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Kein 50i bei QT-Export!?

No 50i for QT export?



Frage von Anne Nerven:
April 2011

Hello Avid User,
I get noHalbbilder in Quicktime export from my HDV Project.
Captured HDV 1080i, flip-flop (because 35mm adapter) as FX in Videospur1, Color correction in Spur2, no mixdown, all FX rendered.
No matter what I use Compression: Animation, DNxHD (50i 120 8-bit), JPEG Still Image

Then I stumbled because I exported the clip to a 50fps-comp (After FX) and imported with the single image viewing'm note the repetition of the images only. So NO50 separate fields are visible. The clips are automatically during import into AE as "progressive" interpretation. Similarly, in TMPG. Only the Still Image JPEG clip is automatically recognized as an "upper field", but still only shows repeats. And by the way still looks terrible. It changes nothing synonymous when all clips in AE manual be changed to "Interlace".

Where do I make the mistake? I can click the Export Settings and select dozens of variants of a wolf, always the same result: progressive. Can this possibly associated with the flip-flop?

According to Avid help print but always in 25p projects frames but my project is 1080i.

I use MC 5.3

Greetings,
Dirk



Antwort von dienstag_01:

50i is after all only in a 25fps project.
And not the AE recognizes the field dominance is, not that it nogibt.



Antwort von Anne Nerven:

The 50i runs in 25fps should be clear, otherwise we would double the length. It's not about that Halbbildominanz is not recognized, but that there is no NO50 fields.

It can be done in Avid. set in the setting of the comp DNxHD, if it should be encoded in 25p or 50i. Only the result is unfortunately the same: progressive.








Antwort von dienstag_01:

I said, you have the load into a 25fps project (you have written 50fps). "See" And you can see the fields in AAE (not always to be cobbled together an image), but this is only a matter of presentation in the preview window.



Antwort von Anne Nerven:

You can change Komp setting of 25 to 50fps and see all the fields. 50i 50 separate images with resolution to be recorded using half. It is not a full divided image into two half-images. These 50 fields, you can all watch the units in AE with 50fps.

There are so synonymous deinterlacing plugins, and these are used in a 50fps sequence. Not in a 25fps sequence.



Antwort von dienstag_01:

Quote:
You can change Komp setting of 25 to 50fps and see all the fields. 50i 50 separate images with resolution to be recorded using half. It is not a full divided image into two half-images. These 50 fields, you can all watch the units in AE with 50fps.

Right.
Quote:
There are so synonymous deinterlacing plugins, and these are used in a 50fps sequence. Not in a 25fps sequence.

Not true. So, of course, synonymous deinterlacer work in a 25fps composition.
But back to the main topic: you've tried your workflow views with a raw file of your project?



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Only a short time to tip when we speak of 50 fields, we talk of 25i.

The most important data:

25p = 25 frames / frames
50p = 50 frames / frames
25i = 50 fields / Fields (equivalent to 25 frames / frames)
30i = 60 fields / Fields (equivalent to 30 frames / frames) is of NTSC



50i is available in the sense of not really, but is always falsely labeled Sun

With HD we therefore speak of as synonymous 1080i25.

Now that the confusion likely to complete the question is: What do you want to spend? I'm assuming that you want to spend 50 fields and that would be 25i. There's not really the setting?

Greetings!



Antwort von dienstag_01:

I have the time with me briefly tested.
Avid DNxHD 1080i50 from. AAE recognizes the field dominance is not, I have to choose manual.
But then it works in a 50fps synonymous composition (what ever you need the synonymous).



Antwort von Anne Nerven:

I would simply export included the fields below to interlace the workflow to avoid breaking. Ultimately, in AE the clip in PAL format and later converted to burn to DVD. I export in progressive, these typical staccato movements occur on my control tube and result in a choppy image. Therefore, I was indeed in the first place to the idea to check times, where this "P" behavior is. And I speak not of field failures.

Actually it is not my first video is what I make in this form, I wonder why I suddenly noHalbbilder more. And since with "dienstag01" also works, I'm more irritated and say it but at the same time.

Even if I spend uncompressed, I get full frames. I'm stumped. Get tomorrow with another Project retest. Tips and Tuesday with the raw file synonymous. If I come on it can be synonymous of itself. 'm Probably already nailed.

Thank you so far.

Also very important: Schalke win the Champions League!



Antwort von dienstag_01:

This could suggest that the material is present in the Avid does not really interlaced.



Antwort von Anne Nerven:

@ Blackeagle123:
There is no setting with 25i it in any QT codec for Avid. Only in SD you have the ability to create a 25i Project.

What makes me mad is that I've worked several times as if I of HDV converted to PAL: Export QT with 50i. In AE create 50fps HD-component, QT import, use and deinterlacer. Then zoom out to PAL 25fps and with Re-interlacer in - finished. (Short version)

I have read at some point and was very satisfied with the outcome. Up to the present DVD.

I tried it again with a grade raw clip: progressive. I uncompressed. exported: progressive. Have another project open and tried a QT Export Settings: progressive. I cry the same ...




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