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Ansteckmikro - ein paar Einsteigerfragen

Ansteckmikro - a few beginner questions



Frage von arthur:
November 2008

I would like to see Ansteckmikro growth. Unfortunately, I have 0 clue of the matter. I have the day a bit and read my little place to have. However, I would be grateful to you, if you would virtually discredited. :-)

1. I wanted me a SENNHEISER EW 122-P G2 / D-BAND Set buy. I need the system mainly for outdoor shots of Language (moderation). Is this useful?

http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_ew_122p_g2dband.htm

2. Firstly I would just like to work with. So should be 1 micro range. However, I consider later extended interviews with a second Ansteckmikro to make. Is that with this system?

3. For use outside so I will need is certainly a windbreak. The way I see is the ninth in a set or integrated? The following would be the right one?

http://www.thomann.de/de/rycote_windjammer_mini_mke.htm

If not, what is that there are alternatives?

4. In the following webshop I have the set quite favorable discovered. However, the "shop" a bit outdated from. Knows someone and has ever since the order?

http://www.pictureland.de/zubeh_Senn_Wirel.htm#DrahtloseMikrofonie

As always, thanks for your help.



Antwort von mov:

Hello,

I have just 4 new Sennheiser ew122 systems (stationary). I could wish on a few test shots.

Windscreen: it's a foam to comply with a slight breeze can withstand, but more is a coat (Rycote) is recommended. Exactly, I have not yet recorded in the open for testing only live on stage. Most important is a windshield, however, breath sounds, even if the speaker lowers his head slightly and with the nose on the Micro breathes.

It may be several plants are operated at the same time, however, each transmitter s.einen own Emfänger send a receiver can only receive one channel, otherwise there is radio interference, the entire recording to undo, I've tested it. To select multiple lavalier simultaneously operate multiple systems are necessary.
Otherwise, the radio links are very good, I'm with my old ew122-p G1 system very satisfied, except for the battery consumption of the G2 system has improved, especially the battery indicator.

The radio is for exterior shots good, as long as one does not bathe, but that applies to all non-water-proof electrical equipment. I use mostly for moderation recordings the Sennheiser me 2 Ansteckmikro (ew112-p), which has characteristics of a sphere, and thus not the disadvantages of a kidney regarding microphone handling noise and wind sensitivity. For video recordings, e synonymous smaller, but is synonymous with the sound off on.

At the Onlineshop: All prices are exclusive of VAT, so we still have it 19% it will be beaten, what the price of ¬ 554.54 is climbing. I generally buy from Thomann or used on ebay.

Gruß Stephan



Antwort von TomStg:

It depends on whether you use strictly for your stretch will need a radio. While this is often very elegant, but not required. There are synonymous very good Ansteckmicros, the cable may be used. In this case, you include the two Micros cable s.ein mixer s.and of going there in the Camera. Depending on the Micro may require phantom power, but most of the consoles shipped. These mixers are synonymous batterieversorgt.

Thomann When you're best!

Tom








Antwort von darg:

"TomStg" wrote:
It depends on whether you use strictly for your stretch will need a radio. While this is often very elegant, but not required. There are synonymous very good Ansteckmicros, the cable may be used. In this case, you include the two Micros cable s.ein mixer s.and of going there in the Camera. Depending on the Micro may require phantom power, but most of the consoles shipped. These mixers are synonymous batterieversorgt.

Thomann When you're best!

Tom


And precisely because of the elegant solution is a radio link in outdoor is the only thing. Cables are not in the way, wherever one is synonymous. Fast rebuild of Camposition without herumfurwerken with the cables easier and at zero idea of Miks one need not head phantom or other things. Important here is that the radio range and noise is just a few meters can be bridged. Everything is very user friendly.



Antwort von newsart:

shown - that I see differently. If Camera and moderator and therefore move a cable is difficult, wireless is certainly his right. If it is fixed and moderations are not uncontrollable Gerda within a crowd, so I prefer for security reasons the cable. In the radio link, it always happens that there are faults. By any related party transmitter / machine / cordless phones, etc. And often these are just very subtle faults that are in the monitoring spot is not so clear, but then s.Schnittplatz with great dismay hear. Wireless is convenient, but has its synonymous additional sources of error.



Antwort von TomStg:

In the present case, the elegant solution via radio link, in any case an expensive solution. Because of a low-noise radio route, with 2 Mics twice to be purchased, and for a still required mixer (assuming the cam is only a Toneingang), must be our Beginners spend much more money than for a wired solution. A radio link is always the most elegant and easiest solution - and not just for outdoor, but not always necessary.

Tom

PS: and for a really störfeste radio link, it will be very expensive!



Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hi,

I have the Sennheiser EW 112 so far in a small set of rotation, which went without problems. You should only not so close with the Micro s.den neck go.
When Videohjournalismus workshop Andreas Wunderlich has decided to diversity radio paths, eg MIPRO or Sony. Is it for around 750 euros instead of 550 euros for the Sennheiser therefore worth considering.

Regards, Christian



Antwort von High_Tension:

"KrischanDO" wrote:
Hi,

When Videohjournalismus workshop Andreas Wunderlich has decided to diversity radio paths, eg MIPRO or Sony. Is it for around 750 euros instead of 550 euros for the Sennheiser therefore worth considering.

Regards, Christian


I once alongside the Sennheiser AKG MIPRO and the spark gaps tested (both diversity) and no difference in terms of reception noted.
The Sennheiser makes their job even in the Comparison s.besten. AKG While not a really clean sound (Noise and vA pumps) shall have been the MIPRO quite bulky and heavy.
Apart from the Sennheiser has an adjustable frequency (the other two have not) and a display s.Sender receiver and what the troubleshooting and the levels s.den devices themselves greatly simplified.
The Sennheiser is with the aforementioned Micro again sounded technically upgrade.
I've really tried to be an alternative in the same price range (+ / - 200 ¬) to find and must say that my opinion does not exist.



Antwort von arthur:

I can just describe a little what I mean by purpose. I have a Canon XL1S, a tripod and a single mono cable with Micro. A mixer, I have not. Also no cameraman. I do everything alone.

The "Outdoor" is synonymous with me literally. I shoot films about outdoor products. Say tents, backpacks, sleeping bags, etc. So far I have always done so that I Anmoderation with the micro-cable made and then the rest s.PC via headset eingesprochen have.

What struck me when Anmoderation bother is that I always have a hand free. I can only show a little difficult. Maximum is usually a "holding" of the object inside. I think with a Ansteckmirko I would have more room for maneuver.

The second is the very time Verton s.PC. I would be happy just with the "making" something live opponent. So for example if I show how a tent is set up. With the Micro is not the inside, both hands because I need to build.

As movies are where I usually have no other people and not synonymous great potential disturbance present (forest and meadows).



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Purchase you like the Sennheiser and the windscreen.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von KrischanDO:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
Purchase you like the Sennheiser and the windscreen.

MfG
B. DeKid


Would that I might see as synonymous. Diversity is good against reflections in rooms, etc., on the lawn should not be disturbed.

Arthur, I think just by getting your hand micro recite a journalist Touch and authentic act.
But sometimes, as in the well-kept house and garden. ;-)

Regards
Christian



Antwort von arthur:

"KrischanDO" wrote:
Arthur, I think just by getting your hand micro recite a journalist Touch and authentic act.

But sometimes, as in the well-kept house and garden.


The garden is with the intention. Sure, I could for each film a great background, but the films should be very aware Unprofessionalität have a shot. This gives the user the feeling that it is honest and authentic than professional broadcasters.

But back to the Micro. I have nothing against it. I just recently found it again, as I Anmoderation trekking poles have rotated. In both hands, sticks and where do I now the Microfilm out? So sticks into the ground in, it let stand and then Micro in the right hand, left hand free ... Sah blöd aus ...








Antwort von Alan Smithee:

Did you ever have an external recorder (Zoom H2 / H4, etc.) + Ansteckmikro thought?



Antwort von arthur:

"Alan Smithee" wrote:
Did you ever have an external recorder (Zoom H2 / H4, etc.) + Ansteckmikro thought?


Phew, that would be even more work. Then I would not just play the movie on, but the synonymous separately recorded sound. And then the Fummelei then until the match is.

What is s.den radio microphones drann? All here seem to like to avoid the plague. Are not functioning? Then I wonder how Sennheiser sowas überhaupt then sell?

Some people advise me to micro cable, others too expensive diversity radio and now an external recorder. It is always doller ... :-)

EDIT: Again another question about this. The Micro, there is a ball and kidney. What should I take? Actually it or kidney? It aims primarily so my voice will be recorded. Above someone wrote but from the fact that kidney is more susceptible to wind noise. And that's just in my outdoor operations rather than less so.



Antwort von KrischanDO:

Hi Arthur,

550 ¬ if you invest, you have the Sennheiser radio link.
For ¬ 750, there is a Sony Or MIPRO both diversity. In a PCVIDEO were tested of Andreas Wunderlich, his recommendation was decided to Diversity.
If you turn with 20 people, and the sound zickt, it is also expensive.
I have the Sennheiser still can return, but thought to myself: Try something I may not be so bad.

Alone in the woods or in the garden, the Sennheiser go, you can indeed synonymous well turn again, if you have a crackling drin hast.

Regards, Christian



Antwort von heimax:

I film in the dog training area, I have the Sennheiser radio link 122 P with Microphone with Kugelchartaktristik. Removal of the Spokesman for the Camera is between 5 and 25 meters. Common areas in buildings over. We had never been synonymous only the smallest problem, and I use the foam windscreen. On the finished DVD is the sound better than most after listening s.der Camera is to be expected. Camera is a SonySR11 without Tonregelung but with Köpfhörerausgang.
I can unconditionally recommend the part.
Gruss max



Antwort von arthur:

I now have something herumgesucht. If there is so much value placed on diversity, which would then MIPRO MR90 with the set?

http://www.msw-showtechnik.com/start.php?d_BDMP482722_MIPRO_MR_90_VF_Kameraset_Sender__Empfanger_inkl__Koffer.php

Taste 620 Eurofighters there. That would have been still in the frame. Have unfortunately only little shops found to have. Because somebody knows any other stores that have the set?

It could also have the Micro Omnidirectional. Fits this? Or rather what with kidney looking for voice recordings?

Thirdly, I have not found suitable for windscreens. Someone an idea?



Antwort von deti:

So we use synonymous in professional outdoor productions package SENNHEISER EW 100 ENG G2 / D-BAND (http://www.thomann.de/de/sennheiser_ew_100_eng_g2.htm). Why?

Diversity reception is especially useful when many strong signals about the same through reflections s.direkt surrounding areas (such as several houses or rooms / hall walls) arrive at the receiver. In this scenario, a receiver with multipath phase shift by the time differences of the signals and the sounds used in the modulation of radio frequency micro-systems to completely distorted very noisy at.

That was part of the theory: Who out there in nature, in the garden or in the park filming is usually a mostly organic and is very poorly reflective environment find. There is usually not with a disadvantage due to normal recipients can be expected. WELB if it is really to a fault by multipath reception, then this is usually synonymous in fractions of a second, again because either the sender, the receiver or object s.dem the reflected signal has been moved.

Conclusion: you purchase the cheap Sennheiser package for just ¬ 700 and you'll have a lot of fun. Important: For both transmitters simultaneously operate them you need a second necessarily synonymous EK 100 G2 receiver separately (price around 400 ¬).



Antwort von High_Tension:

"Arthur" wrote:
I now have something herumgesucht. If there is so much value placed on diversity, which would then MIPRO MR90 with the set?


I have exactly the same way as you thought. Everyone screams "diversity" and we think at once that the lot must be better than non Diversity sparks. And as has already been written: It makes no difference in my opinion. And I have the Funktstrecken in a small room in the music store tested.

What are the characteristics: it has only the micro, not the radio link itself Teste Just look at the Sennheiser with the MKE2 Gold Micro and I promise you, you will be satisfied!



Antwort von B.DeKid:

For purposes of your ball not kidney.

Take the Sennheiser because you had linked to Thomann for under 600Euro enough THICKNESS.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von mov:

The radio link between these Sennheiser even without diversity is very good, I had on my normal distances with Sennelager Heiser systems (non diversity) radio has never been problems, except for a double occupancy rate.









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