Infoseite // Quality comparison images as XHA1s and HDC-SD707



Frage von petoko:


Hi,

I unfortunately do not get on with my question, which camcorder is right for my purposes, I turn now s.euch. So far I was only in animal photography and since it is mostly active in bird watching. But I would like to expand my range and record videos of them synonymous. Since buy cheap buy twice often say, what I want to avoid, now to my problem. If the quality of the recording at a Canon XHA1s visibly better than for instance a Panasonic HDC-SD707. Are two completely different systems, it is clear to me. Just try and I can compare it anywhere. Might even be synonymous difficult in a short time, right? the Canon ProfiCAM only the possibilities are much greater? Can (should) be the two camcorders compare at all?

The videos I've seen on youtube and similar sites make me not really aware. Are never the same two videos made with the system.

When in your opinion is worth a XHA1s for wildlife photography or quality differences are the inclusion of a HDC-SD707 marginal?

Professional level, I can not conduct the case for lack of time. Good foundation in terms of hardware, I would have won pleasure. And incorporate the one in the system is necessary, I understand. The time must be. I only shoot with the Canon with a gun to crack a nut? Or is the Panasonic just a toy?

As I said. In the area of video, I'm bloody Beginners! Excuse.

Thanks for your help.

Regards
Peter

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Antwort von markus-s:

Beginners as you will in the crucial situations s.hoc not achieve even with the one with the other cam a top result. Of course you can always compare everything - only provides the purely academic results.

Lend you somewhere sometimes one or other of yours - perhaps ideal for you a large pail, perhaps a little jacket pockets-camera as the SD707. If you are Beginners, you will not use many manual options ... whether out of convenience or out of inexperience. Experience comes with time - and then you know some synonymous what YOU expect of a camera.

Ultimately, an experienced filmmaker with (almost making) any good camera shots, a Beginners hinbekommen but is synonymous with a 50,000-euro equipment is limited and results can be quite overwhelmed when he WB, ND, Gain, Focus, audio levels, etc. in The moment "Setting blind" is required if the big cat in nature into the picture jumps. (If you naturally slow animals in a controlled environment such as Terrarium shoots, it is perhaps a little easier ...)

So: First of generally borrow cameras and test! And do not forget that the price of the camera I had a lot come accessories, until you can shoot so well.

Markus

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Antwort von petoko:

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your advice. I agree with you agree that there is a long process, so dominated by one part. Is similar in photography, if not synonymous as extensive natural. Where can I rent a XHA1s or similar and what costs so little about?

I do not want to annoy won again. I will put my question differently. We see a difference in the results for the two cams of someone when they are served, they can make fullest? And of course takes up the same.



Regards
Peter

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Antwort von markus-s:

We see differences in quality ... hmmm, where? Purely subjective, I would say: In the raw material of the expert recognizes, of course, the different wear (regardless of format). According to the Post, if necessary, color corrected and rendered as a DVD-Material: hard to the layman, not at all (with perfect full HD output chain, perhaps). Much more interesting is that the XH-A1s another work permits than the SD707. No better or worse, but different. But just the same You 'try s.Besten itself off times.

Depending on where you're at home, I would sometimes ask the local dealer of your trust has (often times already borrowed a demonstration model for small coin), or googling the Internet for rental. Alternatively, it can be a synonymous Video Club (university, school, VHS) / open channel / friend / ... , Enter in which you can possibly synonymous get a briefing on the Camera.

A Panasonic 700 (ne 300 synonymous it does when it's not about 50p or Wide Anglegeht), there are perhaps already in the circle of friends anyway - there is the instruction synonymous less important. A fully equipped XHA1s etc. of course, is rare and more likely to get a lender - Prices can be found on the Internet, I suspect s.ca. 50 ¬ / day upwards, longer stay cheaper if necessary. But still better than a bad buy: the decline in the value can be huge, see the SD707, the list was 999 ¬ and now goes for 730 ¬ over the counter (where it's really a great camera, have even one ... only just a bad buy eg if you need a pail or have special requirements).

For me, the nice s.der SD707 that I take them at any time and not just intentions / Converter / ... need. None is large and irritated when I film it. But an XH-A1s or similar I would take if I have more "technically" have to work and drag (and budget), play less a role.

Best regards
Markus

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Antwort von domain:

If you come here anyway of photography, then I would buy no more pure video camera, but fits a body of a video-capable DSLR, or DSL, the (possibly with adapter rings) to the existing lenses your "old" camera.
Especially in the telephoto zoom lens of the camcorder are in fact rather weak, but it may just completely different look with a good old fixed focal length.

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Antwort von cutaway:

Hi Peter,

that influence animal filmmaker is the zoom, the XH1A has 20 times zoom.
ND filters are also activated.

Greetings cutaway

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Antwort von Meggs:

"Petoko" wrote:
When in your opinion is worth a XHA1s for wildlife photography or quality differences are the inclusion of a HDC-SD707 marginal?


Probably not many here are an SD707 and an XHA1S possess or have experience with both camcorders. Direct comparison will find you hardly synonymous. Both are popular in her class and a lot sold. It is likely that both have their money value. The differences in the possible outcome will correspond roughly to the difference in price, are not marginal.
To XHA1S I can tell you that you familiarize yourself already have in order to get a top result. When you're ready and with the size and the weight is clear, with security a very good camcorder for animal filmmaker.

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Antwort von petoko:

Hi,

and again I am a bit thanks to your next contributions. I'll just borrow times ne small HD-Cam recent construction of someone. Times the handling test. If I come along with it brauchts yes no Henkelmann (although I can not imagine so keep a small part can be quiet long). My feeling tells me a larger case to be placed on the shoulder? or support in any other way I care more. Or I'm wrong idea because of the practice. The tripod freak, I'm not. The profitable, I do not like.

The image quality does not seem to be the co-factor for one of the systems.

The video components of the DSLR is not my opinion, no matter how mature. Since I do not think much of.

And the zoom? More than 10 or 12 - fold still seems to lead to visible loss of what I've read so far. But that was not related to the Henkel men like her it is addressed.

So is the motto practice only through practice to be replaced now to work with the Mini parts.

Please write to me next when using it one or the other. What are the benefits you'd like not to miss in the system comparison. Thanks s.alle. And nice evening.


Regards
Peter

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Antwort von domain:

"Petoko" wrote:
My feeling tells me a larger case to be placed on the shoulder? or support in any other way I care more. Or I'm wrong idea because of the practice. The tripod freak, I'm not. The profitable, I do not like.


Yes it really does not need no camcorder and Tierfilmerei. Without a tripod you have in this sector times basically no right to life :-))

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Antwort von petoko:

Quite so I do not see that. When I come synonymous Fotografiererei often without. I only meant that I prefer to work without a tripod. I have one and put it on. It restricts my flexibility but synonymous.

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Antwort von domain:

"Petoko" wrote: Quite so I do not see that. When I come synonymous Fotografiererei often without. I only meant that I prefer to work without a tripod. I have one and put it on. It restricts my flexibility but synonymous.

Well, you get clear in photography often from without, but in the videography are just other laws. Your flexibility is desired is then only at the expense of the audience, then that is because the need to look at your permanent Wacklerei and even with the shoulder mounted camcorder, especially in the telephoto range.
So either you build the outset of the quality or you can keep it better.

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Antwort von Meggs:

"Petoko" wrote: When I come synonymous Fotografiererei often without.

If you have enough light when shooting for ne sufficiently short exposure time you get a good sharp Stillimage synonymous with no tripod.
The same situation with video: You'll get a video with nothing but sharp still images, but the film wobbles so much that he wants to look at ninth.

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