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Frage von vonlahnstein__:
Dezember 2006

Hello,

I have a video clip for a musician rotated, whom he instructed and paid for it.
Only times removed, the song creates the breakthrough.
Do I get a little more of the profit of my pictures from?
How is that legal? Who owns the video after the sale?
Can I perhaps something contractually regulate?

Mfg,
vonlahnstein



Antwort von wolferl69:

What have you contracted with the musicians agreed?

The Urherber are and you remain, synonymous after the sale.
He can, however, with the video will reflect what he wants if it is not contractually regulated. So what synonymous profit & Co. is concerned.



Antwort von wolferl69:

I think this is not correct, with payment for the goods, the property s.den buyer. Not every company can produce the DVDs are synonymous acquires the rights s.deren content.








Antwort von wolferl69:

PS: Take big film companies, which provide ongoing contracts in special studios. These are lump-sum compensation, and if so then millions will be earned as a special studio garnicht it.



Antwort von PowerMac:

"vonlahnstein__" wrote:
Hello,

I have a video clip for a musician rotated, whom he instructed and paid for it.
Only times removed, the song creates the breakthrough.
Do I get a little more of the profit of my pictures from?
How is that legal? Who owns the video after the sale?
Can I perhaps something contractually regulate?

Mfg,
vonlahnstein


Heaven! Who has made since the business? We or you?
As it is, it determines that the Deal have made. Rein in principle why you should be a commercial success at something for your video get? You sell it, depending on the contract of use and copyright. That can regulate hair small. Say just the video and it must distribute online. Once a greater success occurs, you get a normal salary for the production of the video nachbezahlt. To enter you have the right to use but s.die from record company. The can then MTV or Viva show, etc. Only they can change it.

PS: Most likely, the tape does not create breakthrough;)



Antwort von wolferl69:

"PowerMac" wrote:
"vonlahnstein__" wrote:
Hello,

I have a video clip for a musician rotated, whom he instructed and paid for it.
Only times removed, the song creates the breakthrough.
Do I get a little more of the profit of my pictures from?
How is that legal? Who owns the video after the sale?
Can I perhaps something contractually regulate?

Mfg,
vonlahnstein


Heaven! Who has made since the business? We or you?
As it is, it determines that the Deal have made. Rein in principle why you should be a commercial success at something for your video get? You sell it, depending on the contract of use and copyright. That can regulate hair small. Say just the video and it must distribute online. Once a greater success occurs, you get a normal salary for the production of the video nachbezahlt. To enter you have the right to use but s.die from record company. The can then MTV or Viva show, etc. Only they can change it.

PS: Most likely, the tape does not create breakthrough;)


Never heard, never seen, but already know that it has no success.
Even just had bad luck in life?



Antwort von PowerMac:

Pure milk girls statistics.



Antwort von camworks:

"Anonymous" wrote:
PS: Take big film companies, which provide ongoing contracts in special studios. These are lump-sum compensation, and if so then millions will be earned as a special studio garnicht it.

which is not exactly true. in germany there is precisely for this case a clause in the Copyright Act:

Quote:
§ 32a copyright
Further involvement of the author

(1) Did the author of another to secure a license conditions, which cause the agreed consideration, taking into account the overall relations of the author to the other in a striking disproportionate to the income and benefits from the use of the work, it is the other at the request of the author, showing a modification of the contract einzuwilligen, by the author in the circumstances more appropriate participation is granted. Whether the contractor the Height of the revenue generated or benefits previously seen, or had previously seen, is negligible.


ps: this is not legal advice, but my opinion is irrelevant.



Antwort von wolferl69:

That is rubbish!
If I produce something then I am the originator, without question.
If I were but in a job with pay something produced, so are the rights of the client.

Music Videos (Viva, etc.): Those who believe that because the cameraman so has created a video, any rights acquired.



Antwort von camworks:

believe does not know. again: in Germany copyrights are unsalable. Also, he has probably produced the entire video, ie concept, turning and cutting. me there is certainly added the necessary amount for a given factory.

who are not sure is should become a lawyer specializing in media and go for advice.



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Anonymous" wrote:
That is rubbish!
If I produce something then I am the originator, without question.
If I were but in a job with pay something produced, so are the rights of the client.

Music Videos (Viva, etc.): Those who believe that because the cameraman so has created a video, any rights acquired.


That is almost correct. You have both partially right.

The copyright (ie, the intellectual property) but never goes from the production company s.den mission donors. Donor procurement and production companies are working together. Authors, creators and owners of intellectual (right) of the work but remains always the contract provider. The copyright remains there forever. It then goes to the idea of a video by the author and order plates, described in greater detail, or is still open. The executor only production company, as its name suggests and produces virtually only the spiritual idea of a work.
The cameraman will turn his image through his law firm from s.seine employment.



Antwort von camworks:

depends on the extent to which the production company was involved s.der development. it is only the executive organ, then agrees to what you're saying.

but that is almost never the case. In general, the concept of the production develops, the visual design and the cut as well. So in the regular production of the company synonymous with copyright. involved actors, singers or anyone else because im bild rumturnt have often miturheberschaft, if what they do, the necessary amount schöpfung achieved. apart of composer and band members, which of course the copyright s.dem piece of music and have so synonymous co-authors are s.dem video.

the production company sold off with the conclusion of the contract the desired usage rights s.den customer.

no more and no less.








Antwort von PowerMac:

I have edited. You were too fast. Sure, if all of the performers production company is made, the copyright for it and they sold only right to use next. Very often, the copyright but under the quasi-hand s.den payer "sold".



Antwort von vonlahnstein__:

Thank you for the many replies.

True, I as a "production company executive" had almost everything done (the image, cut, attitudes, ideas).
So let me just re-use rights.
That is, I insist that I s.einer best. Number (which I can determine self?) S.Kopien again mitverdiene.
And the issue is, if I correctly understand from of your discussion.

Sure, this is rather unlikely that the song is known, but not impossible! :-) He is really good ...



Antwort von Bamboo:

Quote:
I may self?


It is your production and your contract, you can determine almost everything. Whether the artists will sign him is another matter ... sowas but yes you can negotiate:)



Antwort von Bamboo:

"PowerMac" wrote:
The cameraman will turn his right s.eigenen Picture by its employment from s.seine Company.

Oh, the cameraman was filmed. I thought the singer was filmed. Normally yes the cameraman behind the camera.

Matthias



Antwort von camworks:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"PowerMac" wrote:
The cameraman will turn his right s.eigenen Picture by its employment from s.seine Company.

Oh, the cameraman was filmed. I thought the singer was filmed. Normally yes the cameraman behind the camera.

Matthias


;-)
you see, these formulas can happen if the layman has a thematic subject of which they have no or insufficient knowledge have ...



Antwort von Bamboo:

"vonlahnstein__" wrote:
That is, I insist that I s.einer best. Number (which I can determine self?) S.Kopien again mitverdiene. And the issue is, if I correctly understand from of your discussion.

Because here you have not the whole truth has been said, I still add a bit: First off, there is a plant, namely the play of the musicians. Since it is a composer and a text writer, or synonymous both in one person. Now you come into the game: Thou shalt filming the existing plant, so the existing musical works through your creative performance (film) to connect a new plant. The original facility has two authors, and the video as a linked plant has three authors, so as you come to the composer and the lyricist, nor added. Consequently, you have synonymous right to participate s.wirtschaftlichen success. So do not s.wirtschaftlichen success of the musical works, but only s.wirtschaftlichen success of the video, because you do not co-authors of musical works are, but co-author of the cinematographic work. In practice, however, because the problem that the music channels are not for the performance of the clips, but for the performance of the music to pay them because the clip is for promotional purposes free of charge will be made available. So it is important that you have with your client an agreement to meet.

And if it is more of a shot than a concert video clip layout, although it would not be considered work, but in any case as a motion picture is protected, ie not until 70 years after your death, but only 50 years after the first performance or aura.

Matthias



Antwort von camworks:

agrees with me so.
but thou wouldst have the synonymous of s.schreiben home, then would not I as a lay person with some formulas rumschlagen need. ;-)

I've now set the times in my last posting entered so everything is together.

btw: are you doing now but with here? I thought you wanted nothing more to write?



Antwort von Bamboo:

"camworks" wrote:
btw: are you doing now but with here? I thought you wanted nothing more to write?

I'm another Matthias ... :-)

No, in the worst times: In itself, I had made to me yesterday, here was never to write again because I have the reactions to my (in my view) legitimate request in the said sub-forum was completely stupid. Oddly enough, this thread was just locked without comment, without a forum Responsible times to have an opinion. Here it seems the operators only need to go to as many postings have, perhaps to sell more advertising, but the quality is not where it seems to arrive, otherwise they would have long ago introduced a registration compulsory, as is usually synonymous in all forums, the I know.

Stone of my contention was the request of an unknown people in the sub-forum "Post Production", where he was an elaborate Green Screen Studio in "order" wanted. When he then of several people made clear that this is not running, and tips were given to him, as he himself can accomplish, he sulked at first and then days later claimed that he has a great recording has achieved. Then I asked him, but for everyone reading, please describe how he has now made so that others can learn from what, but he sulked and next, mutatis mutandis, replied that he had no knowledge is low, because we are not nice to him .

Such people, I'd like to ignore, but because everybody can post anonymously, does not. Consequently, I will occasionally read and grossly drüber when I think somewhere my Senft will have to give, I will do that, but very limited, because I still synonymous yes a couple of other things to do.

Matthias



Antwort von Bamboo:

Quote:
Such people, I'd like to ignore, but because everybody can post anonymously, does not


Och, our halbanonymer preacher, the other of which requires what he himself does not, namely SIGN, strikes again.








Antwort von PowerMac:

"camworks" wrote:
"Anonymous" wrote:
"PowerMac" wrote:
The cameraman will turn his right s.eigenen Picture by its employment from s.seine Company.

Oh, the cameraman was filmed. I thought the singer was filmed. Normally yes the cameraman behind the camera.

Matthias


;-)
you see, these formulas can happen if the layman has a thematic subject of which they have no or insufficient knowledge have ...


I am naturally right image.




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