Mitsubishi introduces the first laser television before
Newsmeldung von slashCAM: November 2008
Mitsubishi introduces the first laser television in frontof thomas - 30 Nov 2008 14:21:00 The 165 cm wide and $ 6999 expensive LaserVue is the first commercial laser HD television on the market. He is praised as energy-saving (in comparison to plasma and LCD TVs the same size only 1 / 3 of consumption) and is brilliant colors and a previously unattainable Gamut hold - achieved through the projection with the help of color lasers. First Review are very positiv. Vielleicht also eine interessante neue Display -Technologie, wenn erst einmal die Prices unten sind.
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Antwort von domain:
Is it still the case that laser television is still back and projectors are also rows of rear describe so s.Stelle of cathode rays in the tube stop laser beams to "screen" will be thrown?
Antwort von MacPro:
"it has the widest color gamut of any set Gary's ever tested, far beyond the HDTV Rec 709 broadcast standard:" Reds are so intense and crimson they're indescribable. Ditto for yellows, purple and other colors and hues. "
What kind of idiocy. A perfect TVMonitor may not be the "most colorful colors" but show the correct, ie exactly those which appear in Rec 709 have been defined! And can the LCD, plasma and Co has been a long time. Anyone who has a "WideGamut" monitor at home, can certainly sing that song, how unnatural a gaudy painted skin, which actually (as 99% of all sources) for the display to sRGB monitors determined.
It remains only the argument of the electricity savings and, if not themselves own systemic weaknesses, the lack of Rainbow and Solarisationseffekt as if from the plasma.
Antwort von domain:
The gamut of a display capability is actually something else to understand, for example: "When certain colors can not be displayed within a particular color model, those colors are said to be out of gamut. For example, pure red which is contained in the RGB color gamut model is out of gamut in the CMYK model." I can already imagine that laser with even purer and more intense colors in the outer areas of the numerically defined absolute color space are represented. In the inner areas are defined at any point all the white color (actually Color models) the same, so the more delicate skin tones such as synonymous, otherwise the display is wrong or controlled (eg lack of xv-Colorflag) The only question is whether such extreme colors, which are extremely rare, especially relevant to the overall impression is. Well we will see how things develop, the Stomersparnis is of course an argument.
Antwort von MacPro:
"domain" wrote:
The gamut of a display capability is actually something else to understand, for example: "When certain colors can not be displayed within a particular color model, those colors are said to be out of gamut. For example, pure red which is contained in the RGB color gamut model is out of gamut in the CMYK model." I can already imagine that laser with even purer and more intense colors in the outer areas of the numerically defined absolute color space are represented.
The HDTV color space, which is almost exactly the sRGB color space, is a relatively small space. Any halfway decent display no preference whether tube, LCD or plasma is placed in a position to this color to represent 100%. Even in the outer edges. Since there is no difference. Also, the Farbdifferenzierung s.sich is rather a question of the bit resolution of the display. But since any halfway normal video source eh only 8 bits per channel, is synonymous since there is no reason for a more finely differentiated than just to control ... 256 gradations per channel. Even a light for all common current displays.
"domain" wrote:
In the inner areas are defined at any point all the white color (actually Color models) the same, so the more delicate skin tones such as synonymous, otherwise the display is wrong or controlled (eg lack of xv-Colorflag)
Even. This means that an extended color space only make sense if synonymous in this expanded color space has been coded. Otherwise-> Actor with Sunburn ..
"domain" wrote:
The only question is whether such extreme colors, which are extremely rare, especially relevant to the overall impression is.
There are examples that show how often it occurs in natural sceneries that of sRGB Color impossible occurs. That is really little. Lively colors would only be significant in extremely colored (artificial) Shooting or comics to see.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
With all due respect: The message is
Antwort von domain:
True, but one must say that the LCD / TFT technology can not stop there be. After all, we notice that the liquid crystals are trying to take full backlight as much as possible the most effective abzudunkeln. All this creates unnecessary waste and leads to relatively poor black levels, the operating principle and is therefore bad. In the long run, they have no chance, but let's see what comes after.
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"domain" wrote:
but let's see what comes after.
Och - the LCDs are just as, thanks to LEDs Lighting always economical and blacker, the plasma will be more economical - as is the end of the flagpole has not yet been reached ...
Antwort von MacPro:
As LCD and plasma as synonymous their own weaknesses, there is certainly a chance for a new system. But this will only prevail if it is synonymous priced in the same league will play. Because of this are the inadequacies of the mass to be negligible. And the question is whether LaserTV really do not have their own display error has inne.
The black level issue with LCDs but will only be properly resolved when the LED lighting matrix synonymous around the magnitude of the number of pixels. Otherwise it will be forced to more or less visible radiation in the form of light yards, when active is dimmed.
Furthermore, the angle of IPS and PVA panels are quite good but far from perfect, which in times of ever-larger screen sizes and constant observation intervals is not negligible. And then perhaps the problem of motion sharpness, all hold-type displays have. A laser beam could be synonymous vermutl. superior results.
Antwort von PeterM:
There are now very few areas where the advantages of the Mitsubishi laser TV coming to bear. Mitshubishi itself seems ihem own product can hardly be trusted, at least, the devices are in most markets, not available. I hate the way Two classes only indirectly (device not s.gleichen place) to compare.
Laser TV Mitshibishi .................. 4500 RGM SonyX LED Backlight
Space. In comparison to a standard LCD convinced first of the huge space. But if the latest x 4500 as an add Reference, subject to the device with HDTV material very close. In comic, however, with the KaserTV achieve amazing effects. In practice, slight advantage for Laser TV
Angle.
One would suspect that the systemic nature of an LCD the worse Blcikwinkelabhängigkeit shows. The gegentel is the case. due because Rückpropinzip, the brightness at LaserTV fairly quickly.
Sony Advantage
Black level
Clearly, the domain of the LaserTV but synonymous of his x 4500 LED can be dimmed. In most settings, such as night shots are the devices are not far apart. For the benefit of the extreme disadvantage LaserTV images. for example, almost white moon and stars. Then comes the LCD is no longer with.
Advantage LaserTV
Brightness.
Here appears the Sonyeideutig brighter.
Power consumption. Clear advantage for Laser TV in about 50% to vergeich RGB LED LCD
Optics.
Solo Rückproprinzip prevents the flat monitor. Ultimately, the laser TV "TV" with appropriate depth, in contrast to Sonyx 4500
It would still tasächlichen for the lifetime of the green laser diodes and DPSS in Mitsubishi have no experience values.
Conclusion: Even in the next year we will Laser TV will remain a niche product
Antwort von Quadruplex:
"Peterm" wrote:
Mitshubishi itself seems ihem own product can hardly be trusted, at least, the devices are in most markets, not available.
This is rather what with the no longer existing distribution facilities to do so. They have it at the beginning of the 1990s, its consumer products can fall asleep. As you look at the place in the greed-is-stupid-markets now must buy, that would be for only one TV plenty futile endeavor. At least in Germany were never synonymous Dealers Rückpros sale. Even with only 17 cm deep and really good, recent models of Thomson (50/61/70 DSZ 648) dusty in the stores.
"Peterm" wrote:
Power consumption. Clear advantage for Laser TV in about 50% to vergeich RGB LED LCD
Would you as exact numbers? When the LED backlight, the Sony (55 inches) at medium brightness (which corresponds to an average Picture) between 100 and 130 watts (230-V version) need.
"Peterm" wrote:
Conclusion: Even in the next year we will Laser TV will remain a niche product
