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Wieso eigentlich 35mm?

Why actually 35mm?



Frage von Lineal:
Juni 2008

S.alle morning;)

Times wanted to ask why we so often talk of 35mm-Objektiven/Adaptern ... And not of other sizes? Because the people synonymous with the film, or because it's the eye of the s.nahesten blur, or because it simply has so established?

I'm grad to me a power to tinker with yourself, because at home I have an old 35mm lens lying hab. But at the same time synonymous, I have a bigger place of my father, which he previously recorded for insects used. The thing is correspondingly huge ...

I would be really interested to know what a Picture rauskommt if I'm the front of the terminal screen;)

But in line erstet why exactly 35mm?

Thank you:)



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude

Do the question seriously?

So from 35 mm to 35 mm negative film material KB.

Lenses are not that mean but the film is exposed to.

Sure Is it synonymous nor other formats such as medium format .....

The best times are you looking statements relating to lighting equipment on wiki, seems to me that you first because you should capture.

What the Lens of thy father, it is probably a Macro Lens.

THE PARTICULARS OF LENSES (ie 24 mm or 80mm or 300mm relate to the focal. The small numbers such as 3.5 5.6 8, etc on the Aperture = Sensitivity = the smaller the number is so blinding Lichtstaerer is the Lens .. .. and then there have information about the diameter of a lens, say 46 mm and 72mm so 52mmm next)

I think the best is if you look at yourself on wiki Lenses and film format as 8 mm / 16 mm / 35 mm etc einliesst.

ele impression that comes to Nahstellgrenze to.

Why 35 mm adapters are used ..... To Obtiken with better depth function to use .... the "film look" to change oneself to the normal of very sharp video look subscribed to remove ... etc.

But really Lesse times in the wiki and fresh as after a bit on the customer and lighting Lens material are the essential facts necessary to "Filmerei" needs to know.

Alla
MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Lineal:

Thanks for the answer first. Hm .. Yes, I'm not the pike in the matter (for now, hopefully, werd me something more purely read);) Somehow I lern s.besten when doing
Ahh, I slowly understand ... I think.

But what I really wanted to know is why all the adapter (or all I've seen until now) 35mm focal (ie Lenses) have? Basically, however, there is absolutely synonymous other focal bunutzen, right?

For the rest, I clearly need a little help;) true.

Mfg








Antwort von PowerMac:

You confuse the recording format "35mm", which is the diagonal of chemical film and indicates the Focal '35mm. Both have absolutely nothing to do with each other.



Antwort von Lineal:

"PowerMac" wrote:
You confuse the recording format "35mm", which is the diagonal of chemical film and indicates the Focal '35mm. Both have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


Exactly, I just realized. I am not the "diagonal of chemical film," but exactly the Focal.
If what I've written previously forgotten times ... then the adapter but still with all lenses with 35mm focal equipped ... Focal why is this?

Or habs but I still do not quite understand;)



Antwort von PowerMac:

35mm adapters have NOTHING with the focal to be done. Do you understand it at last? NOTHING. They simply allow the use of lenses for 35mm film are built. It can be 8, 15 or 300mm Focal his.



Antwort von raymaker:

35mm is probably the normal field of view of man. So often as a standard - and made all-purpose lens. Everything that would be too much in the telecommunications, including everything to widescreen.



Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

"PowerMac" wrote:
35mm adapters have NOTHING with the focal to be done. Do you understand it at last? NOTHING. They simply allow the use of lenses for 35mm film are built. It can be 8, 15 or 300mm Focal his.

What PowerMac here writes forcefully true!
But slowly, I suspect, why it is in this exchange so painful misunderstandings are: 35mm-F ilm, which is for F otografen an unusual term. The know their negatives and slides as 24x36 mm picture. Where should because the 35 mm?
Negative strips: 24mm high, each Picture. Then the holes above and below. Leg drüber the ruler and measure the full, complete film strips in the Width: aha, 35 mm film, each miniature wide.
And exactly this footage (at least of the formatting-wise), hunting in Hollywood by film cameras. This means that every lens reflex s.Deiner old behaves with his depth, just as the film camera Lenses, ie the depth is much smaller, like the small compact digital cameras and synonymous in the consumer video cameras. But this is a cinematic statement on the right, the audience is just the story for the important area to see sharp, behind and before blurred.
And precisely because of this concentration on Major's wish all the ambitious amateur 35mm film adapter, so that they with their old SLR lenses to be Hollywoodfilmern. Well, at least of the depth of her ...
War's exactly this misunderstanding? Perhaps many of synonymous? Then the night would have been worth hearing ...



Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

"raymaker" wrote:
35mm is probably the normal field of view of man. So often as a standard - and made all-purpose lens. Everything that would be too much in the telecommunications, including everything to widescreen.

I'm sorry, synonymous but not quite true. 50mm Lenses apply when (35mm!)-Small-film since ancient times as a normal focal length, because it supposedly corresponds to the human perspective. 35mm Lenses are already as wide, ie, next as the human eye.
Thus, we have always preached and in countless books. Very strictly speaking, but is synonymous so wrong. A corded tracks just view of man can be - with both eyes simultaneously perceptive - almost a 180-degree angle recognize. That would correspond to a focal of 16 mm film for KB, or Vollformatsensor.
Recognition does not look sharp.
In order to survive in the jungle is the visual sensory perception in humans so that it is in the middle, in a very narrow angle of 10 degrees around its prey can see very sharp, so in accordance with the 200mm lens. Outside the 10 level is significantly blurred and less pixels s.Augenhintergrund, but the outer area of the visual field, the eye (and brain) instead fast movements very well register. This helps the people to survive when he himself becomes prey to be, that is, a leopard on it zuspringt.
That is why the concept of normal lens = 50 mm, strictly speaking, be misleading, but a psychological perception that this has associated angle of 53 degrees as a "normal" established.
That has now just have to be synonymous ...



Antwort von Axel:

"Dr. Walter Gesierich" wrote:
And exactly this footage (at least of the formatting-wise), hunting in Hollywood by film cameras. This means that every lens reflex s.Deiner old behaves with his depth, just as the film camera Lenses ...

Compared to 35mm movie doubles the blur at 35mm miniature. Cameras move horizontally through the film, film cameras vertically, that is Halbformat.
zum Bild zum Bild
(Links: slide, 8-holes Perfo horizontal, right: cinema, 4 holes vertical)

35mm was the way, of TA Edison, the inventor of the lightbulb, patented. Whether he actually invented itself, can no longer say with certainty. Also not surprisingly, whether to shoot or shooting was intended, in any case, it was the beginning of s.für both. And, with today's terms, the professional photographers who are exposed to enormous plates, the Consumer format despised.
"Dr. Walter Gesierich" wrote:
50mm Lenses apply when (35mm!)-Small-film since ancient times as a normal focal length, because it supposedly corresponds to the human perspective. 35mm Lenses are already as wide, ie, next as the human eye.

This applies to a normal analog camera, the aspect ratio of 3:2 (36 x 24) is. Films whose screen is 4:3 with a DV Cam, would be 11% percent of the image above and below cut, so you must zoom in and who is now 11% left and right lose. With a 16:9 lose 15.6%. All this only arithmetically, in the ideal case. In fact, you can still zoom in next to no sticker guaranteed to have (brightness waste s.den edges). The adapter-director Philip Bloom feels so than even a normal 28mm lens (widescreen formats from natural weitwinkliger see), here, and here extremely small sharpness box here shown for demonstration purposes, is probably not everyone's taste.



Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

@ Alex
Well that was almost a tutorial. Perfect, and in the middle of the night ...



Antwort von Kino:

Small addition:

The 35mm material was initially only planned for the film.

Approximately 10-15 years after its introduction in the developed Leitz / Wetzlar salaried engineer Oskar Barnack, a "test-camera", the single was on that film material exposed.

The purpose of the "Ur-Leica" was Setausleuchtung, building, ... photographically documented and alternatives to be compared to the settings when turning s.Folgetag (after development of the film and deductions) to be optimized.

The solitary use as a still camera was only later, when the photographer (who previously worked größerformatig) their reservations aside.

Of greetings Christoph
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