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FASTEST delivery to the US?
SDI or FireWire??? - (2)


FASTEST delivery to the US? - "Perry"


Peter Melly:
So are you saying that it does only real time transmission and that the
video data rate is then a max of 128Kb/s? This would mean the pictures are
compressed around 1000:1 and are therefore quite remarkable! Remember I saw
them full screen, with no obvious reduced frame rate or pixel doubling. It
had VERY obvious compression artefacts with lots of mosquito trails on
moving objects, very restricted colour mapping, and some blockiness.
If there was anyway you could find the exact parameters used for this
transmission, (6.00 news on BBC1, Tues Aug29) then I'm sure we'd all be
interested.
I've seen the future of News inserts, it wasn't pretty but it worked and it
must be cheap, and presumably it will get better. For this quality,
consumer DV cameras are overkill!
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://www.perrybits.co.uk/



SDI or FireWire??? - "Perry"


Alan Berstein posted:
>If I have a SDI output from an AVID or HENYR system, I understand that the
DS-MAX from Promax has an opthin to convert SDI to FireWire. Is their any
quality issue their?? is SDI beter than FireWire in terms of quality?? and
by using a converter like the DA-MAX going from SDI to FireWire is their any
loss? Ofcourse this would be using FCP.<
SDI is uncompressed video of potentially 10 bit resolution. Firewire (DV)
is 5:1 compressed video of 8 bit resolution. If the Avid (or Henyr?) is on
full uncompressed quality then the Firewire will cause losses, mainly by
reduced color resolution and some minor compression artefacts. Presumably
you need Firewire to record onto a DV/DVCAM/DVCPRO tape format which will
force these losses anyway.
Perry Mitchell
Video Facilities
http://www.perrybits.co.uk/



SDI or FireWire??? - "Perry"


From: Dave Haynie [mailto:dhaynie@jersey.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 08:40
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: SDI or FireWire???
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:38:32 -0000, "Perry" [perry.mitchell@btinternet.com]
jammed all night, and by sunrise was overheard remarking:
> >If I have a SDI output from an AVID or HENYR system, I understand that
the
> > DS-MAX from Promax has an opthin to convert SDI to FireWire. Is their
any
> >quality issue their?? is SDI beter than FireWire in terms of quality??
and
> >by using a converter like the DA-MAX going from SDI to FireWire is their
any
> >loss? Ofcourse this would be using FCP.<
> SDI is uncompressed video of potentially 10 bit resolution. Firewire (DV)
> is 5:1 compressed video of 8 bit resolution.
Actually, not quite. Firewire is not a video format of any kind, it's
simply a high speed serial data bus. Whatever you ship across it arrives
at the other end, simple as that.
Now, in most cases, the thing at the other end may well be a DV or miniDV
camcorder. DV (as you parenthesize) is a 5:1 compressed video format of
8-bit resolution. But one could just as easily have a hard drive, another
computer, or various other things at the other end of that Firewire
interconnect.
> If the Avid (or Henyr?) is on
> full uncompressed quality then the Firewire will cause losses, mainly by
> reduced color resolution and some minor compression artefacts.
Again, sending a video file over Firewire causes no loss of any kind.
Encoding it into the DV file format is what causes that loss, regardless
of what you do with it afterwards.
--
Dave Haynie | V.P. Technology, Met@box AG | http://www.metabox.de
"If you're gonna have delusions, you might as well go for the really
satisfying ones" -Marcus Cole
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