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Fernseher als Kontrollmonitor - Worauf achten?

Television as a control monitor eight - what?



Frage von Martina:
April 2006

Hi folks,

I have set before me a (relatively) user-friendly editing suite. Specifically, I now have 2 questions about how I can do it (2 VGA monitors and an inspection of the monitor for me, unfortunately, only a TV device will be) used.

I probably need a dual head graphics card for both monitors. And then how this works with the Television? Therefore, the graphics card then synonymous still need a TV-out, or whatever you have to imagine it?

I want to get me a (probably more handy) Television, to use him as a control monitor. What should I look for when selecting or apply a few things must be strictly observed?

Would be nice if someone can help. Thank you very much.



Antwort von Marcus2:

It depends on which program you work with ...
I have expired EDIUS 3 Pro and the video card to DV Storm 2 (now DVX-card). On this video card is a PAL-TV for full-resolution real-time control of operations on the timeline, no preference whether or effect or filter effect. Only on the PAL TV you can see the correct effect.



Antwort von Axel:

"Martina" wrote:
I want to get me a (probably more handy) Television, to use him as a control monitor. What should I look for when selecting or apply a few things must be strictly observed?

Salut Martina.
If it's talking about a (former) used calibrated overscan control monitor, which are currently very favorable. I would imagine that many sweatshops just run straight to HD in order to switch to 16:9 and TFT monitors.
The idea of a normal television monitor as a control that makes sense, but MUs. As a canvas but not always observed. The picture is just not "real", the colors are not accurate, not the image. First I tried to calibrate the normal television, one with Trinitron flat screen, to color, contrast and brightness of the test image ". This preset I saved as "users". Now, the picture looked exactly like on my display. But: Regular TV shows looked horrible. And, frankly, have seen the finished DVD with the picture setting from horrible, actually saw the beginning of s.das TV Picture in Comparison to the TFT from horrible.
Probably means: The Television presents the colors are different, so they look right.
The only purpose of a TV monitor, the inspection would be, a color correction s.Schluß again gegenzuchecken short, not because the colors are displayed on the TV more reliable, but because they look so different. The same is true for all kinds of animations and what makes them interlaced with. You should then adjust the TV so that your normal TV images (appear as quasi-reference), of course. After a while you learn the difference predict correctly, the monitor is again a sort of final "acceptance" in a worst-case scenario ( "If I can make it there, I make it anywhere").
For me it is established that CRT TVs are obsolete after I've already bought a second LCD TV. Interlaced images even see (on the newer device practical) to 100% like real frames. I'd prefer a reference to print on the DVD that they do not ask to be played on a tube device. So that they would not look for a slow-melting majority. Therefore, just about the TV monitor.








Antwort von Martina:

Many many thanks before.

The cutting was initially just a hobby, with the time, I'm always deeply immersed in the matter, and right now I am going to build me something like a second job.
Therefore, it is synonymous to the "acquisition process" will be quite a stretch for some time. I just wanted to make me something smart, before I start buying some wild things, with which I then in 2 years but already am no longer happy.

I'm (still) before working on a Windows PC base. I have Avid Xpress DV 3.5 and After Effects 6.0, will update both at times, if necessary. The rest is exactly what is to increase it. This is going to a dual head graphics card and basically listen to a DV-setter. But first I wanted to do it with the monitors and the TV - especially the latter.
"Axel" wrote:
If it's talking about a (former) used calibrated overscan control monitor, which are currently very favorable.
What is allowed to be understood by "quite favorable"? I think my budget will not allow that anyway.
"Axel" wrote:
The same is true for all kinds of animations and what makes them interlaced with.
Primarily for that I wanted to use the Television synonymous - that is more of a control for the After Effects stuff. That reminds me of yet: I was once on a page, which described how to VGA monitors properly recruited, with test images, etc.. But I think no more. Where could I make myself as clever in this regard?

@ Guest: I actually wanted to buy myself not necessarily a cut card. However, I have been thinking so hard about not synonymous.

And as I said, I do not want to buy purchases to break across his knee, but it is not synonymous nonsensical. Perhaps it makes sense indeed synonymous to wait with the one or the other just a little too - for better times and better Prices.



Antwort von mdb:

"Axel" wrote:
First I tried to calibrate the normal television, one with Trinitron flat screen, to color, contrast and brightness of the test image ". This preset I saved as "users". Now, the picture looked exactly like on my display. But: Regular TV shows looked horrible. And, frankly, have seen the finished DVD with the picture setting from horrible, actually saw the beginning of s.das TV Picture in Comparison to the TFT from horrible.

I did not understand now. You set the TV monitor so the picture looked exactly like on the PC monitor?

If I want to watch my movie on a TV, I have to take the TV as a reference. The TV monitor is set with video signal generator or test images from the PC, which must be sure that the TV-OUT of the PC, there are honest signals of (which is not all graphics cards that is). In the Picture impression on the PC monitor is not interested at all.
We use to set even the Pluge test pattern. There are in black (0% level) with a field of -2% and +2% with a field level. Now, the brightness is adjusted so that the +2% field can still see the field but -2% to 0% indicates no difference-black. By contrast slider is set then the White Squares to about 150 cd / m². The saturation is controlled with the color bars, one can monitor on the blue-only switch and then provides the 4 bright and dark bars on each of the 4 equal brightness, or you look in the color magenta bars s.besten with a magnifying glass s. and represents the saturation so that the green phosphor dots not exactly glowing.



Antwort von Markus:

Hi Martina,

My first monitor was a SonyTrinitron editing suite with 55-inch diagonal - because I will just stop at that time had. The work was so tedious, because the viewing distance between the relatively coarse and large tube of the Sony TV and the high-resolution computer monitor was just too different. I sat by s.Schnittplatz, like a sip of water in the curve. That was some very stressful.

When I was ready to finally buy myself a proper video monitor was synonymous, of course, my budget is limited. ¬ 1,000 such devices quickly and cost more, but I would have been a "professional entry-level model" is sufficient. So I came to the conclusion that a SonyPVM-14L1 would be right for me. But unfortunately, there was this model are no longer on eBay and the Gebrauchtpreise were beyond the pale high.

So I finally got my current JVC TM-H150CG, who was a real asset for my work. The original price of this monitor is around 650 ¬ (including VAT), which Resolutionbei 750 TV lines. ;-)



Antwort von Axel:

"mdb" wrote:
I did not understand now. You set the TV monitor so the picture looked exactly like on the PC monitor?
Initially, with the realization that this was a mistake. 1000 thanks for your posting, however, by googling on test pictures I came across a site with tips for calibrating all possible Television. There are even expelled How to DVDs. Will I concern myself with time. Perhaps we could ask the user to calibrate its Television and also to burn a test card to the DVD. No, that was just half a joke. Thanks again.




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