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Frage von AmateurProfi:


I am looking for a possible small camcorder, the s.besten has room in his pocket, it will occur so that no great pictures or movies, for example: we just had at work after heavy rain and hail, a flood, and since it would have been nice to have a reminder.

Has anyone a tip for me or experience with something?

I saw the other day by chance a Creative Vado and seen now synonymous with night shot a test video:
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Antwort von actaion:

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,617899,00.html

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

precisely these two synonymous, I have already found, or knows someone alternatives?

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Antwort von Büschel:

"actaion" wrote: http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/tech/0,1518,617899,00.html

Such a waste I would not buy genuine. Eye cancer danger!

To the thread creator:

I would advise you to buy maybe a cheap trouser pocket camera, such a cheap Canon Ixus. Power synonymous (reasonably good photos, if you do not always want to film) and the video clips should surely be better than that of those wannabe cameras.

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

"Fan" wrote:

To the thread creator:

I would advise you to buy maybe a cheap trouser pocket camera, such a cheap Canon Ixus. Power synonymous (reasonably good photos, if you do not always want to film) and the video clips should surely be better than that of those wannabe cameras.



I've been thinking about it synonymous, but for example: the Ixus models are 1 bigger than a Creative Camera and 2 Do you think that the video is better than an Ixus of the Creative Vado HD, so I can not imagine.

In the following test film quality looks really not sooo bad:

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Amateur professional" wrote:
In the following test film quality looks really not sooo bad:


Is this the right link?
The cars are huebsch (; if one recognizes that), but the film is absolute junk - even by amateur standards. Sowas get with any cell phone out, since one does not need a camera.
An archaeologist would be thrilled - so many artifacts find None of excavation.
I wonder how this left-right se gezitter hinbekommen .. Fair shake and jiggle shots "from the hip" in all directions.

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Antwort von actaion:

[quote = "Daigoro"] [
The cars are nice (; if one recognizes that), but the film is absolute scrap - even by hobby standards. sowas get with every cellphone out, because there is no need a digital camera.
an archaeologist would be thrilled - so many artifacts in archaeological None.
I ask myself how this left-right se gezitter hinbekommen .. tremble and shake normally received "from the hip" in all directions. [/ quote]

But since you are exaggerating. Secure the pivot are bad gemacht.Auch we see that the color performanceunecht and konstrastumfang the camera is low. Artifacts are abundant as synonymous, but they can be synonymous of youtube in debt.
But sharpness and details are considerably more than it is with a cell phone or a cheap riff 70x-zoom-SD camcorder.

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Antwort von ennui:

Synonymous I'm looking at doing this, as small, inexpensive, preferably with AA Batteries (Batteries and instead of proprietary USB charging;) flexibility. possible with tolerable image quality, and 25fps, not 30 Because some models of Panasonic gabs with prop. Battery, however, is that synonymous even cheaper?

In this context, nor a technical question:

Many low-cost camcorder indeed refer to 30fps, but then have a TV (out of Pal TV; 25fps). The picture appears there smoothly. How does it work?

I'm assuming the TV-OUT-Picture analog capture with 25 fps, will not lead to satisfactory results ....

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

"Daigoro" wrote:
Is this the right link?
The cars are huebsch (; if one recognizes that), but the film is absolute junk - even by amateur standards. Sowas get with any cell phone out, since one does not need a camera.
An archaeologist would be thrilled - so many artifacts find None of excavation.
I wonder how this left-right se gezitter hinbekommen .. Fair shake and jiggle shots "from the hip" in all directions.


As he has the right left zitterei got done ", I wonder synonymous, he has probably the thing attached to any kind of self-made tripod ....
:-D and I suspect you looked at it without high quality!?
It is not about the make of the film, but with the Picture. So a cell phone so the anähernd a video filming, I would like to know that I would just look sowas ....??

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Antwort von Büschel:

[quote = "amateur professional"] "Fan" wrote:


I've been thinking about it synonymous, but for example: the Ixus models are 1 bigger than a Creative Camera and 2 Do you think that the video is better than an Ixus of the Creative Vado HD, so I can not imagine.


Do you think the Ixus big? I do not. About the size of a pack of cigarettes is still ok. Of course it's synonymous smaller. Casio has since synonymous what was on offer. And yes, I once dared to say that the films of such cameras are better than those of Youtube-Trashcams. After all, here comes a real synonymous optics used (not just a piece of glass, or plastic), which nen absorbs little light ...

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

I've seen two test films of the IXUS 100 IS:

Daylight:


in the dark:


With pocket-sized memory card, it gives the camera has less than 300, - Euro

Does anyone know another alternative

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Antwort von Büschel:

Amazon is currently offering the Casio Exilim Z-150 for 110 ¬. Has even Wide Angleund 4x optical zoom and a dedicated video button.

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Antwort von ennui:

Please do not laugh: Aiptek Pocket Cam 8800th AA Batteries, VGA resolution, 25fps in AFS as mp4 container. Gibts few isolated cases of the net. No idea what that is, digital Super8? Optics is intended scrap, but for 40 euros, I have probably done nothing wrong, yesterday ordered.

Edit: As in the other thread already suggested: You should make a collection of all time 25fps recent models, but the issue appears more often.

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Antwort von Büschel:

For the thing itself is 40 ¬ too much. CMOS sensor with 5MP? This is going to wobble again as Sau ... for 100 ¬ you get so many simple cameras that are small and make better shots. Since it does not take such a scrap.

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Antwort von ennui:

Why, 6 megapixel digicam were indeed the golden era, and only with the "higher" resolutions we went downhill.

Unfortunately I do not know if these pictures here are really of the POCKET CAM 8800, or of the DV 8800, the outputs of seemingly synonymous Aiptek, double price, 30fps.



With something like that for 40 euros, I would certainly be completely satisfied. As a fixed focus camera for a very rough stakes, where it does not break your heart when it breaks down. Or the one always loose in the backpack or pocket, the so looking like this. Or for children. The combination of me looking for AA Batteries, VGA, 25fps I've found nowhere else.

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Antwort von Büschel:

Excuse me - with this augenkrebserregendem chatter you'd be satisfied? Ok. You might. But even when seen from YT shit.

And what has the photo resolution of the sensor to do with the image quality? Good 6MP cameras have cost ¬ S.200 up and had CCD sensors, CMOS is no scrap. At that time, CMOS sensors actually cheaper cheese. Today, they are indeed better, but there are certain circumstances still have the rolling shutter effect.

As for the camera at least 40 ¬, you can just forget the thing. Point.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Amateur professional" wrote:
:-D and I suspect you looked at it without high quality!?
It is not about the make of the film, but with the Picture.


Yes, "HQ HD" .. the Picture is scrap.
Can s.dem neukomprimieren through Youtube, of course, lie if that was not delivered in the appropriate format, but look at the floor s.oder the hard edges s.den cars, or moving people.
A single artifact storm.

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

@ Tufts: if you is the quality of no preference, why not.


Since I want synonymous partially filmed in mild obscurity, has now convinced me of this test movie, I think there is no other one in such a tiny tot with the light conditions yet get a better picture.




When None is more a tip, I'll buy me and they'll buy on the Internet for approximately 250 euros.

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Antwort von AmateurProfi:

they have now gester bought for 280 euros in the business, if you film at dusk, although it is easier synonymous "one artifact storm":-D but I am still very satisfied.

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