!
I mention it now because in the past contributions of which the speech was.
But that can easily remedy by using the heating or the grounding prong outlet s.einer sums (the latter I care to do).

I voted for this story, incidentally newly proud owner camcorder written in the hope that they are not here in a year to write "Help, my PC does not recognize the cam."

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Antwort von edgar:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I voted for this story, incidentally newly proud owner camcorder written in the hope that they are not here in a year to write "Help, my PC does not recognize the cam."


What so synonymous is very commendable!

Static electricity and ground loops are the one thing that can ever happen synonymous when all devices are off.

Mir hats fortunately nothing zerhaut.
Sonyempfiehlt example, in its XDCAM models, all with a great feature Firewire jack to connect an adapter to a small socket, so that no voltage of the Firewire card for Camera flowing.

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