Logo Logo
/// 
Dreck von altem Bandlaufwerk auf Kassette übertragbar?

Filth of the old tape drive on tape transferable?



Frage von jangool:
Mai 2008

Hello together,

my old Panasonic GS29, after 5 years the spirit abandoned it only plays tapes without sound and jerky from qietscht is pretty synonymous in the drive. I do not know why this is, but according to sift through this forum read that the use of different Manufacturer tapes do not do well in this camera, I pointed but not respected. So suppose, therefore, the heads (?) Is dirty or have been damaged.

I have now with the GS500 purchased. Coils doing the old camera still, so at least halfway. I had about the tapes of my new camera in the old to rewind (the tape drive to spare, as I have read here that you should change the yes), or did yesterday synonymous with the first 6 minutes of my new camera has already done so. Is it advisable to introduce a new fresh tape in the old camera to rewind and then again in the new action? I thought vllt (should really be dirty heads) could be the "filth" from the old with the new tape drive is something possible?

I'll leave it the moment before I have no concrete answers ...
Gruß Jenny

Edit from Mod: thread under the heading "camcorder generally" moved.



Antwort von Markus:

"jangool" wrote:
... it only plays tapes without sound and jerky from qietscht is pretty synonymous in the drive.

This is then not s.verschmutzten video heads, but s.massivem wear or even a defect. There are parts of a tape drive, which of time to time need to be, what in your GS29 seems to be the case. There is possibly synonymous an increased risk that band makes salad, so I would assume the new camcorder to the tapes umzuspulen.

The possibility that the dirt from one drive onto another, is comparatively low, and cleaning cartridges cost synonymous not the world.



Antwort von jangool:

Thanks for the quick reply:)

Quote:
This is then not s.verschmutzten video heads, but s.massivem wear or even a defect.


Mhh, na I said yes, I do not know why it is only ne conjecture. Basically, it is synonymous to me no preference, just the tapes, I will then no longer in their coils ...

A cleaning tape, I will still up, after a search of Pana, so I even synonymous with a stick variety, wants nothing to risk;) My old by the way, I have the old Camera durchgejagd already (of course only the recommended 10 sec), has s.der Gesamstsituation but nothing changed ... Well shame would be a nice "Capture bitch" has become the new order to spare, but then I'll consider something else ...








Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

@ Markus
The issue has long been synonymous me but have never thought of here and ask.
I always fear I of the bands that I take on holiday somehow the salt, which is in the air is somehow to get all the tapes I insert. So far, I have after 5years no problem with that but I am each year anew.
Or because I am a head over it for nothing.



Antwort von Frank B.:

Hello Andreas,
s.Strand when shooting in the desert or s.anderen places s.denen Schwebteilchen can occur, I would guess the Camera abzukleben. This means above all the columns s.Laufwerksschacht with a tape to seal. Also not possible to change cassettes. How can the lives of its camera and the tape extend crucial.
If the tapes at home in the camera run properly, you can assume that the tapes and heads are not dirty. Thus, nothing synonymous to other cameras or tapes to be transferred.
ME is the penetration of dirt particles in the system drive - tape harmful for the camera, as for the tapes. The very fast rotating head drum "sweeps" the tape after a certain time clean. If the video heads, the head drum or the drive synonymous roles should be damaged, it is with the fun. Then you can give synonymous further destroy tapes. The relationship tape - the drive is, of course, a reciprocal relationship. I can therefore only sometimes with the head shake when I see how some deal with their tapes. This must, of course, just to dust and climatic influences, as the drive (after removal from the camera immediately into the cassette shell and then preferably in a sealable plastic bag or a dust-tight container)
As much as possible in advance to ensure that nothing in the system can penetrate.

Frank



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Yes, with the slots of the tape, I would have tried but the TRV33 is damn hard to handle. That's a lot of corners and edges where you can not go.

The other points where you aufführst, With the accession of eight am always very very aktribisch but it is in the air simply because the salt and can still be as careful as you want.
I have had interesting times with the tongue on the tape housing geleckt and this is clearly very salty, I think it can only with bags or Unterwassercase protect.
And only 14 days with bag or case to film is not exactly synonymous of great advantage. I really think if problems should thus be the Cam in the workshop helps everything else nothing.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"AndreasBloechl" wrote:
... have always scared I of the bands that I take on holiday somehow the salt, which is in the air is somehow to get all the tapes I insert. So far, I have after 5years no problem with that but I am each year anew. Or because I am a head over it for nothing.

It is always good to think about, before a fault occurs, but you can quickly synonymous over the top and see problems, which are apparently even when you never have occurred. I have in my previous life s.Meer usual three years and then had my camcorder (1-of Chipper Sharp) almost every day there when I am in the port, in watts, on the levee or in the immediate hinterland was underway. Besides the mandatory UV Camera Filters had no protection, it was covered with synonymous nothing - and it still works just as easily as s.ersten day.
Who knows: Maybe harms although salty, but otherwise very clean coastal air s.der a camcorder less than the rotation in a big city, where the unit of all sides with industrial and automobile exhaust fumes will vollgeblasen?

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Yes, you have the right again synonymous. With us on the land could be synonymous to the dust of the meadows extreme than even the salt in the air.
The salt in conjunction with condensation glued halt very quickly but it is intended for other particles as bad.
But many thanks for your opinion.



Antwort von Markus:

Since the other questions are already answered, I would only be on the following aspect:

"AndreasBloechl" wrote:
... I am of the bands that I take on holiday somehow the salt, which is in the air is somehow to get all the tapes I insert.

That the tape in a MiniDV tape is dirty, it is very unlikely. As long as the cartridge is not in your camcorder, it is well sealed all around. If it is inserted, the s.offene part because of the now closed drive protected. This protection is not one hundred percent, but the magnetic tape storage is not synonymous requires a clean room.

If the tape is running, is always just a small section outside the protective tape in the drive on the road. It takes a few seconds until the tape is recorded and on the other back into the cassette to the coil is wound. Then one more turn and the next layer of tape sets to the existing part and thus protects it against further contact with the outside world. The tape itself has no significant contact with harmful influences of the outside influence on the camcorder.

Extreme situations in which this protective mechanism fails, it can always happen naturally (eg, if the camcorder falls into the sea -> salt water enters), but this is no ordinary situation.



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

Alright, I think you have made me skeptical.
Thank you for your further comments and tips.




Antworten zu ähnlichen Fragen:
Neue externe Edel-Festplatten LaCie Mobile Drive und Mobile Drive Secure mit bis zu 5 TB
30 Year Old IMAX Film Projector
160 Year Old Cinema Ancestor Working Again
ASA of some 33+ year old 16mm film
Seagate stellt modulare Speicherlösung Lyve Drive vor
Formula 1: Drive to Survive - Staffel 3 | Offizieller Trailer | Netflix
Follow Focus - Zacuto Z-drive oder was anderes?
ARTE: Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
Blackmagic Cloud Store 1.0.3 bringt Synchronisation per Google Drive und mehr
Neue externe SanDisk Professional G-Drive Festplatten mit USB 3.2 Gen2 und bis zu 22 TB
FEELWORLD FW279S (3G SDI) + D-Tape anschließen
Gaffer Tape Empfehlung
Video 8 Tape Rettung/Digitalisierung in Wien
Export to tape: dropped frame - Problem
Camcorder -> immer Akku + Tape raus?

















weitere Themen:
Spezialthemen


16:9
AI
ARD
AVCHD
AVI
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
After effects
Apple Final Cut Pro
Audio
Avid
Avid Media Composer
Cam
Camcorder
Camera
Canon
Capture
Capturing
Clip
EOS
Editing
Effect
Error
Export
File
Files
Film
Final Cut
Format
Formate
HDR
Import
JVC
Layer
Light
MAGIX video deLuxe
Magix
Microphone
Monitor
Movie
PC
Panasonic
Pinnacle
Pinnacle Studio
Player
Premiere
RAM
RED
Recording
Red
Software
Sony
Sound
Studio
TV
Tape
Video
Videos