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Aiptek AHD 200

Aiptek AHD 200



Frage von lachaim:
August 2007

Aiptek HD camcorder for 200 euro

"Apitek is an HD camcorder: the PocketDV AHD 200 can movies with 720p (1,280 x 720 pixels) and 30 frames per second record and uses the H.264 codec. Serve as storage media SD and SDHC cards. Technically offers the device has a 4-times digital zoom, a 5-megapixel sensor and a rotary-air 2.4-inch display. "

Source: Chip. May (why always synonymous?) Unfortunately, no URL to post ..

What is it to hold? Okay .. without optical zoom, I can create life but the part about 30 frames in HD mode? I think there are hardly any! Who had ever been such a "cheap" HD-Cam probiert? This comes out next month ... werd to me but certainly a look. 200 euros for "almost" HD is really a good price point of view ..



Antwort von Georg:

Here are the discussion of the sister model Z300-HD:

http://forum.slashcam.de/aiptek-pocketdv-z300-hd-vt47777.html?highlight =

There are pictures and a few of my observations about this:

http://www.video-internal.com/index.php?id=66

Here is the press release of the Aiptek AHD200:

http://www.video-internal.com/index.php?id=99



Antwort von kriss:

Thank you! That has helped me already.

Has anyone even next info? If the cam sensor is the same as installed in the Z300? Fix or Auto? Fix would be better ..








Antwort von upro:

how it looks. None has the part? würd mich mal ahd200 whether the interest is better than the Z300. especially since she now has fixed focus. makes it more bearable for the videos or whatever looks like? adjusts the sportycase to ahd200? The battery should last longer synonymous. what more would you recommend?



Antwort von Jan:

A high definition camera with digital zoom Fixfocus and only - then everything is clear ......

Fixfocus, which means it will be a s.ca 1.2 m to infinity, the same distance and the setting made in HD!

VG
Jan



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Anonymous" wrote:
(...) Without optical zoom, I can live (...)

If I still synonymous read "Fixfocus is better than Auto Focus", it is very scary. I would be that only after a negative drug test must be posted.



Antwort von Jan:

Fixfocus?

In my 1993 the doctrine cheap cameras up to about 50 DM Fixfocus - often is not really sharp picture. Aiptek As this system into an HD camera was built - is puzzling.

If you have a cheap camera to P 720, could be even more likely to Kodak EASY SHARE 1253 Z, who has least one Schneider Kreuznach drin, and 35-175 optical zoom and the AF and the same price.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Jan" wrote:
Aiptek Fixfocus ... How this system into an HD camera was built - is puzzling ...

Probably one has the capability of the company's own auto realistic ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

man, I have almost my coffee on the keyboard gespuckt ... divine!
Wars, we have a Aiptek corner-Bashing? Please Please Please Please Please Please :-)



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hello,

I hang myself with my concerns just ran here. Somehow it fits a bit relating to.
For days, I search the Internet intensively for a camera to record the videos can be synonymous. And while the videos in one-Pal Project can be used as a supplement. The advantage of a camera is the one which he is relatively small and on the other hand, you can shoot so sensible. The difference between a video camera and a camera, I am already aware that this is not the synonymous issue. It is synonymous for his private use.
In this search, we come inevitably to the sides of Sanyo (www.sanyo.de). Here there are cameras with video function (Digital Cameras) synonymous camcorder with photo function (Digital Movie). My joy at last to be found anything quickly became tarnished just because I can find the camcorder in NTSC format (640x480, 30fps) at a time. As I said, German website (. Com) and German Language.

Body I just stupid s.oder there is this "photo apparat camcorder" not in the Pal format?

Can I get a device in a compact size camera with a friend where you shoot (min 5 megapixels) and film and (Pal) can. And my quality demands are not excessive (is synonymous for the price).
What eg, "Casio EXILIM Zoom EX-Z1050. Unfortunately, 10 megapixels, but that's probably the price for which they "only" with 25 fps recording.

Please no discussion about the meaning.

Martin



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Martin Dienert" wrote:
... Casio EX-Z1050 ... 25 fps ...

PAL is therefore not yet, because the image resolution of the Z1050 is also only for a maximum of 640x480 pixels.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hello,

Quote:
PAL is therefore not yet ...

Certainly not, but it draws the camera in at 25 fps. The image can adapt (framework, scalieren ...). Also, the square pixels must be adjusted so that some circles are synonymous. And progressive images in a Project with interlaced material is safe to mix synonymous possible. All this is certainly not improved the quality.
But an adjustment of 30 to 25 fps, I think with amateurmäßigen resources of sufficient quality to almost impossible.

Martin








Antwort von Jan:

Yes I find synonymous very surprising that only (I know) Casio Z 1000 / 1050 and 1080 to the 25 P images makes.

Probably too expensive, or the European market is not that interesting?

Yes, the new Z 1200 has only 20 images, which are intended to enable Casio ....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hello,

I fear this is the same problem as the Megapixelwahn. A camera does not provide 30 fps None but want to buy.

Example:
Tschibo just sold a camera without accurate data. Why synonymous? I have now started to look and made synonymous to the manufacturer's website found. There, the data will be 640x480, 25 fps, MPEG specified. Great I thought and did in the business of Tschibo demand (read). The camera then offered but 640x480, 30 fps, MPEG-4.
Either they create is now synonymous finally the 30 fps or it really has something with the customs regulations to be done. That gave me an employee of Medimax betrayed. ;-)

A question whether their s.Panasonic cameras synonymous can deliver 25 fps with the answer was "No, only 30 or 10 fps" answered. For more info, there was not.

Some cameras provide for larger resolutions (> 640x480) only 20 fps (30fps otherwise). For me, a sign that the computing speed is not enough. 25 fps seems to be avoided - Inch?

Conclusion:
A camera for photographing and filming a video camera to buy. Schade, a combined unit would have been great. Or have a Casio 1050?

Martin



Antwort von Jan:

I admit, I'm not a Casio friend. This affects the small but current models (narrow), the 1050 has no need to hide, Still Color Image uses before they are even some prestigious company.

But somehow stays with me such a smack in my company's now look at the Casio meistumgetauschte company, particularly S Model 770 and Z s.and to 75th Casio has a pardon synonymous loose Battery Battery NP problem 20 - the batteries which I partly from defective original packaged cameras replace samples in the high double-digit fields.

Ok, 1050 Casio Z has the big Battery NP 40, there is no stress, the Camera is synonymous quite well equipped. From neat ideas like Rapid Flash (Series picture with flash) or Past Movie (yes is now Panasonic copies of pre Record - SD 5), or the Data function of S 770 & 880 (Everything somehow can be printed, can be applied to the cameras loaded, so you can like a PowerPoint presentation without a PC hold only a small Casio and AV cables to the projector or TV) are remarkable.

Casio has improved since its new Engine II Processor synonymous a little forward motion - the new models beweißen das Man remembers them by their Camera Image Neuling but partly.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Martin Dienert:

Hi Jan,

thanks for the info, is good about the object of desire to know.

And yes I have a little time.

Martin



Antwort von schorhr:

Hello,
we have the AHD-200 purchased and are actually very happy with it. Comparison to a 220 Euro camcorder we almost bought two years earlier may have to keep up-AHD synonymous when the optical zoom is missing. However, I have often heard that zoom Aiptek z300HD with poorly focused and produces noise when zooming.
If the zoom of the AHD at least 200 from the 5-megapixel sensor instead would draw the picture to 1280x720 interpolated, it would be even better.

As the synonymous was the quality of the video is for the sensational price. The sharpness of the old camcorder was even worse, and even in bright indoor shots was very difficult to salvage something.
The AHD made even at difficult lighting conditions at night at the Christmas market still useable images synonymous when you obviously can not perform miracles.

The menu is simple, intuitive, and with a few exposure settings I miss nothing.
It is an inexpensive, lightweight camera for recording the non-professional, but nevertheless should be rich detail than with a discount camcorders.
131.95 for 2 GB memory card with the camera was very cheap (in the last few weeks, but again they have become more expensive, possibly because of Christmas?).
Who expected that the price for an HD camcorder from the initial segment of 500-700 euro, there will be bitterly disappointed.
As a fun camera but still worth your money, depending of the priorities and needs of the buyer of course.

Schön is synonymous that have Default Batteries (NP-60, is in some digital cameras for example). Cheap brands are there so for 3-10 euros in various online shops and of course on eBay and even at Deal Extreme.

Conclusion that the money was very well invested. Perhaps it is sometime the camcorder for a full progressive HD recording, but until then the Aiptek is your purpose, no more and no less.
Also, the memory quickly, thanks to movies on the PC, so that the memory card rather an advantage than a disadvantage compared to the tapes are cheaper.

Conclusion
+ Economy
+ Amazing quality for the price
+ Relatively tollerant in bad light
+ Extensive accessories (software, cables, bag, etc.)
+ Digital camera, video camera and voice recorder with many settings (night mode, Resolutions, etc.)
+ Very good handling
+ Some Programs are included in the package, but you can but synonymous with programs such as Avidemux or quick cut with Virtualdub and Quicktime.vdplugin
+ Videos Of memory play is about much more comfortable than DV tapes
+ Batteries favorable
+ About USB Loadable


-No optical zoom, digital zoom at least soft-propelled
- Audio Moderate; Missing microphone input. Depending on the firmware version too quiet, but they can be downloaded.
Battery charging time is relatively long, but replacement batteries are standard and cheap
According to Youtube, review it with SDHC cards give problems, so that videos are saved, but the camera does not show.
- Display is not switched off?
-No digital image stabilization; With VirtualDub, Quicktime.vdplugin and DeShaker reach but more than with any on-board camera Entwacklung.
-No completely manual exposure and aperture settings, but many options.
-MOV file format, but easily convertible with freeware or cut, unless the set editing program can not import MOV


Was just a shame that the camera could never try. Only Conrad had our employees is a previous model in the hand is pressed. I assume the former s.dass flash camcorder just so bad that many dealers were meanwhile refrained from taking. I had 2003 or so ever bought a plastic camcorder, which had 16 MB of internal and signed 320x240 at 15fps, but only synonymous as long as you pressed the button ;-) Since "then" has done a lot.

The only problem that I currently have is a cutting solution. Although you can with Avidemux and Virtualdub individual clips soon



Antwort von Jan:

Opinions on the Aiptek are synonymous different video asset was last on the model synonymous not particularly well expressed in the short test. Well, yes it is cheap. Ok, s.PC & Television HD would have the basic picture better than an old camera with PAL 720x576 look.

But you must be a synonymous Picture a Canon HV 10 and HV 20 or SonyHC 5 & SR 5, - this is really a different league, so synonymous by price.

VG
Jan



Antwort von svennibskciu:

In fact. Before Purchase ic wafer had some articles and reading tests.
Some are surprised by what this camera provides fun, while others grumble that the rum for a HD-camera quality is poor.

It is certainly the attitude of expectation. A video professionals who want an HD camera, and indeed expected that the AHD-200 with a 700-1000 euro camera can keep up will be bitterly disappointed.
Someone like me who has been with professional cameras worked, but now home to only a cheap DV camcorder and a Hi8 Klotz had is about the consistent price / performance ratio look.

I think a 3-chip DV camera, the AHD loose in your pocket, but for 130 euros a bit "HD-like" in their hands to think is already enormous. Aiptek just a shame that the newer firmware versions verschlimmbessert has.



Antwort von aipi tekki:

I was curious whether the synonymous sound in comparison to Z 300HD is better.
Unfortunately this is not so. Completely no preference on whether the micro display as in the Z 300HD is above or s.Gehäuse like the AHD 200 - About the tax is even worse. Once a slightly louder sound is heard like the voice or the children's voices so SOWISO are a little louder, the sound recording is totally distorted.
It is incomprehensible to me how to get something on the market. Who should buy denn sowas?
All the more incomprehensible because the video and the photos are quite appealing. simply incredible that assuming these "weak-witted" buyer to remember something but anyway ...



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"aipi tekki" wrote:

It is incomprehensible to me how to get something on the market. Who should buy denn sowas?

That should "Geil-ist-sort-of-cool" types to buy, of which this country is still a lot there. Either find a part of the huge (because it can not compare), they find it shit (but dare not admit their error), or sausage, it is as long as you recognize the pictures yet.
However, for the price you get a camera, the picture and sound recording and not even complicated. The synonymous attracts a lot of customers.
BG, Andreas








Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I think a 3-chip DV camera, the AHD loose in your pocket ...

How about with a new thread:

"Aiptek AHD 200 VS. Panasonic DVX 100?"

... WoWu and explains all the opponents of the Aiptek to heretics, because they're working with AVC.



Antwort von 00guesswho00:

So I want this camera only for slo-mo shots ... did buy because only a few questions about this conversion, since I am not so familiar ... can I change the clips after the convert with MAGIX Movie Maker or editer without loss of image quality and the 30 fps?



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

Movie Maker, you can sometimes forget ... absence of "HDV" capability. About the "loss s.Bildqualität" you can at the Aiptek certainly argue ... räusper ... but each with neucodieren editing of the final product will bring a deterioration. Sometimes only measurable, but not visible = good (expensive) encoders, sometimes distinctly visible = Compression aside until ready to be published on YouTube.
But this is not a software issue! However: what software processes on this data? AVC-cutting is not sooo easy ...
From 60 fps it is for TV purposes also adopt.
BG, Andreas



Antwort von maxi62:

The Aiptek200 for the price is already ok, but stop just synonymous for the price.
Anyone who spends 100 euros more gets a synonymous of SDR-S7 Panasonic. The only characterized Pal Standard Resolutionauf, but has 10x zoom and usable stabilizer.

Here I have again a direct comparison video for the Panasonic SDR-S7 and Aiptek AHD200 uploaded



Take a look at times. In a few minutes would have given youtube synonymous with the HD button because, then you see it even better.

You can see the video in the HD-clear resolution is not everything. Of course, the Aiptek HD Resolutionbei quiet with razor sharp images. But the slightest vibration and pans make the picture very restless and annoying. The videos of Pansasonic, the stabilizer is, therefore, can be a pleasant look.




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