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Frage von Biggie61:


Had previously tried the DC50 - for interior shots completely unusable, so a bad Lowligt behavior I've never seen. Artifacts without end, also very strong in strip lights. Right again s.den Dealers returned and ordered the HV20.

With 25p and cine mode in the HV20 at Lowlight simply sensational. No noise, no artifacts, very clean with a Picture vs.. Daylight, of course, somewhat reduced resolution. I think even better than the HC-3 and the XM1, which I had earlier times. Excellent stabilizer, vs. the. SonyHC of the EIS-3 already s.dem slight telephoto very positive notices. Did the HV20 s.einen Sanyo Z4 officials connected, as is a poor stabilizer immediately. The EIS of the HC-3 is in the telephoto range can hardly be used. Also positive for the HV20: Although a bit skinny Zoomrädchen effect is a bit of practice Kriechzoom with no problem. When HC-1 and HC-3 is a slow zoom not possible (for me personally, already a knock-out criterion).

What s.der HV20 is not so nice: Comparison with other Canon camcorders, the quality is very questionable. Battery rattle and the display is in my copy unevenly lit (dark place on the left below). The plastic cover over the HDMI connection is a joke and poorly mounted. The noises from the drive are the loudest that I ever in a camcorder heard. The design is perhaps not so important, but not synonymous beautiful. Hopefully, the successor in these score improved.

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Antwort von Yann:

Did my HV20 yesterday and can only agree with you against the bad sound and the drive noise, I took the MKE-300 Sennheiser of growth.
Otherwise I find the 25P mode synonymous klasse ... because this is not the same extremely sterile Digital Picture to light:).

Well I think I have much practice with the cam in order to work clean.

Mfg

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Antwort von MaikJ:

"Biggie61" wrote:
What s.der HV20 is not so nice: Comparison with other Canon camcorders, the quality is very questionable. Battery rattle and the display is in my copy unevenly lit (dark place on the left below). The plastic cover over the HDMI connection is a joke and poorly mounted. The noises from the drive are the loudest that I ever in a camcorder heard. The design is perhaps not so important, but not synonymous beautiful. Hopefully, the successor in these score improved.


Hi!

The handling of the camera I find synonymous not optimal but you seem a "Monday-device" to have caught:

- I have no Helligkeisunterschiede in the display
- The bomb sits firmly Battery (yet)
- Drive only noise I hear about my minimal synonymous HK plant

However, a negative effect on me that the microphone aufnimt everything possible not only that which is beyond of 2.00 m BEFORE Camera resides. The internal Micros are so synonymous at the top of the camera which I can not understand. Is the synonymous you so?

Otherwise, the picture quality on the HC 3100 projector means Playstation3 or HDMI (the cover is synonymous, in my view, a joke) absolutely brilliant and keeps loose in daylight synonymous with Discovery HD with.

Genial!

Gruss

Maik

Unbelievable

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Antwort von Asket:

Hi,

have been a few days with the HV20 the transition of analogue to digital and must be completed Hobbyfilmerei me a little train. The camera I have because of the many positive reviews synonymous purchased here in the forum so far and am also excited synonymous if I have the full picture quality did not even enjoy it.
For processing:
- The rattle of the battery, I can confirm
- The drive noises, I have not noticed, as did my analog Sony More drauf
- When you off or Play mode, the camera may shake, rattle in the front area, where the lens sits, as if the whole mechanism as loose in the housing is located. In the recording mode, the noise disappeared. Can you confirm that?

Many greetings

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Antwort von Yann:

"Ascetic" wrote: Hi,
- The rattle of the battery, I can confirm
- The drive noises, I have not noticed, as did my analog Sony More drauf
- When you off or Play mode, the camera may shake, rattle in the front area, where the lens sits, as if the whole mechanism as loose in the housing is located. In the recording mode, the noise disappeared. Can you confirm that?

Many greetings


Hi, everyone has a rattle, hab mich mal in HV20 forum around ... it is not so that the Battery can rausfallen ^ ^, but a slight rattle ore when the camera shake ... just like the slight rattle in front s.Lens what you hear ... that comes of the automatic shutter.
But I think we should not be synonymous with hard errors which it is finally no Semi Pro Cam is and what the HV20 hold very positive (See synonymous Aktiv Digital Video) is the Brilliant picture quality in this price class and stop functions as 25P or movies look.
The Internal Microphone is not particularly ... that is why I have my Sennheiser MKE - 300 increased and am absolutely satisfied.

@ MaikJ
Biggie has no mounting machines erwischt ... maybe it is you have not exactly noticed that the battery a little rattle ... So not really bomb sits Fest ... differences in the brightness of the display are synonymous normal, since Canon is not really a high quality panel is installed (That I see right away because I already had some tft's).
And the drive noise maybe you just fall on minimal but if one is very sensitive to what are then drops it to a more on. But small tip if the drive noise should disturb ... Manual control of the sound will be very much.

Mfg

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Antwort von ruessel:

It does not rattle the battery but the "SteadyShot". Once the camera is switched on and the optical power levels is the rattle gets away.

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Antwort von Yann:

"trunk" wrote: It does not rattle the battery but the "SteadyShot". Once the camera is switched on and the optical power levels is the rattle gets away.

Ahhh, but the Battery is not synonymous bomb Fest ...

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Antwort von Asket:

Thanks for the advice, I now synonymous habs "officially".
In the manual is in troubleshooting section under Misc., The rattle represents not a malfunction.
I just wanted to know whether this is normal, does it disturb me and the Cam gets so synonymous no minus point.

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Antwort von MaikJ:

"Yann" wrote: "Ascetic" wrote: Hi,
- The rattle of the battery, I can confirm
- The drive noises, I have not noticed, as did my analog Sony More drauf
- When you off or Play mode, the camera may shake, rattle in the front area, where the lens sits, as if the whole mechanism as loose in the housing is located. In the recording mode, the noise disappeared. Can you confirm that?

Many greetings


Hi, everyone has a rattle, hab mich mal in HV20 forum around ... it is not so that the Battery can rausfallen ^ ^, but a slight rattle ore when the camera shake ... just like the slight rattle in front s.Lens what you hear ... that comes of the automatic shutter.
But I think we should not be synonymous with hard errors which it is finally no Semi Pro Cam is and what the HV20 hold very positive (See synonymous Aktiv Digital Video) is the Brilliant picture quality in this price class and stop functions as 25P or movies look.
The Internal Microphone is not particularly ... that is why I have my Sennheiser MKE - 300 increased and am absolutely satisfied.

@ MaikJ
Biggie has no mounting machines erwischt ... maybe it is you have not exactly noticed that the battery a little rattle ... So not really bomb sits Fest ... differences in the brightness of the display are synonymous normal, since Canon is not really a high quality panel is installed (That I see right away because I already had some tft's).
And the drive noise maybe you just fall on minimal but if one is very sensitive to what are then drops it to a more on. But small tip if the drive noise should disturb ... Manual control of the sound will be very much.

Mfg


So again:

My Battery stuck and do not rattle if the illumination of the LCD is even with me, I do not need glasses.

I hear the sound more than 5 channels of a Cabbasse which sets out all the details of fine plays.

The sound of Zoom / drive is minimal for me. I'm heavily damaged by my Canon i 730 in this relationship as "atrocious" deserved. My HV20 is IHMO within the normal range.

Gruss

Maik

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Antwort von Yann:

Well, we've probably both have a definition for adnere rattle ... I mean not that the Battery shortly before rausfallen or that it makes disturbing noises ... naja ich werd now synonymous but not as drum rum discuss I know that I have no device on Monday, just as Biggie61 ...

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Antwort von MaikJ:

Hi Yann!

I would you like your device is not synonymous maggoty make only not synonymous, it is okay if you put your "problems" as Normalzusand performers. I tested again yesterday. Against a white sheet or canvas of my black mask. The illumination is absolutely ok, bright spots, I have none.

The Battery has a game which is minimal but it is not noticeable if I do not synonymous, the camera shake. Maybe change the time or the wear of this someday.

The only thing I have to move the camera feel is the optical Image Stabilization.

I would try an exchange may halt or to live.

And I do not think that one of my camera especially when a lot of effort in the production did.

Gruss & still have fun with the Cam

Maik

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Antwort von Addie:

Power times the cassette housing to collect the cartridge out and shaking the camera slightly. Because you can then see what (and others) rattle. Any stabilizers or so? In any event, two movable metal pin or something similar. Anyway, the MIR so struck yesterday. But that makes me really nothing ...

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Antwort von Yann:

@ MaikJ, yes the one with Battery synonymous so I felt like you are describing grad ...
And with the display ... there are no synonymous Despeckle ^^... ehr Lichthöfe ... but not much ... and I would not be synonymous to the screen when I use so that a film project would like to realize ... but equally s.den external monitor connected.

Mfg

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Antwort von michael_h:

Hi,

then I will connect times:

I find the camera, up from the it not for my big hands built, in the sensational picture quality.

For me, the bigger battery, which I've dazubestellt also play and rattle. The original battery, I had not yet assembled. Should the price category do not actually his.

Gruß,

Michael

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Antwort von michael_h:

Hi,

I have first recording times, which I mentioned in the Motor City have made s.einem HD-TV with 90 cm diagonal via HDMI cable considered.

I am a long hingeschlagen so razor-sharp pictures and such a richness of detail .... WAHNSINN. I'm thrilled and would like nothing more. I think that I am not particularly long in DV mode will cut :-)) and hope that the DVD media will soon be favorable rates are available ...

Gruß,

Michael

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Antwort von Yann:

I now get Raynox HD 6600 ... Tomorrow will s.Samstag or so a few times comparatively shots ...
My first impression is very positive, zooming is virtually until the end ... I have the AF according to the simple manual mode and it works tadelos ... not just stop as soon as I. AF.
But now well, I do think s.Wochenende the Tread on.

Mfg

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Antwort von Yann:

So here are the comparison shots with and without HD6600
http://www.hv20.com/showpost.php?p=3154&postcount=14

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Antwort von Ulysses:

Could you with the MKE-300 drive noise completely eliminated? Or is that not possible?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"MaikJ" wrote: (...) And keep in daylight with loosely synonymous with Discovery HD. (...)

;)

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Antwort von segelfilmer:

"trunk" wrote: It does not rattle the battery but the "SteadyShot". Once the camera is switched on and the optical power levels is the rattle gets away.

Not quite, the rattle will be less, but it may be synonymous during the recording rattle. Have here a small video clip about it:
http://www.segelfilmer.de/Videofilmen/Videotests/ Canon HV20-rattle-Klappergeraeusch.html

Best regards - Thomas

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