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Frage von alfred:
Juni 2010

Hi friends,

I would like to make a documentary that I want to sell uUsTV stations. (I have to now eight years as an amateur on a PD 150 rotated.). Now I would like to take the TV stations have no technical problems and meet the technical standards.

Can someone tell me whether I with a 3 + EX NanoFlash (4:2:2) with the technical requirements would reflect the major public television stations.



Antwort von Jott:

Just ask specifically for the broadcasters to, want you happy! Roughly summarized, according to paper rather no, yes, in practice, if the result is so good that no one cares for the technology behind it. I personally think the issue of documentation for the NanoFlash completely stupid and unnecessary, this money is better invested in sound and light. The breaking point for quality is behind the Camera.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Alfred" wrote:
I would like to make a documentary that I want to sell uUsTV stations.

I close again the spoilsport: Exactly what you want to like, 100 free daily production companies that are s.Markt for 20 years, have the very best technology and renowned writers and cameramen. Your topic and its implementation should therefore already be extremely awesome, so it does not immediately end up in the trash. Whether it but then comes to a specific order, is still more than doubtful. I would be very happy to read here in a year of you that it worked, but for statistical reasons rather think that will not matter. This should not be a discouragement, but contributes to a real comparison.

Matthias








Antwort von thsbln:

Well ask themselves just why in the documentary field Soo much mediocre product is to be seen ...

(Not that I want to make your statement in question!)



Antwort von Pianist:

"Thsbln" wrote:
Well ask themselves just why in the documentary field Soo much mediocre product is to be seen ...

Well, I'm not talking now of the hundred-thousandth report about the video sections of the highway patrol ... :-)

Matthias



Antwort von soan:

"Pianist" wrote:
"Alfred" wrote:
I would like to make a documentary that I want to sell uUsTV stations.

I close again the spoilsport: Exactly what you want to like, 100 free daily production companies that are s.Markt for 20 years, have the very best technology and renowned writers and cameramen. Your topic and its implementation should therefore already be extremely awesome, so it does not immediately end up in the trash. Whether it but then comes to a specific order, is still more than doubtful. I would be very happy to read here in a year of you that it worked, but for statistical reasons rather think that will not matter. This should not be a discouragement, but contributes to a real comparison.

Matthias


I doubt however much the daily production companies with hundreds of top people to offer documentaries. For 45-60 minutes per document you need about 15-25 hours of raw material, the raw material which would be 2000 hours per day "needs" would be. So much time has the world but not at all :-)

Sure - it is "make" a lot, but when I look at the below-average scrap on n24 and similar stations MUST watch as more niche ne his low-budget features and documentaries for decent equipment with. For the image quality of these movies is often abysmal and the content is lagging s.allen corners, but is sent. So it goes in any case, just know how (or for whom) is the question ...!!!



Antwort von alfred:

I have only asked about the technical standards. I am making documentaries, I now know of others who may make an assessment. In a year you will read here not sure of, I for one do not need it for my ego hinauszuposaunen successes, on the other hand my planned documentary about for several years go.

Nevertheless, I would like to know from discriminating voice, whether the combination + NanoFlash the technical specifications of the public rechtzlichen TVs sufficient Ex3. (On a general Blah, blah I can do without).

Alfred



Antwort von ceveto:

Hi alfred,

to your question:
This is of channel to channel different, here's a link looks like it at ARD / ZDF / ORF:
http://books.google.de/books?id=HwefAArZwiYC&pg=PA142&lpg=PA142&dq=arte+senderichtlinien&source=bl&ots=BFk99EnrEI&sig=h62NbgPN_yfEWhezT1TKhU_ZUEk&hl=de&ei=etclTP3kJMeIOPSCuOYC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAg onepage # v = & q =% arte 20senderichtlinien & f = false
From Page 144 is interesting for you.

Another tip:
If the channels in contact with before you turn.
If the beginning of Senderedaktion s.with in the boat, then you have saved at least partial funding.
Editors buy only rarely finished films. If they do, they are usually gone very successfully at festivals.
In addition, you get little money for the finished film when no editors were there. Your basis for negotiation is in fact much worse if you produce freely, you have to sell to refinance at the strip, the synonymous know:)

Regards,
ceveto <a href=""> </ a>



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Alfred" wrote:
... I only asked about the technical standards ...

These standards are not necessarily the decisive factor, but if you really concerned only with the gray theory, then you will find here a few initial details:
http://forum.slashcam.de/drehformate-fur-die-tv-produktion-vt81904.html?
But since, as I said, the reality is often different from that which is in any guidelines, the best tip is really to ask directly to the relevant editors. If such a thing should not last synonymous play a role whether one has a name: A well-known nature film-maker is likely to sell fewer problems, an HDV production as plain-Otto-novice, the one with "We only take XDCAM HD422 fobs.



Antwort von Mantas:

"Alfred" wrote:
I have only asked about the technical standards. I am making documentaries, I now know of others who may make an assessment. In a year you will read here not sure of, I for one do not need it for my ego hinauszuposaunen successes, on the other hand my planned documentary about for several years go.

Nevertheless, I would like to know from discriminating voice, whether the combination + NanoFlash the technical specifications of the public rechtzlichen TVs sufficient Ex3. (On a general Blah, blah I can do without).

Alfred


4:2:2, 2 / 3 chip, fullhd.
we may be guided rude, but fuck it:)



Antwort von alfred:

Dear friends,

Thanks s.die creative / constructive of you. As I understand from your posts is 4:2:2 rather a feint of some TV - Institutions in order to keep newcomers amateurish, as a rigid rule.

As I understand from the specification is explicitly EXCam material out, so the idea with the NanoFlash to offer a professional format. This, to fail not already s.einer editorial desk hurdle. About the content, design and theme, I'm not worried when it comes to a screening of the film. (Incidentally, according to 4:2:2 WoWU synonymous get better on the screen over. Would be interested to know what to say to WoWu combination EX3 + NanoFlash).

Another question is whether the 2 / 3 chip (obviously demand of the TV stations) over the half chip of the Ex3 ever seen. (Not that I want to cheat the station, I think the question for the Camera occurs only during the inspection on and then the game should already be decided.).

With broadcasters deny the Project would of course be the best. But that I would set myself and make compromises and commitments that I could take pleasure s.der thing (that goes over several years). (Somewhere in a clever book on the documentary I've read that the conditions of production of the TV channels (time pressure) prevents many professionals because their creative potential to exploit what many see as very satisfactory. To this I would like, though perhaps synonymous with financial disadvantages linked not to disclose. I want to use the only sideline ausSpass filmmaking and love for the medium).

Alfred



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Alfred" wrote:
... As I understand from your posts is 4:2:2 rather a feint of some TV - Institutions in order to keep newcomers amateurish, as a rigid rule ...

Quite so hard I would not say it, for 4:2:2 does have measurable benefits and a laugh and romp, channels their policies not to make synonymous. Only one may just not believe that these policies are irrevocably set in stone. If you can provide an interesting topic and synonymous everything else fits, a little charisma will fail because you do not with a 2/3-Inch-Camera in XDCAM HD422 have rotated. After all, play synonymous content and type of document a role for the acceptance of the rotating format.

"Alfred" wrote:
... With broadcasters deny the Project would of course be the best. But that's what I would define myself ... I could take the joy s.der thing (that goes over several years) ...

If you have several years of time until the work is done, then use the time to go with the competent people at the stations at times to drink a beer, such contacts are more likely to lead to the goal than the over-delivery of the technical guidelines ;-)








Antwort von Jott:

The look in three years anyway different again when the next upgrade comes round.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Soan" wrote:
I doubt however much the daily production companies with hundreds of top people to offer documentaries. For 45-60 minutes per document you need about 15-25 hours of raw material, the raw material which would be 2000 hours per day "needs" would be. So much time has the world but not at all :-)

Fallacy: from 100 projects are perhaps two or three then synonymous actually realized.

Matthias



Antwort von AD Tom:

http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=62426

Regards

Thomas.



Antwort von alfred:

Hi friends,

thanks for the info and great links. What interests me above all:

You can see the difference of a 2 / 3 chip camera a half chip camera (EX3) at all, if we disregard of the depth of field and not just a 2 / 3 Camera with Super Optics has. Say comparatively with the optical system of the PMW-350. yes there is only 1 / 6 inch (chip in) on the diagonal difference.

Good idea with an editor to go for a beer. However, I have the next station a distance of 140km live (in southern Germany in the Alps). Had a darn expensive beer. :-)

Alfred




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