Hi, Dear Friends Video Yesterday I filmed a wedding is very important. After I came home, I've played in the tv- seen on all 4 mini DV tapes, the film jerks strong, all 2-3 seconds. I tried to play Casettes with other camcorder that does nothing. I do not know if you something like nent band salad The question is is a hope to repair the tapes. Thanks in advance
Antwort von nicecam:
Look synonymous views in these threads , where reports of a similar problem and I read the articles about synonymous.
So "Band Salad" you would not call it something like, because that word would apply to a rather crumpled tapes. I think it is rather a problem of the camcorder. Were there similar problems with this camcorder earlier on?
When arriving here in your thread any further answers, or you may attach synonymous s.den another thread.
If you have problematic tapes could perhaps synonymous of Mark, who used to be very active here in the forum once was, but has left this forum, advice and action to help out with, because the idea has much of the dubbing of tapes.
Er ist jetzt sehr aktiv im Video Forum . You could try, if you do not get an answer here, contact him there.
But stay tuned here only once. Here synonymous many experts are on the road.
Antwort von anton-1:
Hi John, Thank you for your answer, I have this Canon xl1 first of three days bought, not about ebayer special private, have no contractual synonymous, drotzdem I have to go to s.Dienstag my lawyer. According to TSE in Detmold camcorder technology may not be an error within 1-3 days kommen.was he could not tell me exactly synonymous, I send the camcorder in s.Dienstag workshop, just what I do with the tapes.
Whether these camcorders had this problem before I can say synonymous Nich, I know I've only yesterday with the camcorder filmed, And today on my tv geschaut.doch the twitch very strongly. times times times left right center but as a band I can not give nimanten. I just hope I can find a technician or with your hilffe. Sorry for the German spelling Many thanks Greeting Tony
Antwort von Alf_300:
If a private purchase was the only thing is perhaps dusty. or it was a different (greasy) Band places used Too bad that no previous test shots were made
Antwort von anton-1:
"Alf_300" wrote:
If a private sale was the only thing is perhaps dusty. or it was a different (; used greasy) Band Places Too bad that no previous test shots were made
Hi, Yes, as I said the camcorder was already on ebay, because I had with sellers already agreed to buy so The seller, but a cameraman Proffi, and had told me that the camcorder is 100%, from this base have I trusted.
I thank you
Antwort von nicecam:
Hi anton-1, edit the title again and write into it that it comes to the XL1. Maybe the example DeKid that; the fact is a specialist in this camera.
ebay, or "of private" is of course sometimes such a thing.
Extract from the other thread : When I SonyVX-1E is the problem itself probably s.Camcorders The error apparently irrevocably transferred to the tapes.
If in your XL1 the error no longer occurs and the playback quality of the tapes with the Panasonic is better, at least you might have been lucky.
"Anton-1" wrote:
So the jerks Picture not so much with Panasonic, what may be due
If tapes various camcorders vary good (sometimes not) be played on, it can s.unterschiedlichem, feigned or just a faulty strap lie.
However, the tapes should in such cases with the camcorder with which it was recorded, are synonymous play correctly.
With you it's the other way, so far as something unusual.
Reports next.
Antwort von anton-1:
Hi John, I know not wirglich was with the tapes is loos. Have tried again and again of XL1 times of Panasonic, but not s.end satisfied, I can not give the bands next. Have looked again last night an cassette with Panasonic, virtually no errors when I looked for the second time kammen the errors again, Thank you very much Greeting Tony
Antwort von nicecam:
You have the problems so only with the wedding tapes?
Can you ever upload still images here, or a small video sequence, for example, on YouTube? Then we could isolate the problem perhaps.
Give not up yet. You have adapted the title, yes. Maybe even sign up other people here. Finally there is the Mark with his web site.
Antwort von anton-1:
Hi John, Yes I do once I've finished I'll post here. I have looked all Casettes min, all Casettes s.end so s.denn 50'ste is hardly an error, Thank you very much
Antwort von nicecam:
One more thing: play the tape in question is not too often so it does not yet come to an aggravation.
Antwort von anton-1:
Hi, So I have the video quality on Youtube, not so good but man can see that. Have synonymous only just seen the one video in Pinnacle studio had a black bar an outline, the book now woheer komt,
Thank you very much Greeting Tony
Antwort von nicecam:
So, I've now looked at the time. Is this with the XL1 or the Panasonic played?
Well, right now I do not synonymous next. It must now first see one another here.
"Nicecam" wrote:
If tapes various camcorders vary good (sometimes not) be played on, it can s.unterschiedlichem, feigned or just a faulty strap lie.
"Disguised track position" it is true, I think, rather.
Antwort von srone:
hi tony,
above you wrote, you had the camera cleaned, I take s.mir a cleaning cartridge, I would repeat the cleaning process, and test as one of your wedding wiederzurückspulen cartridges once all before-and then try again.
lg
SRone
Antwort von Mink:
The tapes, however, were new or? Where the problem does not look like the typical artifacts occurring in the dubbed tapes.
Antwort von WoWu:
Hi Tony The error image does look like a typical head clogging. It may have been synonymous, but a layer of moisture. This keeps about the dirty heads are not durchmagnetisiert on the tape, whereby the data of the scars in the play are inconsistent. Recorder during playback try to compensate for these now erroneous data. This computing process is not done in real time. Therefore, the partial image offset. Now there are different recorders and recorders are there in the new by improved computing speeds quite an advantage. In addition, often the heads still new and the width of the head gap still thin enough to read data and the precision can Kopfumschlingung of the strip and the track position even better. This will be the best band data is read and a lower compensation (Error Correction) is required. The correction algorithms in newer cameras are often better. By doing this you should try to capture the material at first. Incidentally, behave quite differently Capturprogramme synonymous in terms of error corrections. (We once had an HDV tape, with the Final Cut Pro fully with dropouts was read, with a different capture program (HDVxDV) but was almost flawlessly scanned in). So you should first of all try to capture the material as possible. After cutting, I would see pictures or errors occur in which the final product and not try to manipulate these mistakes because they can not be overcome really. But that is another issue and then implies both a good NLE, as synonymous einwenig knowledge of the tools.
Antwort von anton-1:
"SRone" wrote:
hi tony,
above you wrote, you had the camera cleaned, I take s.mir a cleaning cartridge, I would repeat the cleaning process, and test as one of your wedding wiederzurückspulen cartridges once all before-and then try again.
lg
SRone
Hi, I did that and got in front and back 2-3 times, Sometimes this was fil if the camcorder and the tapes are warm it will get better, Thank you very much
Antwort von anton-1:
"Nicecam" wrote:
So, I've now looked at the time. Is this with the XL1 or the Panasonic played?
Well, right now I do not synonymous next. It must now first see one another here.
"Nicecam" wrote:
If tapes various camcorders vary good (sometimes not) be played on, it can s.unterschiedlichem, feigned or just a faulty strap lie.
"Disguised track position" it is true, I think, rather.
Hi, This is of the Panasonic, but I played synonymous with XL1 that is not better Thank you
Antwort von srone:
hi tony, Now if you have the feeling that it is better to hold you s.wowus proposal and capture the material for safety in your computer, you have at least a halfway suitable starting point if you then for the cut anything is missing, it can capture again with . try
if you have the feeling your schnittprg is struggling with the capture of the tapes, try it with hdv-split.
lg
SRone
Antwort von anton-1:
"WoWu" wrote:
Hi Tony The error image does look like a typical head clogging. It may have been synonymous, but a layer of moisture. This keeps about the dirty heads are not durchmagnetisiert on the tape, whereby the data of the scars in the play are inconsistent. Recorder during playback try to compensate for these now erroneous data. This computing process is not done in real time. Therefore, the partial image offset. Now there are different recorders and recorders are there in the new by improved computing speeds quite an advantage. In addition, often the heads still new and the width of the head gap still thin enough to read data and the precision can Kopfumschlingung of the strip and the track position even better. This will be the best band data is read and a lower compensation (Error Correction) is required. The correction algorithms in newer cameras are often better. By doing this you should try to capture the material at first. Incidentally, behave quite differently Capturprogramme synonymous in terms of error corrections. (We once had an HDV tape, with the Final Cut Pro fully with dropouts was read, with a different capture program (HDVxDV) but was almost flawlessly scanned in). So you should first of all try to capture the material as possible. After cutting, I would see pictures or errors occur in which the final product and not try to manipulate these mistakes because they can not be overcome really. But that is another issue and then implies both a good NLE, as synonymous einwenig knowledge of the tools.
Hi, Do you think if I find another camcorder to play, improves or not, What happens if I try to play for several several times, may get worse. Thank you very much
Antwort von anton-1:
"SRone" wrote:
hi tony, Now if you have the feeling that it is better to hold you s.wowus proposal and capture the material for safety in your computer, you have at least a halfway suitable starting point if you then for the cut anything is missing, it can capture again with . try
if you have the feeling your schnittprg is struggling with the capture of the tapes, try it with hdv-split.
lg
SRone
Hi, Can you ask me once to say what is HDV-split. Thank you
Antwort von anton-1:
"SRone" wrote:
hi tony,
above you wrote, you had the camera cleaned, I take s.mir a cleaning cartridge, I would repeat the cleaning process, and test as one of your wedding wiederzurückspulen cartridges once all before-and then try again.
lg
SRone
Hi, I have cleaned four times, man had to read manual may not clean more than 5 times. Thank you very much
Antwort von anton-1:
"Mink" wrote:
The tapes, however, were new or? Where the problem does not look like the typical artifacts occurring in the dubbed tapes.
Hi, The tapes I had bought a new brand of Panasonic. Thank you very much
Antwort von WoWu:
Tony ..
Quote:
Do you think if I find another camcorder to play back, improves or not, What happens if I try to play for several several times, may get worse. Thank you very much
If you are playing several times and the error is posts s.andern, you can edit the material and of course, well in your final production should then no error may be visible. Now you have indeed not usually "a lot" cameras for capturing ... but with a possible new camera you generally get the best results. (As above explained). You might just try several times. It has virtually no influence on the tapes. But it is important to determine whether the errors occur in the same images always!
Antwort von anton-1:
"WoWu" wrote:
Tony ..
Quote:
Do you think if I find another camcorder to play back, improves or not, What happens if I try to play for several several times, may get worse. Thank you very much
If you are playing several times and the error is posts s.andern, you can edit the material and of course, well in your final production should then no error may be visible. Now you have indeed not usually "a lot" cameras for capturing ... but with a possible new camera you generally get the best results. (As above explained). You might just try several times. It has virtually no influence on the tapes. But it is important to determine whether the errors occur in the same images always!
Hi, No, the errors are not always ask the same. I just tried again, such as Where did XL1 for errors. Panasonic had where else, in places not in the same. I hope the tapes are not broken. 'Thank you
Antwort von WoWu:
But that's perfect, then do two capture and exchange in the final product from the broken bodies ....
Antwort von anton-1:
"WoWu" wrote:
But that's perfect, then do two capture and exchange in the final product from the broken bodies ....
Hi, Yes, the were synonymous ne idea, the problem is the errors are every 2-3 sec twitches very strong, light and so are as good as ever, with both cameras. Thank you very much
Antwort von WoWu:
At the moment it sounds to me as if the heads of both cameras quite "down" are. Anders can not explain the different dropouts, or that your capture program do not get a clean signal over the FireWire connection .... Check synonymous times the connection (cable). But that leaves hope for your tapes .... What a capture program do you use it?
Antwort von anton-1:
"WoWu" wrote:
At the moment it sounds to me as if the heads of both cameras quite "down" are. Anders can not explain the different dropouts, or that your capture program do not get a clean signal over the FireWire connection .... Check synonymous times the connection (cable). But that leaves hope for your tapes .... What a capture program do you use it?
Hi, I try the synonymous in television, the problem is synonymous so I tried with Pinnacle studio, but as a cut program I'm using Avid Liquid. I have tried so synonymous, synonymous problems, both cameras I have are very alt.ich only know of Panasonic which I bought at that time in 2003 neu.and the XL1 I had bought last week, which sees synonymous as old outside, can it be the video heads are not ok. Tomorrow I'll get a camera with a friend who has an HDV, so I have to play because my problem is not HDV tapes, or playing the synonymous these tapes.
Thank DnaK
Antwort von nicecam:
The HDV camera can play back your DV material synonymous. Conversely, it would not go.
Antwort von anton-1:
Dear friends video. The errors of tapes has been resolved thanks to you, a friend of me has brought me a sony DCR HC17, and there is no error seen in either PC or s.Fernseh.
I would like to thank all of you. Although I can not even write good German, I find it very fair of you. You have helped me very very much,
Many thanks Tony
Antwort von anton-1:
"WoWu" wrote:
At the moment it sounds to me as if the heads of both cameras quite "down" are. Anders can not explain the different dropouts, or that your capture program do not get a clean signal over the FireWire connection .... Check synonymous times the connection (cable). But that leaves hope for your tapes .... What a capture program do you use it?
Hi, Man you've been right Thank you very much
Antwort von anton-1:
"Nicecam" wrote:
So, I've now looked at the time. Is this with the XL1 or the Panasonic played?
Well, right now I do not synonymous next. It must now first see one another here.
"Nicecam" wrote:
If tapes various camcorders vary good (sometimes not) be played on, it can s.unterschiedlichem, feigned or just a faulty strap lie.
"Disguised track position" it is true, I think, rather.
I can not say more than thanks, I prefer it were I would have given you all and other times a synonymous kaffe.
