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Frage von BigAl:
Januar 2007

Hi,

as I said in another post had written before the purchase is between a SonyFX1/FX7 or Canon XH-A1. I read for days like a crazy on the net and around - the more I read - the more confused I am.

Specifically, the issue Lowlight me (and obviously some others :-(). How, then, is this issue to be evaluated? Sure, the XH-A1 is probably the best when it comes to Lowligh goes well beyond the FX1 and then comes the FX7. What I often movies are events, usually in the professional lighting and sound engineer are in use (so much light / dark / colorful sound and games, etc. I tend to get as ready mix).

Now again the question:

From what begins Lowlight? Has anyone experience with the shooting of events and concerts with one of the cams (wahtscheinlich only because other FX1 too new). According to current test reports in "Video Aktiv Digital" I tend to almost FX7. Just Lowlight?

Many greetings and erstmal THANKS

Alex

PS.: Since it is the reading on the network by many like me there would be times but maybe a good idea of exactly these three cameras (or other synonymous) juxtaposed with the statements for whom or for which area is suitable. The problem is that in reality I rarely test pictures or movies :-) synonymous parts have many functions which are "nice to have" but are unnecessary. Or did you all think: "Better have and not need than need and not have it." And all the tests are almost always only with numbers, measurements and full facts that are not really meaningful for the actual practice, fitness for a particular purpose are ... As with audio systems. They are more expensive the better their values are. Only those who listen to certain limit s.einer still a difference?



Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

but often we had the discussion with the Ion FX 7:

Sony HDR-FX1, FX7-or-canon-xh-a1 -

FX1-the-successor-sony-hdr-FX7 -

I often movies with FX 7, have the disadvantages and advantages already in the thread purely written. Lowlight FX FX 1 vs. 7? Is roughly equal, FX 1 has a little brighter picture but not much, but FX has 7 Thanks to CMOS sensors for what little smear concert film definitely a plus point is (no / little light strips persons and objects "obscure")

A 1 is already much better since his test pictures with digital video assets.
The test pictures FX FX 7 vs. 1 of video can be found in the penultimate issue.

In the second thread I have a couple of times just to test images, it shows the weakness in weak light from Queen PD 170 - not exactly take, there was little time and have held it only briefly, stage lighting was almost out, only a few white spots were at.

VG
Jan



Antwort von BigAl:

Hi Jan,

know both threads. The problem is the practicality. My idea was then that I prefer something s.der luminous einbüse and to have an uncomplicated camera. The Canon is yes in many discussions (mostly English, unfortunately) already discussed that this set would be too complicated. For FXen would have the advantage of faster s.Ziel to be (with the halt of the light Einbuse). When it is dark, the Camera brauch synonymous nothing more to see. Will not a night vision device to buy :-)

Thanks and greetings

Alex








Antwort von Jan:

A pity I can give you, unfortunately, still no FX 7 concerts materials, because the degree is, on average, and the cutter always known how little time.

Believe me, it looks pretty good, despite the aforementioned fact of light slumber Sonyunbekannten weakness. If the complete concert lighting s.ist, is the picture worth seeing, because the CMOS sensor is a darker picture bring but at the same DB number less noise.

I had often been synonymous with the Consumerbeliebten Panasonic GS 500, the honor, FX 7, the concert recordings in very loose - synonymous in DV mode. I feel the fundamental picture for moderate light with the PD 170 (The camera itself for many users) is not better than, in the FX 7 must not only be schlummrig - then cut them off.

If the FX 7 Stark similar light as the VX 2100 / PD 170, would you probably buy each.

FX 1 / Z 1, but really not much more light, the manual Tonaussteuerung outside and Wide Anglespricht the better but for the older models.

Yes, I use a jack - XLR adapter for the sound, well it goes - XLR directly into the camera would have been desirable as with the Canon XH A 1 So bad but I would not see the Canon, although I with XM 2 and XL 1 ambiguous experiences had once with a good basic setup - eg of the proboscis (Wolfgang Winne) is half the battle already pure.





Antwort von BigAl:

Hi Jan,

na das war doch mal 'ne super answer. Thank you very much! As I said: If it's dark, then the recorded synonymous quiet dark. I stick mostly with the brightening (Aperture pressure, etc.) subtly back, because I so the mood synonymous with net foul or recorded. It will hold my first camera in the magnitude ... It is important to me synonymous halt that I found during the recording with not too much stress and so have to date, particularly as it always is bad s.den parameters during the recording rumzuschrauben. Auto Part is synonymous' ne feine Sache ...

Passt now not quite relating to but "if I had you ever s.Rohr ...": What do you do if you notice in the recording that is expected to resist bright. Aperture is not a very "smooth". You can see that is always very strong. In the automatic make even the cheapest cameras quite linear and smooth. How regels Du sowas in manual mode? Hast Du da synonymous' nen tip for me :-)

Many greetings
Alex



Antwort von Jan:

Hi Alex,

synonymous please get some other FX 7 Opinion that s.Besten but users of the camera with film.

Yes I film almost light slumber only scenes and interview, if possible, of the Second synonymous with a 3 point lighting properly lit, unfortunately, we need to set the lights often borrow stock is not always - yes, the love Money.

The situations often have you auto open aperture of f 1.6 and F 2,8 telemarketing and can not even close to the Picture "dark" in order to make it again to reinforce.

The shutter speed 1 / 50 sec "purely banging is sometimes mandatory, so that the camera is not on the idea comes with a 1 / 25 or longer time to expose what a botch motion resolution.

Gain stop depending on the situation, if possible, not much more than 6-9 DB.

In Aperture argue that even some experienced filmmakers, some of my PD 170 owners (I think that's synonymous so) when the aperture in the automatic control leaves, the jumps of Aperture Aperture Aperture to homogeneous, ie as if for a light dimmer daheim the light slowly zurückdreht if you choose the Aperture manual
and concludes there is, in my opinion bigger jumps (brightness changes) as roughly as if the dimmer is moving quickly. I think this should be due to the Sonynur in big steps in the Aperture manual election changed.

The others control the Aperture synonymous prefer fully manual, with more light synonymous useful to the depth limit, which is the FX 7 is not easy - is using a small holding 1 / 4 "sensors, as you can in just a little telephoto reach. The Picture is in principle almost always sharp.

If I then look in good light movies, is the built Graufilter for me the first choice for light to take the Sony models the filmmakers say yes please Graufilter 1 or Graufilter 2 da can not even newcomers as much wrong.

The FX 7 has synonymous Iris 3 different speeds, you can even set whether soft be dimmed.

My camera Friend (longstanding PD 170 filmmakers) thought synonymous FX 7 has fewer of these PD aperture 170 jumps, that is probably better.

VG
Jan




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