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Frage von Gast295:
November 2007

So I have a problem here. Certain place, I just to stupid.

Have a recording made in HDV. The material I've captured.
Recording: HDV 25F (canon xh-a1) 1920 x 1080th
Play begins at schonmal yes. I can not more than I PPR CS3 HDV 1080p with 1440 x 1080 dial.

So I tried it so. Have everything prepared and then exported. First of all, simply on "Export" - "Film ..." and the appropriate setting and then on the Adobe (Adooobeeeee;)) Media Encoder. But no preference what I do s.Ende I get a movie file in the 4:3 to the total length is drawn.

I hope I can help someone.

And to all the recordings are abound synonymous nor ugly, because I have a lot to gain high-value and thus have a lot Graining there. The display was still in class ..... now it does nothing to the cause but I just had to get rid of: D



Antwort von beiti:

All 1080i HDV camcorder, only in 1440 x 1080 on (rectangular pixels). If you've thought, writes the A1 Full HD onto tape, I must disappoint you, which is in HDV - Standard simply not foreseen. (In PAL 16:9 is indeed always in 720 x 576 recorded and broadcast. If there is no problem if it is accurately reproduced.)

The correct presentation is for the reproduction program. Simple player may ignore the format and information to do so, as if they were square pixels. Then you have eggs heads on the screen.



Antwort von Gast295:

OK, 1440 x 1080 should be my right. Nevertheless, to me that the clip in Quicktime and VLC as wrong.








Antwort von beiti:

What do you expect with the film s.Ende happen? So which version is the objective?



Antwort von Gast295:

Goal is the 1440 x 1080 recording in a just such filmdaei to export. So 1440 x 1080 16:9, is clearly yes.

But it will simply not succeed. Somewhere must be a tiny bug inside his.



Antwort von beiti:

"Gast295" wrote:
Goal is the 1440 x 1080 recording in a just such filmdaei to export.
But what happens with the movie file? Playing back to your camcorder? Skip s.PC watch? On BluRay burn?

If you have native HDV playing back to tape (which receives the full quality), not much can really go wrong. It should be an option synonymous give the same quality as the original file to save (ie without Neucodierung).

The Media Encoder you need the best of my knowledge, only if you convert into another format will. Why you should want?



Antwort von Gast295:

The file is simply on the land and hire festplatte later be burned on dvd.



Antwort von WoWu:

@ 295 guest
.. but computational times: 1440x1080 is a 4:3 format. (1440 / 4 * 3 = 1080)

If you're out there want to do 16:9, you need the whole thing in the wide draw!



Antwort von beiti:

I can not tell you how to turn in the APP HDV original quality outputs (hab itself still an older version that can not HDV), but it would have to find out. In any case, I see no reason why you get the film in any other format should be, which is only time and quality would cost.



Antwort von WoWu:

@ Beiti

... only if he does nothing s.dem format, all have long necks in the pictures. Um's ent-(ver) he will not lug around come.



Antwort von beiti:

"WoWu" wrote:
... only if he does nothing s.dem format, all have long necks in the pictures. Um's ent-(ver) he will not lug around come.
No, I do not think so. One problem with rectangular pixels, only some (bad) computer player. But he wants the film did not perform s.PC, but save time later and burn to DVD. For DVD it needs then 720 x 576 pixels (the pixel is a ratio of 5:4). So why now of 4:3 to 16:9 wide, when then back to 5:4-pixel rectangle runterskaliert be? Each intermediate step unnecessary costs but only quality.
When times BluRay burners are affordable, you will have to see whether there directly 1440 x 1080 and can burn it spends each player correctly, or whether it is customary to 1920 Width extrapolation. But that is indeed currently not yet on.
In any case, we now qualitatively nothing wrong, if the smart-rendered original format for archive purposes receives.



Antwort von Gast295:

"WoWu" wrote:
@ 295 guest
.. but computational times: 1440x1080 is a 4:3 format. (1440 / 4 * 3 = 1080)

If you're out there want to do 16:9, you need the whole thing in the wide draw!


Ok. Stupid of me. But what should I choose for now?








Antwort von WoWu:

... there has Beiti course absolutely right ... SD I had somehow no longer on the screen and am always out of HD ...



Antwort von Gast295:

I will now just with 720 x 576 sample



Antwort von beiti:

1440 x 1080 has just a 4:3 format as PAL 720 x 576 5:4 format. The pixel aspect ratio has nothing to do with the video aspect ratio to be done. (I think that this issue here in the forum already has been discussed in detail.)

Quote:
SD I had somehow no longer on the screen and am always out of HD ...
Even in HD, there are (unfortunately) have rectangular pixels. In HDV 1080i, it is standard in AVCHD at least one of the variants.



Antwort von beiti:

"Gast295" wrote:
I will now just with 720 x 576 sample
Then you can directly synonymous DVD output.



Antwort von WoWu:

... I learn so happy about this, and have in the AVC standard skipped but where there are rectangular pixels defined?



Antwort von beiti:

"WoWu" wrote:
... I learn so happy about this, and have in the AVC standard skipped but where there are rectangular pixels defined?
If 1440x1080 for 16:9 are foreseen, but are rectangular pixels. Or there is another definition?
http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html



Antwort von Maik:

It is important to the target format.

If a DVD should be, then that is when HDV source material
usefully Ultimately 720x576 16:9.
On the PC, the most PAL 16:9 material stretched out, because some
Players the 16:9 flag fails to interpret. That makes usder Quicktime Player
what I find quite a Armutszeignis. Importantly, despite everything, always
every step of 16:9 set.
If you have the DVD authoring with Encore DVD (there's is still in PPRO CS3?)
, then you have to be synonymous with the hand, the 16:9 set, otherwise displays
it runs on (at least for me in version 1.5).
Finally, then from the DVD player to 16:9 mode and the Picture
correctly.
So let you of the view in one of the intermediate steps are not crazy
make. Eighth thing that always 16:9 (or the corresponding pixels - Aspect ratio,
I think something rather 1:1,4 is 1.066).

True 16:9 is also full 720x576 without black bars for a
higher horizontal resolution to preserve, so there will be only in the last
Step, so to speak, from the 576 lines to ~ 480. Older devices
16:9 dominate not just play the normal 4:3 that there are
But today not many.

Gruß,

M.



Antwort von beiti:

Still, a general advice: Regardless of format, I would, if this is technically possible is always the finished video in original quality archive. You never know what you in a few years so want to do (unless it's just what updates, what happens in two years no longer interested Sau).
Lack of better ways to convert to HD today in all sorts of format (square pixels-16: 9 for Web video, Resolutionfür SD-DVD, etc.), but the distribution media for full HD-quality stand in front of the door (HD-DVD and BluRay), and if you are already filming in HD, you will someday synonymous exploit.

HDV makes it relatively easy. Virtually all programs can cut HDV natively (only with smart rendering) and edit s.Ende synonymous spend again. If the camcorder a Firewire input, you can play back to tape. Otherwise, you have a file on hard drive write.

With AVCHD is even more difficult. Most editing programs convert AVCHD immediately after capturing in MPEG2 or another intermediate format, making it with the average loss-free past. (Native AVCHD editing will probably only make sense with faster computers possible.) Then I would but at least the finished unchanged MPEG2 store.



Antwort von WoWu:

@ Beiti

You're lying there a few times and thoroughly wrong as you can see what wrong Informtionen in effect forums.

1) H.264 AVC says not a single word about pixels forms because it is a bitstream is.

2) image formats are defined SMPTE and EBU. The last time that this pixel on forms of writing, was at DV. There has SMPTE non square pixel "explicitly admitted. When HD is not back.

3) The Page, which is of you anführst Sony & Panasonic, a company presentation on the subject of AVCHD

4) SMPTE describes as the only HD format 1920x1080 and 1240x720
How the company will then come and let them form the quality feature of the Manufacturer.
Scans with a full Resolution1920x1080 that is likely the best quality. Scans with a 1440 s.and generates Resolutionkünstlich, this is just his own quality. At this and a few other things the consumer can also distinguish between "good" and "less good" differ.

5) There is no reason of AVC to MPEG to convert, because it is a tale that would make not edit AVC.
There are extensive studies at the University of Rostock, and proof of the real practitioners as synonymous Marco have confirmed here in the forum.
So, what you there is widespread or is utter nonsense s.Unvermögen your computer or constellation.

6) When a release of original material in AVC MPEG essential qualities are lost!
So if you are already recommend, in the best possible quality to save, then the MPEG2 safely with nothing more to do.
That is just as you would someone who absorbs IR, recommend to save in VHS.








Antwort von Beethoven69:

Gaaaanz slightly slowly complained of me to suspect that the AVC of WoWu - powerful lobby is sponsored ...



Antwort von WoWu:

... You see, You're lying again wrong ....




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