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Weshalb ein Mac Pro vs iMac als Schnittrechner Sinn machen kann

Why a Mac Pro vs. iMac may make sense as cutting machine



Newsmeldung von slashCAM:
November 2009

Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Why a Mac Pro vs. iMac may make sense as cutting machine




Antwort von Axel:

There have been a few years ago, people cut everything on iMacs and desktop calculator right here obsolete. For the vast majority applies here - and since the new generation of iMacs, even more so - that an iMac is sufficient "(synonymous applies to MBP, it's also become more affordable).

For people who earn their money only with editing, is the price difference between an iMac and MacPro one no longer so relevant, and outweigh the benefits of MP.



Antwort von Zizi:

Do not forget .. After his performance every year, Intel has almost doubled and tripled accordingly pull video formats you have cut out quickly when iMac ""!
The MacPro is at least the screen, or certain hardware Nocht which we can continue to receive years later .. boarded the iMac models go now so pretty on her knees wenns H264 is about to do how long will take until the synonymous expensive?
So who will then cut hardcore hardcore synonymous Calculator ..
iMacs beautiful toys for amateur filmmakers are no longer in my opinion.





Antwort von ddiethelm:

If someone only needs a processor, an internal RAID wants, no high end graphics card will or moderately RAM needs ... this only for iLife and other cutting-spielereien needs, if you please take one iMac.

However, once the use of Adobe products get good night. As the head beats fast on the keyboard and hear a little snore.



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote:
If someone only needs a processor, an internal RAID wants, no high end graphics card will or moderately RAM needs ... this only for iLife and other cutting-spielereien needs, if you please take one iMac.

exactly .. only what has been one of i7 if the rest can not compete?
Every Mac is still the hard drive sometimes synonymous the RAM bottleneck .. If the plate can not write faster and the RAM synonymous little tact brings the best CPU is useless!
There is also the http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Apple-Nehalem-Unterstuetzung-fuer-Mac-Pro-and-Xserve-weiterhin-mangelhaft-755713.html


Quote:
However, once the use of Adobe products get good night. As the head beats fast on the keyboard and hear a little snore.

Yes then equal to a PC!



Antwort von Flyingdutchman:

Please note: there's an exciting opportunity, which he 27-especially the iMac with Core i7 CPU to recommend a cheaper alternative to the MacPro: you can open the casing (expand display), the "SuperDrive" unscrew (as an external Bluray - drive anyway and announced more "super" is) and s.der couple an eSata port sata extension cable.
Obviously it is not completely without risk and cost: we must learn well, get the right tools, etc.
But you can then easily establish eSata RAID-5 Station with integrated Raidfcontroller ranhängen, and thus cut uncompressed HD. 16GB ram, prima GraKa, great display, great performance - of course there will be little, if special video cards à la Decklink need FW800 variants, such as Aja IO're quite expensive ...
But cut the rent, yes, most purely digital and so'n part to a maximum of times now &.
If you saved the money it would make sense to invest again, buy one ne fast SSD and replacing the internal HDD like - ready for Mac is the ultimate 3D, digital video, compositing. Motion Graphics ....

Can we find here synonymous en detail:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=8829884&posted=1 # post8829884

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac-Intel-27-Inch/1236/1

And here is a test of the various relevant CPUs - the i7 performs almost as good as the Xenon with 4 x 2.93 GHz ...
http://www.barefeats.com/imi7.html

Greeting, FD



Antwort von ddiethelm:

The warranty evaporates very quickly but in such a rumgebastle ...



Antwort von MacPro:

"ddiethelm" wrote:
The warranty evaporates very quickly but in such a rumgebastle ...


Well, how good that Apple is only 1 years before ...



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote:
The warranty evaporates very quickly but in such a rumgebastle ...

in their warranties and waits do I see from Apple anyway NO problems! Had to wait for my Macbook because of a defective display of 20 December 2008 to 24 February 2009! This indeed represents a good percentage of those ridiculous 12 months guarantee, and not even bekahm a replacement unit! The best komt But still, the fact still wanted 180 ¬ for 2GB Ram!
Since I am just after buying the original 512er Rams rausnahm and replace it with 2x1GB of Corsair I have it reversed! Of course, I refused to pay for even a week ago and was charged wartezeit my old / new book back again.
When I am at Saturn with some Acer Schrottbook for ¬ 299.99 for 2 months because of dropouts and display fragile plastic parts then go away, I immediately get a new one .. In the 5x so teuerem Macbook of course not!
One of the reasons why I now no longer synonymous Mac with PC hardware when buying the new aluminum micht things irritating back then were as synonymous with the beautiful white plastic .. for me are only the inner values!



Antwort von PowerMac:

Intrinsic values will be protected by external values.



Antwort von Flyingdutchman:

Reading always - and I personally find rubbish, with the guarantee of the allegedly overpriced Apple. I am very happy with the support plan - just a good feeling and incredibly time-saving, if at all that does not get it, you can call and get help right away s.System will - if necessary 3 hours s.Stück of a technician determines the Apple ¬ 80 / hour costs, or something like that ...
I know my m. N. n. the way very well with systems from Apple, so it is not synonymous is that I guess ;-) Phone Support

Besides, if that makes sense with the installation, it leaves no trace, in case of warranty you have it zurückbauen course, but good. Will not occur so often before, and for me the phone support is ere almost more important.

Apart from that have been synonymous with my Macbook pro exchanged views (after more than 1 years), the motherboard - I know, of course not, but suspect that it would have been synonymous even more expensive than the price of the support plan. Was definitely worth it for me in any case ...



Antwort von KlausZ:

So, so, Zizi ... So you've arrived back here in the discussion is clear. Real's but is still not here:
I cut for 2 years on my iMac with AppleScript. And the only extension that I had needed was to replace a hard drive with 2TB disk. Prozessormässig which still works very well, I am sure that the current models because the right things liven up. But despite elaborate synonymous Projects (4 cameras, play with 3h, separate audio tracks ..) I have come not s.The limits. The iMac is suitable as a cut so wonderful machine.

"Zizi" wrote:
iMacs beautiful toys for amateur filmmakers are no longer in my opinion.

That your skills in terms of cutting machine is very full of holes, one can read so synonymous in many other threads.
With the proceeds of my last job I had grad can buy a new iMac - and then you come and posts such nonsense.
Whether you can cut synonymous with the PC, was not asked in this thread ... wants to know synonymous None.



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote:
So, so, Zizi ... So you've arrived back here in the discussion is clear. Real's but is still not here:
I cut for 2 years on my iMac with AppleScript. And the only extension that I had needed was to replace a hard drive with 2TB disk. Prozessormässig which still works very well, I am sure that the current models because the right things liven up. But despite elaborate synonymous Projects (4 cameras, play with 3h, separate audio tracks ..) I have come not s.The limits. The iMac is suitable as a cut so wonderful machine.

Zizi wrote the following:
iMacs beautiful toys for amateur filmmakers are no longer in my opinion.

That your skills in terms of cutting machine is very full of holes, one can read so synonymous in many other threads.
With the proceeds of my last job I had grad can buy a new iMac - and then you come and posts such nonsense.
Whether you can cut synonymous with the PC, was not asked in this thread ... wants to know synonymous None.


Fine .. The Pipi your HD videos to run a super mood, I believe you .. can a ¬ 500 Acer Schroottbook synonymous with the same CPU!
The question is whether 3 lanes of a liquid 7D + effects on it without running the Final Cut Pro rendering must constantly .. This is precisely the basic reasons why I rise Final Cut Pro immensely s.den my head that I only buy high-end PCs to a divorce because my new cameras have the codecs can not be s.iMac liquid process without the loss of losing out to - New Purchase -> ENTSOG is necessary!
Did yesterday s.iMac (2x2.8 GHz) as a panoramic picture created in Photoshop and depth abgemidert .. rattled you know how long the disk in the iMac has it? ~ 15min!
Without exception, absturz ;-)
an equally expensive PC nity sowas appreciative I am in 3 times!
What do you think the cut looks like?



Antwort von Axel:

"Zizi" wrote:
The question is whether 3 lanes of a liquid 7D + effects on it without running the Final Cut Pro rendering must constantly .. This is precisely the basic reasons why I rise Final Cut Pro immensely s.den head ...


Did it perhaps rumgesprochen to you that H.264 is an output format (amateur pee to stay in your parlance), which is cut s.intelligentesten in a good intermediate - and then the lame computers "liquid"? Is the topic since at least three years. The alternative is offline cut or native cut. Nothing against these alternatives, but each time you just show how little plan you have.



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote:
The alternative is offline cut or native cut. Nothing against these alternatives, but each time you just show how little plan you have.

Wow there are cut off!?
How cool .. You think I do not know in advance?
Umgwandelt And how long does it take for your iMac, the raw material into an editing format is suitable Pipi?
Yes, I know .. Macys since its sooo smart it turns your iMac s.and never let your Programs Open hours and always does its rendering overnight .. great idea to compensate for the weak performance of a computer!
I prefer to pull the zeugs purely and immediately cut it .. Go straight wenns fast does!
DAN Everything else could just as well made on a netbook for ¬ 159, - to ..



Antwort von Axel:

Speed? Must? At 7d Footage?
What program you have three tracks (I once presupposes PiP, otherwise if it were indeed only one) Full-HD H.264 natively? Ross and rider, man!

Okay, I synonymous: How long does it take to walk in ProRes? In my case about 0.5 x real-time. It is a background process. I can sight while other clips. It's true, I have a small delay at the beginning. "If it's time to go again soon be" - with the red-hot 7d reportage about! - I am annoyed.

With ProRes I depended on you, if not only hard cuts have to be made. Qualitatively anyway, because a real "smart rendering" there is no longer with H.264: Hard Cutting = Complete recompression.



Antwort von KlausZ:

"Zizi" wrote:

Fine .. The Pipi your HD videos to run a super mood, I believe you .. can a ¬ 500 Acer Schroottbook synonymous with the same CPU!
The question is whether 3 lanes of a liquid 7D + effects on it without running the Final Cut Pro rendering must constantly .. This is precisely the basic reasons why I rise Final Cut Pro immensely s.den my head that I only buy high-end PCs to a divorce because my new cameras have the codecs can not be s.iMac liquid process without the loss of losing out to - New Purchase -> ENTSOG is necessary!
Did yesterday s.iMac (2x2.8 GHz) as a panoramic picture created in Photoshop and depth abgemidert .. rattled you know how long the disk in the iMac has it? ~ 15min!
Without exception, absturz ;-)
an equally expensive PC nity sowas appreciative I am in 3 times!
What do you think the cut looks like?


Pimmelchen-Zizi (http://de.bab.la/woerterbuch/franzoesisch-deutsch/zizi.html):
7D, and I do not need them in the future, not synonymous, so you want to dictate to me what system I need to meet your requirements too?? How stupid and blind you are actually zero-checker? Man oh man ..



Antwort von PowerMac:

Zizi, I challenge you. Wettrendern! For example, MPEG-2 encoding for DVD. Or durchrendern a timeline. Make sure you challenge yourself with your PC and Premiere?



Antwort von Meggs:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Zizi, I challenge you.


I suggest that the loser will swear his vile s.and platform moves to the other camp. Should it be necessary, he changes his nickname synonymous (synonymous PowerPC That sounds not bad - or MacZizi's).



Antwort von B.DeKid:

OT:

@ Zizi

What a panoramic picture? Consisting of how many pictures? From which camera? Which Lens? What kind of object / Laandschaft? Which color space? RAW or Jpeg? What is the resolution? Which bit resolution? How many levels? PerHand gestichted or automated? How much RAM? What output quality or size? ..... And reduce sharpness why?

Because there are definitely some tricks as you can deal with large panoramic images - if one looked at some things will not respects synonymous can take a while for my servers - are 15 minutes so time is not really so rare - if they are synonymous, the more erstmal sounds.

MfG
B. DeKid

/ OT:



Antwort von RickyMartini:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Zizi, I challenge you. Wettrendern! For example, MPEG-2 encoding for DVD. Or durchrendern a timeline. Make sure you challenge yourself with your PC and Premiere?

This represents virtually benchmarking. To test the performance of the OS would have on the Mac and the PC using the same hardware as possible and have PPro has the same version on both systems are used.
Otherwise, this is very pointless! ^ ^

You could s.Flipper or test your skills synonymous s.einem Multiplayer Online Game! : D



Antwort von meawk:

Who is the real on these "promotional" cheese "comes in - na??



Antwort von meawk:

"Zizi" wrote:
Quote:
The alternative is offline cut or native cut. Nothing against these alternatives, but each time you just show how little plan you have.

Wow there are cut off!?
How cool .. You think I do not know in advance?
Umgwandelt And how long does it take for your iMac, the raw material into an editing format is suitable Pipi?
Yes, I know .. Macys since its sooo smart it turns your iMac s.and never let your Programs Open hours and always does its rendering overnight .. great idea to compensate for the weak performance of a computer!
I prefer to pull the zeugs purely and immediately cut it .. Go straight wenns fast does!
DAN Everything else could just as well made on a netbook for ¬ 159, - to ..


Thanks Zizi - there's more to be said. Except - well, they are MAC fanboy's stop a little, "APP".



Antwort von Axel:

This thread is about an article that compares the average PC and Mac computer users do not even ask for their opinion. I consider myself to Premiere on PC thread back, although I have more idea than their opposite of Macs. Public forum, therefore we can only ask politely forgiven himself, Meawk in the corner with the other Flatliners, Zizi, Piller males, Vaio and a little more distinguished and sympathizers Meggs RickyMartini.



Antwort von meawk:

Axel - Brown quietly. . .
And you have not invented the wheel and one teacher we need not.



Antwort von KlausZ:

Unlike you scarecrows are comments of PowerMac, Axel and Co at least sound and comprehensible. The Rumgestänkere of PC fanboys of course devoid of any foundation and always proves again anew, you will want a say where, where you have NO idea. Very pathetic. And as the thread suggests, here it comes to Mac computers as cut (which does not even have to prove that this is an excellent domain of this computer). Earn your erstmal's your laurels, then we will see next. There are other threads where you are better off safe with your little knowledge.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

.... un what has that to do so now to see if nen nen iMac or Mac Pro render to "Panoramic longer"?

Although I have my theories, but if we do not Zizi nen some data preislegt all irrelevant!

So long ....

MfG
B. DeKid

But all destotrotz I vote for him only once, and tell the Apple product from erstmal nen view of the hardware and the tremendous opportunities against any PC Product abstinkt ;-)

This're both only just sold PC hardware including marketing ... you see - is that what you get ;-)

For one, I can sollchen Pauschilierung disenchanted ....... improved performance by 500% with PC Win facing a performance-based Macs as Zizi, described him - I stand very, very skeptical. So: first facts on the table and you will see next.

+
If you just "cut" will come s.Final Cut Pro is not over - because if this happens to anyone intressierts nem nem iMac or Mac Pro!



Antwort von meawk:

"Klausz" wrote:
Unlike you scarecrows. . .


Ohhhh - a MAC fanboy offended that the APP "when approaching the white jacket back not found" has. Did we wake you up around?
Now just a good boy - otherwise the doctor comes. . .
Always these insults, but, but. . . ;)

Zizi's Comparison is correct - the iMac is just lame crates that goes with a "normal" PC-ratz fatz And since you can so you still get excited - Fanboy's



Antwort von jogol:

The "Mac vs. Pc" thread metastasizes. ... Cancer Forum




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