DVL-Digest 1272 - Postings: Index avid dv-express Jan / Panasonic New Panasonic 24P miniDV - (2) PAL / NTSC PAL/NTSC avid dv-express - "Valerie Shoaps" Hi, This is up my alley. >Using Avid DV express.. with beta n dac... ( not dv pecorder) .facing some >problem.. >That is while mastering getting loss of croma plus additional grains... >Masters from this machine are not acceptable in some of the >channels...:} That's the quality (or lack of) of the DAC-2 converting D/A. I tried it and returned it. If you search the Avid L archives, you'll see others stating the same. For the application you're in need of, really the Laird 5500 or the ProMax DA-MAX (no XP support yet with it, only W2K) are the ways to go. Miranda has a reportedly good box out, but I haven't used it or seen the results. >Then how do we call dvexpress online machine??? That's pretty debatable. XDV is great for finishing DV res/format projects. Great color correction and scopes (which sample all horizontal lines - very rare and shortcoming with most software scopes), and codec. Shoot it out to a transcoder and view on a production monitor. However, for most Beta/DigiBeta, etc... , XDV is mostly used for offlining. A real advanatge in that an XDV project can be easily opened in a MC or higher for onlining/finishing. The boxes I mentioned (don't know about Miranda) will restripe the TC from the original footage, so redigitizing is a snap in the online. There's usually a frame or two offset, but in XDV 3.5, there's a setting to adjust for that. Valerie Jan / Panasonic - "Crittenden, Jan" > From: stephen@xiveren.com [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:43 PM > To: DV-L > Subject: [dv-l] RE: New Panasonic 24P miniDV > > > >Questions questions...... > > Answers, Answers: > > http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/dvproline/DVworld_24qs.html > > Plus, 2-pop.com and dv.com have hundreds of threads cover every rumor, fact, > mistatement and issue with this camera. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > -- (cut off when replying)----------------- > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as > http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and > the contributions of its members. > > > To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: videos@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > -- (cut off when replying)----------------- > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. > > > To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% -- (cut off when replying)----------------- This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org New Panasonic 24P miniDV - "Crittenden, Jan" From: stephen@xiveren.com [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:43 PM To: DV-L Subject: [dv-l] RE: New Panasonic 24P miniDV >Questions questions...... Answers, Answers: http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/dvproline/DVworld_24qs.html Plus, 2-pop.com and dv.com have hundreds of threads cover every rumor, fact, mistatement and issue with this camera. --- You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% -- (cut off when replying)----------------- This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org New Panasonic 24P miniDV - "Crittenden, Jan" > From: stephen@xiveren.com [mailto:stephen@xiveren.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:43 PM > To: DV-L > Subject: [dv-l] RE: New Panasonic 24P miniDV > > >> Questions questions...... > > Answers, Answers: > > http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/dvproline/DVworld_24qs.html > > Plus, 2-pop.com and dv.com have hundreds of threads cover every rumor, > fact, > mistatement and issue with this camera. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > -- (cut off when replying)----------------- > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as > http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, > http://panasonic.com/broadcast and > the contributions of its members. > > > To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: digitaleye@mac.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% > -- (cut off when replying)----------------- > This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as > http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, > http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. > > > To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html > All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org > --- You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: crittendenj@panasonic.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% -- (cut off when replying)----------------- This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org PAL / NTSC - "Perry Mitchell" From: TK Am I to understand then that MiniDV format is not 'global'; i.e. there is Pal-MiniDV and NTSC-MiniDV? How would then would one that is not 'geographically limited' in any way decide which camera model to use? PAL/NTSC - "Perry Mitchell" From: CPJ_II Perry Mitchell wrote: > > Don't confuse this with DVD Region Limits which is purely a Hollywood power > control issue. There is nothing to stop say US residents recording and > playing back PAL and in fact many do. Some think it provides a better medium > for acquiring digital movies for subsequent transfer to film. > > Creating a DV transport that is capable of recording and playing both PAL > and NTSC versions of DV is relatively mundane. The Sony DSR-11 range already > does it, and several cameras apparently have a similar undocumented > capability. Getting the camera to produce both PAL and NTSC sized images is > a rather more difficult trick, but with the new trend of using oversampling > with 'MegaPixel' imagers then it is only a matter of time and marketing. Oversampling for SDTV could arguably enable a camera to record at 480 scanlines (NTSC) or 576 (PAL). However, oversampling will do nothing to deal with the incompatible refresh rates for NTSC and PAL. The closest current compromise is a camera that records only 24 frames per second (same rate as movies and film-sourced [in US] TV shows). 24fps can be converted to NTSC using the same 3:2 pulldown used to transfer movies to NTSC video, and can also be speeded up 4% to 25 fps for PAL (as is done with movies and American filmed TV programing), though this will often generate audio problems, especially if music is part of the program [in addition to pitch inaccuracies, any trained musician will confirm that a 4% tempo increase may significantly alter the character of any music]. At this time, my opinion is that incompatible refresh rates remain the single most vexatious issue re global TV/video standards for both SDTV and HDTV (for which Europe and Oz have made clear they're sticking with 50Hz). The elaborate frame and/or field interpolation still used to convert PAL to NTSC and vice-versa results in terrible loss of detail and, at worst, fuzzy, ghosted and color-bleached video. Even the most expensive conversion systems (Snell & Wilcox) were optimized for standard interlace displays. On a hi-scan, line-doubled display (now increasingly prevalent in consumer markets in the US and Canada), they look terrible. What we need is a world standard that automatically adjusts to 24/25/30 fps. C. --- You are currently subscribed to dv-l as: perry.mitchell@btinternet.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% -- (cut off when replying)----------------- This list is made possible by Lifetime DV-L Benefactors such as http://promax.com, http://videoguys.com, http://panasonic.com/broadcast and the contributions of its members. To contribute money: http://dv411.com/dvl.html All about DV-L, to subscribe & unsubscribe: http://dv-l.org (diese posts stammen von der DV-L Mailingliste - THX to Adam Wilt and Perry Mitchell :-) [up] |
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