DVL-Digest 1157 - Postings: Index DSR-11 Pros & Cons - (2) - (3) - (4) - (5) How to Clean a MiniDV Camera Labelling tapes Need to bump DVCPRO to miniDV Recording BetaSP to DV Setup WAS: DSR-11 Pros & Cons DSR-11 Pros & Cons - "Perry Mitchell" I hope my friend Bevis won't mind me restating this - it was probably somewhere in his post but it's got to be a bit of a mess with all the quotes etc. If you want to cue to a particular place on the tape then the DSR-11 does take a lot of 1 frame jogging to find it. However, for batch capture this is irrelevant because (at least with FCP and I'd guess with most other NLEs) it is the HDD that will start running at the right place. The DSR-11 gets in the right ball park, and as it comes past the capture in-point in Play, the HDD starts to record. This makes batch capture good and fast. For control from an NLE it is best to put the DSR-11 into the slower of the two shuttle speeds, otherwise the tape will overshoot and it will end up taking longer to find a cue point. Perry Mitchell Video Consultant http://www.perrybits.co.uk DSR-11 Pros & Cons - Jon Burkhart Bevis R W King wrote: > OK, I'm done ranting and raving about this. :-) Good. I hope you feel all better now ;^) If anyone cares, the reason for setup was (the best I can remember) it gave a bit of a guard band between video and sync. In the days of vacuum tube sync generators with their great instability just getting on the air was a bit questionable. To say they tended to "drift" is a gross understatement. Oh yeah, the sync generator took up a full rack, as I recall. A standard rack is about 18 inches across, just as deep and stands about 6 feet tall. With the advent of solid state sync generators and processing amplifiers, setup was no longer necessary. But hey, that was 40 years ago and these things take time ;^) Aloha, Jon Burkhart DSR-11 Pros & Cons - Adam Wilt > ...more and more devices are being used that don't add setup... It's only > the analogue TV stations > that are forced to conform to RS-170A standards who are still trying to > add setup... I can promise you that at least 98% of the time I can RELY > on the network and syndication uplinks having > sufficiently different setup levels between the programme content and the > commercials that I can spot the transition. No argument there! > Setup is so pathetically badly implemented by all of the US networks at > network continuity stage, that there is absolutely no accuracy or > quality control value in it at all. It's just paying lip service to an > out of date idea because nobody can be bothered to argue. I agree completely that it's time to argue with the dispensation of setup. I'm merely trying to point out that it *is* still part of the nominal requirements for north American NTSC, and that producers trapped in this vale of tears ignore it at their peril. If the SMPTE, the FCC, and the NAB declared setup dead, I'd be partying in the streets. > I'm far from convinced that most users monitors are set correctly... In > fact, I'd say there's a big body of evidence that almost all sets are > misaligned. I thought they all came factory-misaligned in every possible way... > OK, I'm done ranting and raving about this. :-) An excellent ranting and raving. Thanks for the intelligent discussion! Cheers, AJW [Any bizarre line breaks courtesy of OS X's Mail.app. Think Different!] DSR-11 Pros & Cons - "Perry Mitchell" From: Jon Burkhart If anyone cares, the reason for setup was (the best I can remember) it gave a bit of a guard band between video and sync. In the days of vacuum tube sync generators with their great instability just getting on the air was a bit questionable. To say they tended to "drift" is a gross understatement. Oh yeah, the sync generator took up a full rack, as I recall. A standard rack is about 18 inches across, just as deep and stands about 6 feet tall. With the advent of solid state sync generators and processing amplifiers, setup was no longer necessary. But hey, that was 40 years ago and these things take time ;^) DSR-11 Pros & Cons - "Perry Mitchell" From:Vidiot >I thought it was to give room for the old sub black luminance keyer? In >other words the signal had a sort of Alpha channel squeezed between 0 and >7.5. The BBC had a similar system but since it was below blanking, it needed >special distribution equipment. I'm guessing it was killed by the advent of >video tape. >Perry Mitchell While that was probably true in the digital age, but as previously mentioned, in the old tube says, the setup was needed for other reasons. Turning it into a cheap alpha channel came later, much later. How to Clean a MiniDV Camera - Jon Burkhart Well, I restrict my cleaning of MiniDV Camera to using a head cleaning tape designed for that purpose by the manufacturer of the tape I use. Any more elaborate cleaning of the camera I leave to the Factory Service Center of that particular camera. I usually have this done about every year. These camera mechanisms are so small and delicate I do not feel competent to work on them (as many of you know I've been messing with television equipment for a long time). VHS and larger formats I'm comfortable cleaning, but with MiniDV Cameras I draw the line. Aloha, Jon Burkhart Ron wrote: > > Best to submerse it in salt water and let dry in the sun. > ;^) > > > > Does anyone know where I could learn to clean/maintain a MiniDV camera? Labelling tapes - Jon Burkhart Event; Camera "A", "B" or "C" (or sometimes I use "J" for Jon and "E" for Elizabeth; Reel 1, 2, 3 etc. It's a good idea to label the tapes ahead of time for quick changes. NEVER take recorded tapes out of the camera and not properly label them. It's also a good idea to change the tab on the tape from "Record" to "Save". Any tape without a label is considered something to record on. Aloha, Jon Burkhart Bill Redmond wrote: > what techniques > do you folks use to identify your tape media? > > Need to bump DVCPRO to miniDV - "Crittenden, Jan" > From: Marty Howe [mailto:mhowe108@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:25 AM > To: DV-L > Subject: [dv-l] Need to bump DVCPRO to miniDV > > > Thanks for all the info re: which decks can handle DVCPRO to DV via > firewire. > > I haven't had any luck finding a facility to do this yet, but > at least I > know now which decks I can inquire about. > > If anyone can point me in a possible direction to solve this, > any additional > information would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Marty > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > -- (cut off when replying)----------------- > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such > as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, > http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. > > > To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org > Recording BetaSP to DV - Jon Burkhart You'll want to send some audio along with that BNC video, I trust ;^) I use a Canon Elura for this purpose. It's analog A/V inputs and firewire (if the primary camera has firewire) and it can be used as the director's monitor with it's fold out screen or out in the sun he can look at the CRT internal viewfinder. It's great to have this "backup recording" as well as all the monitoring. I've used the camera extensively for a couple of years. It has never malfunctioned. Aloha, Jon Burkhart Triglyph@aol.com wrote: > I'm assuming I take a BNC from the video output on the BetaSP to the DV > recorder. Setup WAS: DSR-11 Pros & Cons - Jon Burkhart Yeah, I've wondered if there is setup on the output of my Pioneer DVD 503. I don't have a scope to easily check it. Let us know what you find, Adam. Aloha, Jon Burkhart Adam Wilt wrote: > > I'll have a peek at my DVD player's output later in the week and see > whether or not it adds setup. I don't recall its blacks being crushed, and > I don't recal the monitor going between off-air and DVD playback. But it > may not have setup, I dunno. (I do tweak the set if I watch DV tapes, to > avoid crushing the shadows.) (diese posts stammen von der DV-L Mailingliste - THX to Adam Wilt and Perry Mitchell :-) [up] |
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