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Nv-gs 230 16:9 Technikfrage

Nv-gs 230 16:9 question technique



Frage von DanielAusDresden:
Februar 2008

Hello,
I've got since july 2007 Nv-gs 230th Already the sales told me that she has no real 16:9 (Recommendation 320). However, not enough money, and ceiling is now ceiling.

Now I still have with the 16:9 rumgespielt and a bit of testing.
One reads so often wrong of 16:9 at the bar only to come. That I thought, synonymous to meet the 16:9 of the GS 230 to Nv. But that is not quite true:

16:9 If I turn I see in general in any case more in height, it takes however. How does the camera? how can it suddenly in the general to see more?
What is s.ende with the resolution on?

Would be glad if I can help someone.

Daniel



Antwort von C.I.W:

So I do not know who told you this, but all the Panasonic models of the 230 to 500 have a true 16:9 mode. So no faded bars, etc.



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

The enlargement of the picture angle is almost 100% sure sign that they are "true" 16:9 can. What the manual says?
BG, Andreas








Antwort von DanielAusDresden:

the manual says something because of (depreciated from the manual):
- These functions are not receptive to the area

However, under the combined point: widescreen cinema and functional

in the cinema are really only functional balken added (already tested)

but synonymous with the test inet or so, I've already read several times "not true 16:9"



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"DanielAusDresden" wrote:

in the cinema are really only functional balken added

Posting in the input do you have written, the picture expands to the width ... what now, either, or neither?
BG, Andreas



Antwort von Markus73:

"Andreas_Kiel" wrote:
Posting in the input do you have written, the picture expands to the width ... what now, either, or neither?


The "movie feature adds bar added. The 16:9-function "on the other hand, makes" real "anamorphic 16:9. The GS 230 is definitely both.

@ Daniel:
Did you at Media Markt Saturn or purchased? The competence of the seller where I was sometimes brought evil into doubt ;-)

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von DanielAusDresden:

have it in a video / photo upload purchased. However, the retailer synonymous only s.das held what he has read times (which knew only the 320 and I have ordered the 230)

How is it that I top out, then do less?
therefore the resolution would have to yes in the general increase in the height and from.

I will test times 2 videos on my page load, then I can look at it real

but thank you in advance for the contributions



Antwort von Markus73:

Hello,

with the height of the picture: No idea.

The increase in width is caused by horizontal lines of pixels. Ie Resolutionist with 4:3 and 16:9 the same, only the aspect ratio of the (non-square) pixel is a different matter.

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von DanielAus Dresden:

So this time the promised test video.
Links 16:9 and 4:3 right. It may be that it must first load, so that both plays. Also, I left NEN small clip repeated several times that we should not now interfere.

File: 640x480 flv Unedited





Antwort von Jan:

Since I am reassured that this time the shops have built dung.

Well as I try it sometimes as Saturni:

In the models of Panasonic MiniDV Year 2007 GS so 60,80,230,320 and GS 500 (if you are still allowed to count) have up to GS 60 all the anamorphic 16:9 mode. GS has the cheap letterbox mode, so anything and black bar over it. The Others have a wide 16:9 at a resolution Angleund profit. True 16:9 but usually only cameras with a sensor with 16:9 is not of the latter (4:3) - but you can define how you want.

GS 230 has since unfortunately a small shortcoming, it is 16:9 in the stabilizer off, so that more space on the CCDs can be generated for an anamorphic 16:9. Can you quickly see when s.ist and stability to 16:9 du s.gehst, the camera instantly changes the bar imported from. Then you have a tripod or some zooming.

Black bars? Yes, the GS 230 has a 4:3 monitor, so the left and right black bars. Most cameras with a 16:9 anamorphic feature usually have a 16:9 LCD, Pana here has probably saved.

VG
Jan



Antwort von DanielAusDresden:

Danke schon mal for the tips.

eventually, but both have videos played on 4 / 3 and 16 / 9, the same resolution.

On the test videos you can see that just below the 4:3 and above is more to see than in 16:9 (note the circles).

But it looks like it is still true to 16:9 which is of course now I am slightly surprised. But I do themselves no loss of quality in 16:9 could recognize, I have a few cassettes so recorded.

Thanks again



Antwort von Jan:

Ok, but if you consider the screen 4:3 and then switch to 16:9 then you will have the right and left more drauf (Wide Angle is better) in the 230th GS Why Pana a 4:3 screen is now really used Quark - the black bars s.den pages nerves already.

Yes the Resolutiondürfte still remain at 720x576.

Letterboxkameras have 16:9 conversion because the same section as in 4:3 - simple black bar and anything over it.

True 16:9's really only in high definition (JVC GR PD 1 - Mixed camera - except for times) because this camcorder a 16:9 sensor and not have a 4:3 like the 230th GS

VG
Jan








Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

Use times the VLC player for a bit of 4:3 and a piece of 16:9. From both you can in VLC Player make a screenshot. Of 4:3 should be 720x576 in size, in 16:9 then 1.024x576. S.PC That's okay, because there are no rectangular pixels.



Antwort von DanielAusDresden:

because when I look at the data to the PC first everything (no preference whether 4:3 or 16:9) at vlc appears as 4:3. Ichs Can it not do so as I said. However, if I do 16:9 aspect ratio and nenscreeny. then it is truly 1024th

The annoying me about adobe premiere pro 2.0 synonymous great that there when saving an image to 4:3 format output is synonymous wenns 16:9. Therefore, I must always scaled to 1024.

But I thank you again! You've helped me a lot and so it looks like I really 16:9 (4:3 chip variant).

Why my picture above and below at least gives me something is missing, however, still unclear.



Antwort von Jan:

Well, Panasonic is using the technology for 16 / 9 synonymous with some digicams.

The sensor is fully sampled (it is synonymous of stability, because it usually space - at least one digital), may be had for a 16:9 format below and above which are taken away to the perfect relationship should be preserved. But probably the only white Panasonic.

VG s.meine hometown Dresden

Jan



Antwort von Meggs:

"Jan" wrote:

Letterboxkameras have 16:9 conversion because the same section as in 4:3 - simple black bar and anything over it.

True 16:9's really only in high definition (JVC GR PD 1 - Mixed camera - except for times) because this camcorder a 16:9 sensor and not have a 4:3 like the 230th GS


The format of the sensor has nothing to do. When the chip in pixels Width enough for 16 / 9 has in the Height and not all are used, what should it be fake?
By the same logic, one could then synonymous say HDV camcorder can be no real 4:3.



Antwort von Jan:

Well, is interpretation.

For the mass is only a true 16:9 with a 16:9 sensor.
Panasonic switches so when they feature the 16:9 stability, so takes more space for 16:9 - this can be synonymous but not the best solution.

4:3 to 16:9 sensor in Comparison with 4:3 and 4:3 sensor issue - I would see otherwise, because there is always a political group must trick.

Not every company uses more space, such as Panasonic's 16:9 function than 4:3. Many use the same area and just stretch.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Meggs:

"Jan" wrote:

4:3 to 16:9 sensor in Comparison with 4:3 and 4:3 sensor issue - I would see otherwise, because there is always a political group must trick.


Sure, a 16:9 sensor is used in 4:3 is not fully utilized and vice versa.
The difference between real and 16:9 letterbox lies principally in the issue. For letterbox comes back a 4, 3 with Picture-up bar to get at is a genuine 16:9 anamorphic full-out without beam.



















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