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Frage von sunlite:
Januar 2007

Hi,

I would like an AVI file (40 MB) using the smallest possible compression codec. Which compression method is because it the best?
DivX / XVid, MOV, RMVB, Tech Smith ...

How do I get the file as small as possible of the quality but still worth seeing.

Thanks;)



Antwort von PowerMac:

H.264



Antwort von RamirezZ:

Jo,

the H264 codec for me personally makes small files MEGA WHOLESALE.
DivX is still the best quality and compresses very well. So in my opinion.








Antwort von PowerMac:

As for you personally? A codec is not a silly woman who has her days.
If you've set everything properly, then the files are always synonymous small. There are no exceptions;)



Antwort von RamirezZ:

I was once synonymous a video about 50 mb (800x600) that I wanted to make internet.
in compression with h.264, I had once on a file size of 150 mb. when I look at the quality of h.264 down, so the file size remains low, it is the same size of the 50 mb video no longer was worth seeing.
with divx, I have the video in the same size and quality astrein to get just under 10 mb. and as I said. the quality is already breathtaking. because it is then again, this video file online.
I know that mac owners to basically swear by Apple products (no offense). But as I said. in this instance is divx or xvid my favorit. Incidentally, I use linux. synonymous to run Apple's QuickTime already. with h.264 but I could not begin. >> So when "me personally". for thou "PowerMac" because others seem to have made experiences. times then please explain how you in your h.264 compression orders.



Antwort von PowerMac:

Dear Linux users, you should just know that if no H.264 Quicktime is limited. There are some other (synonymous OpenSource-) versions. Apple has a well-known manufacturer of H.264 and vigorously promoted. Nothing more. So was so good and you save your unfounded "Clearance". http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264

There are some comparison tests between XviD and H.264. H.264 wins since, but synonymous encodes three times as long.
http://www.xile.net/xvid_vs_x264/



Antwort von sunlite:

PowerMac Hallo, hallo RamirezZ,

I have almost a similar problem as RamirezZ only am I forced Windows users, hehe (but actually has nothing to do).

So my problem:
I have of Apple Quicktime is not the Pro version. Therefore I also charge the VSS H.264 Codec procured (freeware).
Then I wanted to using Adobe Premiere Sliced export. So first of all have the basic settings of H.264 left. Then I pressed the Export button and it appeared an error message that premiere to be closed. Exports unfortunately he has nothing.
With Quicktime s.sich are synonymous, I can not export, because I only the freeware version of QT that.

@ PowerMac: What is there still potential for an AVI into an existing H.264 .Format to get. Most of the information Google offers fee-only programs to. But I am very reluctant to buy a pig in a poke if I do not know whether the program is the results that I would have liked.

I would also have an original version of ProCoder2. Since I can all sorts of video types into other types of video umkonvertieren. Only Quicktime works strangely only the 3-Sorensen codec. And the compressed my 40MB AVI file to say and write 31 MB-MOV-F ile. It will therefore unfortunately not. As soon as I ProCoder2 in the H.264 RESTRICT, falls to me as this program, as premier.

What is there now an alternative, yet? You know as what? How are you doing this? A small description of the settings would perhaps synonymous not bad;)

Thanks;)



Antwort von PowerMac:

In my linked Wikipedia article, you will find a free encoder H.24 names x264 ... At the GBT is synonymous turn a Wikipedia article and a website!



Antwort von TheBubble:

"Sunlite" wrote:
I would like an AVI file (40 MB) using the smallest possible compression codec. Which compression method is because it the best?

"Sunlite" wrote:

How do I get the file as small as possible of the quality but still worth seeing.

We can not reply to a flat rate. It depends of the image content, and what you are worth seeing as a look;)



Antwort von Uwe:

It always depends on => what "make small" ... In Nero package is a very good H264 (Nero Digital). Was published in c't codec test as winner.

For the net, I would still have WMV9, Mov (Sorenson3) or flv (Flash Video) go ...



Antwort von transsib:

Hi!

After yesterday, I spend hours with MeGUI and x264 unsuccessfully herumfummelte, I'm just about the software directory on Slashcam



Antwort von awfulTHEmovie:

I would, and I would, but I would ...

Whether Sorensen, H.264, Divx, WMV9, or, I would like the question. Despite time-consuming experiments with all these formats can I never be so small files as I find them on the web, with the desired quality. The pain threshold is 5 minutes for 320 x 180 100 MB! In Wmv Sorensen and even higher.

Can someone times a concrete example? Length of the film, frame size, frame rate, encoding settings, so I can understand the 1:1? Something's wrong.








Antwort von awfulTHEmovie:

So with the WMV codec, I have different experiences:
zb. 2min15sec / 640x480 / 1128 kbit / s Windows Media Video / Audio 9
and 10 MB with super Quality!

Greeting cj



Antwort von Wiro:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Can someone times a concrete example ... for 5 minutes, 320 x 180

Noch'n concrete example:

5 minutes 320 x 180 WMV 512 kb / s = 19 MB Very good quality
5 minutes 320 x 180 WMV 1024 KB / s = 38 MB of excellent quality
etc.

For the 320x180 grid of 512 kb / s just fine. You can even to 384 kb / s down - that there is still a good web-quality.
Gruss Wiro



Antwort von transsib:

Hi!

"Anonymous" wrote:
[...] Can someone times a concrete example? Length of the film, frame size, frame rate, encoding settings, so I can understand the 1:1? Something's wrong.


So - I have just made to work. Original material was a DV-AVI video, interlaced, uncompressed, 720 x 576 pixel, 2:56 minutes. Incorporated, I have the video with a SonyDCR-HC17.

Screenshot der Einstellungen in SUPER

The result, 4283 KB (please right click on link, then save as ...)

As for me, however, somewhat puzzled is that the settings for the bitrate in SUPER does not meet with the outcome. The actual rate was always significantly higher than the set. I Added 128 Kb / s, the Quicktime Player shows but 195 Kb / sec. Maybe I have something wrong?

Gruß, Oliver

Edit: it looks as if the bitrate does not make any down could. Depending on the resolution so small you can adjust bitrate as you want - s.einem certain point, the output bit rate is no longer small.



Antwort von transsib:

So - I was busy again and have a 35-second film that I someday in the vastness of the www found converted into different formats. The film was shot with a SonyHDR-HC3, an HD camcorder created. The quality of the recordings is worlds better than what my HC17 ausspuckt so that the quality of codecs can be assessed well. I have the movie as a *. m2t file, so as he came of the Camera in 1440 x 1080 pixels, above.

Das sind die Einstellungen in SUPER.

Die Resolutionhabe ich auf 640 x 368 Pixel reduziert, die Bitrate steht bei allen Dateien auf 816 Kbit/sek. Außer der Choice des jeweiligen Codecs blieben die Einstellungen unverändert. Die Einstellungen in den Untermenüs habe ich ebenfalls nicht verändert. Alle Dateien sind um die 3,8 MB groß. Wie die Qualität der einzelnen Codecs ist, seht ihr selbst - mir fiel darüber hinaus noch auf, dass der H264 Codec recht leistungshungrig ist.

Hinter jeder File findet Ihr die verursachte zusätzliche (also über der Grundlast liegende) Prozessorauslastung in Prozent, jeweils unter Linux with dem Totem Player and XP with dem VLC Player. Mein Calculator ist with einem Athlon XP 2000+ Processor and 1 GB RAM bestückt.

Bitte speichert die Dateien erst einmal lokal durch Rechtsklick auf den Link, dann "...speichern unter".

H.264 Das sind die Einstellungen in SUPER.

Die Resolutionhabe ich auf 640 x 368 Pixel reduziert, die Bitrate steht bei allen Dateien auf 816 Kbit/sek. Außer der Choice des jeweiligen Codecs blieben die Einstellungen unverändert. Die Einstellungen in den Untermenüs habe ich ebenfalls nicht verändert. Alle Dateien sind um die 3,8 MB groß. Wie die Qualität der einzelnen Codecs ist, seht ihr selbst - mir fiel darüber hinaus noch auf, dass der H264 Codec recht leistungshungrig ist.

Hinter jeder File findet Ihr die verursachte zusätzliche (also über der Grundlast liegende) Prozessorauslastung in Prozent, jeweils unter Linux with dem Totem Player and XP with dem VLC Player. Mein Calculator ist with einem Athlon XP 2000+ Processor and 1 GB RAM bestückt.

Bitte speichert die Dateien erst einmal lokal durch Rechtsklick auf den Link, dann "...speichern unter".


DivX
XVID DivX

WMV8
MPEG2 WMV8

Gruß, Oliver




Antwort von Chezus:

I like that s.Slashcam. Because there are times an issue where I'm s.Haare scuffle and find no solution, she promptly comes in the form of a thread of this art.

Thanks for the examples Transsib



Antwort von PowerMac:

H.264 is clearly s.Besten, right?



Antwort von Axel:

In the order of (decreasing), as it is listed here, I would evaluate the quality. XVid I can not open (probably missing a codec to me) - because what I have missed?
S.Oliver Thanks for the effort. Now we know das



Antwort von sunlite:

@ All

Super. Thank you very much. For me klappts now synonymous with the H.264 method. Juhu. Thanks synonymous for all practical examples.

Greeting



Antwort von transsib:

Hi Axel!

"Axel" wrote:
In the order of (decreasing), as it is listed here, I would evaluate the quality. XVid I can not open (probably missing a codec to me) - because what I have missed? [...]


The order was random, but it is my impression synonymous. H.264 seems to me in any event, as the clear front-runner right. The processor load caused, however, is not quite to despise - at higher resolutions and / or older computers can do may be the difference between jerky and smooth playback represent.

The appropriate codec for Xvid find hier. Davon unabhängig kannst Du synonymous mal den kostenlosen VLC Media Player hier. Davon unabhängig kannst Du synonymous mal den kostenlosen
@ All:

I have my post of 17:12 clock nor data on each processor resulting load on Linux and XP expanded.

Gruß, Oliver









Antwort von PowerMac:

"Axel" wrote:
In the order of (decreasing), as it is listed here, I would evaluate the quality. XVid I can not open (probably missing a codec to me) - because what I have missed?
S.Oliver Thanks for the effort. Now we know das


Download perian. That's practically a codec pack for OS X. Is synonymous for Intel. Almost everything is now playable with Quicktime.
http://perian.org/



Antwort von Neo2006:

The same problem I am currently synonymous.
Basic premise should be at my clip, however, that most people synonymous him "see", without any additional codecs to install. Ie s.Win98 or above the codec should already be in the operating system, goes so what?



Antwort von Gast1:

"Neo2006" wrote:
The same problem I am currently synonymous.
Basic premise should be at my clip, however, that most people synonymous him "see", without any additional codecs to install. Ie s.Win98 or above the codec should already be in the operating system, goes so what?


That was only with MPEG-1.



Antwort von Neo2006:

"Gast1" wrote:
"Neo2006" wrote:
The same problem I am currently synonymous.
Basic premise should be at my clip, however, that most people synonymous him "see", without any additional codecs to install. Ie s.Win98 or above the codec should already be in the operating system, goes so what?


That was only with MPEG-1.


Thank you for your prompt reply. MPEG1 Now is probably the worst choice: (
Perhaps I should rather ask, what codec, I have the chance to see what most people see my film and this is synonymous with attractive Qualiät?



Antwort von Eva Maier:

After at least for Mpg video information hidden in the audio, you at least know where the levers must go.

TMPGEnc and MVCD one of these templates would be a nice solution that s.PC without additional codec and also synonymous runs on DVD players.

/ Eva Maier



Antwort von Uwe:

"Neo2006" wrote:
... at what codec I have the chance to see what most people see my film and this is synonymous with attractive Qualiät?


Flv Wmv + ...



Antwort von Axel:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Download perian.

Thank you, especially the AC3 component gefällt mir sehr.




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