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Frage von Freak-X:


Hi people ...

I want my camcorder buy s.Weihnachten following:

http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=189547

But I must now ask what, because I with this
Resolution jungle grade honestly completely overwhelmed
am. This has ever Camera 3 CCD sensors with 800,000 pixels each, or 540,000 pixels (rms). What does this mean for now
me? - How many pixels is the camera for now
actually occur? - How is that calculated? Lands on the tape is now 3 x 540,000 pixels, or how much? And what is with the remaining pixels? (If yes 800.00) - What actually disappear? - Say: How does this 3CCD technology and how many pixels will be ultimately at the
tape left?

Then I still have questions as to the highly praised HDV: What does it really? - I have times yesterday in Saturn's advice. The guy said that on the tape anyway, ultimately, only 720 x 756 pixels and no more land, if there is a synonymous HD Camera is. Is that so? - Why do we have HD, if the tape then just the usual Resolutionvon 720 x 576 pixels to land?
Or have I misunderstood the land as HD but more
Pixels on the tape? (For Mini-DV I do now) - for example, the Panasonic NV-GS 500: The HD has so synonymous CCD 's, (1.07 MP) Resolutionlandet but in which the film material is actually on the tape? - Approximately synonymous 720 x 576? - If yes, then where is the sense that, if the NV-GS 320 exactly the same Resolutionaufnimmt, synonymous if the CCD 's have a lower resolution? - Is not ashing? And yet, ultimately, if I download a video with 720 x 576 pixels
on an HDTV to watch TV, how will the picture be? - Heavily distorted? I told the guy in the Saturn, that it is entirely on the
Television ankäme; of the video should only be hochskallieren can and it would be almost no difference to normal PAL (720 x 576) can see, even though
the video will be highly expected mus. Is this so? - Can I
So my SD Recording synonymous easily on an HDTV device
look? - Or do I have eye cancer?

I would you all really very grateful if you give me exactly erklährt times, as with all the pixels runs - And while most everything you will mind. - Because I am completely overwhelmed grade ...

What have all the information about mean, what's behind it and what comes to me s.Ende you get?

Thanks in advance.

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Antwort von Markus73:

"Freak-X" wrote: How many pixels is the camera for now
actually occur?


All devices with simple PAL resolution (ie everything that is not "HD" is), is characterized in accordance with standard PAL 720 * 576 on. Camcorders, which have more pixels, for example, use this function for the photo or any existing electronic stabilizer. For the video itself makes no difference.

Quote: Then I still have questions as to the highly praised HDV: What does it really? - I have times yesterday in Saturn's advice. The guy said that on the tape anyway, ultimately, only 720 x 756 pixels and no more land, if there is a synonymous HD Camera is.
Well, the seller at Saturn tell much. As ever, I went in between, it was very amusing :-) No, that's true of course not, HDV has higher Resolutionals standard PAL.

Quote: And yet, ultimately, if I download a video with 720 x 576 pixels
on an HDTV to watch TV, how will the picture be? - Heavily distorted?

Not distorted, but stop depending on the signal processing more or less blurred (as synonymous, but a normal television picture in standard resolution), because the available Resolutiondes TV is not, or by interpolation getrickste be, but the missing pixels are not really synonymous herbeizaubern can.

Quote: I told the guy in the Saturn, that it is entirely on the
Television ankäme; of the video should only be hochskallieren can and it would be almost no difference to normal PAL (720 x 576) can see,

Hm, this statement is either nonsense or I've not understood correctly: there is already alone, therefore no difference to "normal PAL", as 720 * 576 is already "normal PAL" is.

Gruß,
Markus

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Freak-X" wrote: How many pixels is the camera for now
actually occur? - How is that calculated? Lands on the tape is now 3 x 540,000 pixels, or how much?

No - A TV-pixel consists of three sub-pixels for red, green and blue - each CCD is only the respective colors. Effectively, you have 540.00 pixels.
"Freak-X" wrote: And what is with the remaining pixels? (If yes 800.00) - What actually disappear?
They are usually (not always) for the Image Stabilization uses.
"Freak-X" wrote: ch habe mich gestern mal in Saturn's advice. The guy said that on the tape anyway, ultimately, only 720 x 756 pixels and no more land, if there is a synonymous HD Camera is. Is that so?
No - the "type" has no idea. HDV works with 1440 x 1080 pixels.
Since I have no desire, to write treatises: Please


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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Freak-X" wrote: ... me ... want to buy camcorder: http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?articleId=189547
Here are two tips: This offer seems to import any model that is not for the German market and was, therefore, may not synonymous as Menusprache mastered German, deutsches manual brings no or anything like that. Make sure you have a camera with the name suffix "EG-S" buy, then you are on the secure page. BTW: Both the EC-S as synonymous import version can be found from other suppliers substantially cheaper than the external.

"Freak-X" wrote: How does this 3CCD technology and how many pixels will ultimately be left on the tape?
On the tape land - if it is a PAL camcorder with standard resolution is - the same 720x576 pixels, as if the camera had only one sensor. The 3CCD technology, when the incident light through a prism into the three basic colors red, green and blue and then cut one of each color sensor is captured, however, makes for better color performanceund principle for better results in low light. The latter is now, however, is often fatal by the slope of the Manufacturer to very small sensors with many unnecessary pixels again.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Legeo:

and to ask what image you are on a
hdtv can expect: with the GS320 in about what
the normal tv channels on your hdtv deliver ....
A camera in HD resolution (HDV / AVCHD) on the other hand, what about you
usually when you buy a big HDTVs in the market demonstrates
because the sd-tv-pal program is not as sales.
gruß cj
ps. the gs500 has the same sd-pal video resolution such as the GS320.

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Antwort von WoWu:

[quote = "The camera has each 3 CCD sensors with 800,000 pixels each, or 540,000 pixels (rms). What does that mean for now
me? - How many pixels is the camera for now
actually occur? - How is that calculated? "]

With 3 CCDs, you have the full resolution of the sensor being made and a correspondingly high light sensitivity.
When a sensor, you can simply Resolutionder Camera neighborhoods because the sensors then the sg. Bayer filter and use a 2 pixel for green, one for red and blue one for using an image point.
A few tricks there are to the whole thing a bit to improve, but are rather the exception.
Also: 3 chip = number of pixels = number of pixels it
1 chip = number of pixels = approx. 1 / 4 of the pixels
(or, om reach an identical Resolutionzu you need a sensor with at least 4-fold higher resolution).

Unless CCD's into the Camera CMOS sensors are but you have to get the whole or from any other perspective to see ... but you wrote: CCDs.

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Antwort von Jan:

Since I'm once again glad that I was not the Saturn employees (I work so synonymous with the club) I - sleepyhead of the day!

But it is not entirely wrong, that the HD television has an influence on it as a PAL Picture 576 i look at him, but to speak, he could be the 414,720 pixels equivalent to 2 million, the seller will inflate the above title - nonsense . Basically, you should at HD television ownership but about whether you have a PAL 576i camcorder still buying.

PS: But watch out - Panasonic PAL cameras ala i 576 H 250 & SDR S 150, according Instructions 704x576 - what the mean (Overscan?) Is a mystery to me s.Ende but inevitably it must be 720x576.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Jan

... what do you think about the new "HD ready 1080p" label ... ?

Sometimes I think there's anywhere in the world (probably in Germany) is a marketing company that is nothing else to do, when such a thing as "HD Ready" Full HD "or just now HD Ready 1080p 'strategies. And the seller can pay for it.
But now I regret the people synonymous, so inflationary as the theme, I think HD was never an issue in the electric market.

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes, Wolfgang is not bad history.

Even worse I think but the Full HD sticker on a SonySR 7 - which works with 1440x1080, or when competitors Panasonic SD 5 - as in FULL HD & the same data at the same time recording a memory card is not FULL HD?

SD 1 (1440x1080) 13 Mbps CBR = 4 GB to 40 minutes recording time.
SD 5 (1920x1080) 13 Mbps CBR = 4 GB to 40 minutes recording time?

It can hardly be due to the 5 SD 5.1 sound now no more and now has only 2 channel allowed - so much space, you can not save.

Schlimme time, well I must as a seller because of - not to think

MEGA FULL HD HIGH COLOR SOUND Bombast comes probably soon.

VG

Jan

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Antwort von WoWu:

.. where x-freak, of course, quite bös' accrued is ... because I would have preferred s.jemand want to come, so the Forum is committed.
... But how dissolve because a sticker on problem?
What sign is actually on? Same codec? Because AVC könte the so synonymous scaling be?!

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Antwort von webrider:

Maybe even a demand:

Could the label because synonymous mean that TV devices that do not bear this Lable de Interlacer more?

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Antwort von Jan:

"HD ready 1080p" label of Sony but was not it?

I have the times a few weeks ago in the Sony catalog read why now suddenly HD Ready 1080p, already forgotten - yes Television are less my specialty.

In the SD 1 & 5 I was really surprised because Pana, my data comes from Pana original documents, it is at the SD 5 continue to AVC, the files still have the file extension MTS.

Who can explain to me now, why now all at once at the SD 5 Full HD with the same / m (data rate, CBR, codec, memory card, recording time) as for older SD 1 is - the I would describe as God.

VG
Jan

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