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2 GB capture Limit - how much time is it on DV?
colour space on a GL1
colour space on a GL1?
Extra information!
HELP---trouble with JVC SR-VS1
Raid


2 GB capture Limit - how much time is it on DV? - Perry Mitchell


Ted posted:
>My solution is sort of primitive but it gets the job done. I know that for
DV
you get 8 minutes of video for 2 gigs. So i watch the counter and when it
hits
about 7:30-7:45 i stop it. Then i rewind a little ways and start recording
to
another file, ultimately compliling all the clips in my NLE later. Works
fine
for me.<

Fine, except it is actually a little over 9 minutes of DV video per 2GB.
Perry Mitchell


colour space on a GL1 - "Perry"

Adam Wilt posted:
>Oops, I see you spell it "colour". In that case, Perry should tell us what
the
bandwidth limits are for PAL's Y, U, and V signals! I think U & V are good
to
about 2.25 MHz?<
I recently decided to start spelling it the UK way but old habits die hard!
The simple answer is that the PAL spec is for a Chroma bandwidth of 1.3MHz
at the -3dB point. This spec is for a gentle 'Gaussian' fall off. Unlike
NTSC, PAL has an equal bandwidth for the two colour axes. Also unlike NTSC,
it is not possible to precisely comb filter the decoded luminance signal to
remove cross colour components, so adhering to a chroma bandwidth limit may
be more important than in NTSC.
With a luminance bandwidth of 5.5MHz, this relationship represents almost
exactly the 4:1:1 relationship of 'NTSC' DV but we actually have 4:2:0 for
'PAL'. I suspect that 'PAL' DV equipment is thus capable of more than the
PAL chroma spec, but only an actual test could reveal the 'truth'.
The complicated answer is well beyond this post, and my time on a lovely
morning of what little may remain of our English summer! Having got stuffed
by the W'Indies and scraped past the 'Krauts' my day will now be spent in
quiet contemplation of a nice bottle of red and my newly patched pool.
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://
www.perrybits.co.uk/



colour space on a GL1? - Adam Wilt


> >When discussing analog signals with subcarrier modulation of the colour,
> >4:2:2 is overkill. 4:1:1 and/or 4:2:0 are well-matched at reducing data
> >rates whilst maintaining the colour resolution needed for analog...
>
> Adam, your explanation is a bit over my head; does this apply only to
> the GL1 or to what else?
Any time you come out composite or Y/C, from the GL1 or any other bit of gear,
the way the colour is encoded severely restricts its bandwidth and resolution.
Thus 4:1:1 and 4:2:0 video looks fine.
The only way to get analog colour with a broader bandwidth is to use component
outputs, typically labeled Y,U,V or Y,Pr,Pb. If you feed wideband component
into a high-resolution monitor, you can see the limitations of DV's low colour
sampling rate directly, if you look closely, whereas it is much harder to
notice this when looking at colour through the "thin pipe" of a Y/C or (worse)
a composite connection.
Cheers,
AJW



Extra information! - "Perry"

D. Palomaki posted:
>If the green pixel is from the same field as the red and blue, no
improvement in resolution - one can interpolate all one wants,
but it still is limited to 240 lines worth of data.<
Having championed the idea that interpolation cannot increase information, I
will now support Canon and state that pixel offset can!
The whole concept is not new, it was common on early CCD cameras when pixel
densities were marginal. The idea is to increase resolution by having the
green sensor looking at a slightly different part of the image than the red
and blue sensors. It DOES increase luminance resolution (and therefore
information) but ONLY when the source image has considerable content across
the whole colour spectrum.
To use a technical expression common in the UK broadcast business, it also
completely buggers up the concept of optical anti aliasing filters!
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://
www.perrybits.co.uk/



HELP---trouble with JVC SR-VS1 - Adam Wilt


> threaded".
Try switching your device control from "Apple FireWire" to "Apple FireWire
Basic". That *may* help. Also ensure that System is set to NTSC or PAL as
needed, and that your capture settings specify DV as the input.
> When I try hooking it up, via composite video or s-video, to my ATI
> card, the same problem happens---no signal---though now, of course,
> the computer can't even tell that it's looking for a JVC deck.
Can you hook up those same outputs to a monitor, and see a picture?
Cheers,
Adam Wilt



Raid - Perry Mitchell


Robert Smith posted:
>I would like to set up my own raid system from existing scsi drives I have
already and future drive purchases. Therefore I am not interested in
pre-made raids such as promax and medea. I am working on a G3. Does anyone
have any advice on a tower/case and controller sufficient for dv editing
using ultra2 scsi drives.<
I got an 'Initio' Ultra2 controller card which came with a free copy of
SoftRaid. Gives me a minimum of 20MB/s data rate with a couple of 7K
Ultra180 Quantums. You only need 3.7MB/s for DV, but I must admit that it
makes all previews in EditDV run much smoother.
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://www.perrybits.co.uk/




(diese posts stammen von der DV-L Mailingliste - THX to Adam Wilt and Perry Mitchell :-)


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