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HD Rekorder wo?

HD recorder where?



Frage von GuitarRy:
November 2006

good morning my friends camera,

because I am now the xl h1've worried, I'm now on the search for a hard disk recorder. did you hire a source where you are slightly on the technology can inform? the hd recorders should not necessarily move (back to top). it may alternatively synonymous on the computer where the control goes. hauptsache no more tapes. ^ ^ Too many bad experiences with regard to dependency on tapes. (XL1 kurzschluiss and even the firewire port putt.) etc halt.
würd me a look antwort

Filmmakers grüße
eur
Gary



Antwort von r.p. television:

Hello.

I also have a XL H1 and myself then (May 2006) equal to the Purchase Firestire Focus (HD version with 80GB disk) mitbestellt because I am because of some magazines articles fear of the HDV dropouts had.

I now copy of a letter to me s.COMO (the German distribution) and my shop, because the error was something big and one hours otherwise I would sit here.

In the advertising of the manufacturer or the German sales Como was advertised that one with the fire doors at the same time, tape and hard drive as a recording medium can use it with the fire doors, but reliable records. Therefore, it could be on the tape recording refrain entirely synonymous.

First let me say that I am strangely with HDV dropouts was much less than even DV CAM (Although larger gauge) or DV - no preference whether cheap or expensive tapes of Panasonic or Sony. Only as a reference point: Approximately every four hours until it comes times to a dropout. I find this remarkable and so you can absolutely live. No tape media can reach a better reliability.

Second, my experience with the Fire misserabel gates so that I returned it immediately did.

Reason
or reasons.

1. As a backpack for use directly in the recording, he was very cumbersome to use and the battery power was synonymous with 90 minutes is not enough. Purchased and a Battery would not the solution, because once the battery installed, he can not solve. Como Answer: Yes, that's a bit strict. Answer outlet: Better do not try, because the last device is damaged. With this knowledge in the background, it was possible to me with gentle Try not to solve the Battery.

2. The Gates Fire sparked absolutely unreliable from the recording. You should always check the display, whether the recording is running or not, which is of the actual tasks of a rather distracted cameraman (motifs, sharpness, exposure, etc.) Why was I could not fathom. Time ran the recording (coupled with the REC/PAUSE- button s.Camcorders) - but about every
10th times without any warning not.

3. The Gates Fire s.Beginn the clip caused serious disturbances or dropouts (red Picture 5 frames long). And at approximately every
15th Clip synonymous emerged in the middle of the clip (even after several minutes) a significant drop of several frames of up to half a second. And even worse, then ran the sound delay next. Imagine the increased effort in post-production!
Also started the clips on the hard drive about 1 second later than on the tape. Justification in the sale: If you combined tape / disk recording setting, the preferred pathway to the camcorder tape. Technically, it is the Firewire output so at a later recording. However, since the recording trigger and the significant drop of the Fire gate too uncertain for important footage is not necessary the risk of the tape recording omit.

4. I was on the hard drive recorded material on the XL H1 is not directly watch, ie the spot I could not even verify that the images on the hard disk safe or not. What with the score 2-3 so a Russian roulette equivalent.
With a Z1, I was able to view the photographs, strangely enough. Distribution Como assured that I am, however, at each camera could be recording in the camcorder via firewire consider. But I personally think that the camera only with the FX1/Z1 was developed and tested.


Conclusion: Only one of the four reasons are already a KO criterion for the Fire FOCUS gates.
Another hard disk recorder for native HDV recording and playback of my knowledge there was not.

Sony will shortly adopt a hard disk recorder to bring out, probably just like the gates to the Fire 1700, - Euro will cost. It is certainly more reliable - the question is whether he properly with the XL H1 does.

My tip:
Since I am not synonymous only to the poor also batchbare HDV Tapes wants to leave, I buy at the Media Markt me about every three months a USB2.0 external 500-Gbyte disk. The cost is currently less than 200, --



Antwort von prem:

hey dear rp journalist.,
I would firstly like to mcih for your very detailed answer thanks.
with the info you've given me so far I could make much progress. personal experiences with the technology so far I could not win but now I have them. my xl h1 should remain in the mobile business.
ie on the shoulder with recorders. the info I'm so far pursued, I could see that such a disk recorders usually directly s.out uses. fire wire is on me now completely new.
now it is a bit confusing for me because I actually of the firewire port wanted to get away.
but if I have a disk recorders'm also forced the firewire port to use then the plates recorders no alternative for me. now synonymous well as I could remove the tapes and then by Digitizer tv recorders. but experience shows that I have experienced great qualitätsverluiste. The cause is s.diesem happened after s.der My guess is not yet mature technology of the HDV format on tapes.
but thank
I think I am speaking with them daily times
lieb grüß0e Gary








Antwort von Markus:

"rp television" wrote:
First let me say that I am strangely with HDV dropouts was much less than even DV CAM ...

But this is very unusual. Was the DV / DVCAM camcorder probably overdue for a drive cleaning or maintenance? Otherwise react only Monday devices and so because you have several (or did), this possibility is not in question ...



Antwort von frywa:

Video Hello Friends,

The statements about the Focus Firestire I can not agree explain. I use this product regularly and have never had a problem with dropouts or interact with Battery.
This device is for me absolutely io

MfG Frywa



Antwort von r.p. television:

@ markus:
Had two cameras with DV Cam and one recorder. The devices were all new and are of myself as a regular maintenance synonymous cleansed. Likewise, the HDV devices that I own.

I could hardly believe that HDV (at least on my devices), so has high safety reserves.

@ frywa:

Possible that you have a sophisticated device. Or you use the FX1 or Z1.
The fact was that even though my camera is not specified with the Fire Gates has cooperated and then only if faulty.

But the fact that so Como faulty equipment s.die customers sent and man involuntary test pilot, is very annoying.




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