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Frage von Groetom:


Hi folks!
Please help me! I will buy myself in the next 2 weeks a new camcorder, and do not know what to buy.

I am just thinking on whether I tape for recording on a mini-DV to decide on a DVD or hard drive is. I think I hold that the mini-DV tape date will be someday and then I use my camera can not, or that the quality at some point no longer good enough. Can I, if I had DVD or hard drive, the films quickly transferred to the PC?
Which technology should I choose? Ask for expert advice, and why!

This must be the camcorder in any case can be:
To record movies in high quality
-At least 15x Zoom have (is it really necessary?)
Night-capture function (at 0 lux filming)
(S.PC editing the film with any video editing program, without having to convert the files! VERY IMPORTANT!)
(S.TV instantly watch movies but you can anyway) anyone

It does not have to have it (just do not EVER necessary):
-Take photos, because I want even a video camera and already have a digicam

I know that I would get the mini-DV s.billigsten system. But I'm ready when the DVD or hard disks system is better, more money to spend and invest in future technologies.
The question now is: Is it worth it?
I'm still in school and must now pay for my driver's license. So this is an important question of money!
I especially want to make amateur films and home videos.

If it is, synonymous tell me what camcorder s.Besten for me!

I ask for quick answers and am pleased with anyone who can help me!
Thanks in advance!

Groetom

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Antwort von Peter S.:

The MiniDV system is far from being outdated. In the professional field it is, synonymous with the very latest cameras with HDTV set up yet. DVD and hard drive as storage media, in my opinion only marketing ploy to entice customers to switch to new models. The films of DVD camcorders can be edited only with great difficulty, the DVDs are sauteuer at low recording time, the devices generally much more expensive. If you anyway have a limited budget, you'll get for the same money in a more efficient system MiniDV Camera. The cartridges are very cheap and have a much longer lifespan than synonymous DVDs. My first burned DVDs to weaken after 3 years now, my first MiniDV cassettes are after 6 years, all without error.
MFG Peter

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Antwort von GhostDog:

Hi,
Hard disks as primary storage media are i.Pr. not a bad idea, since the data transfer to PC is probably much faster, no costs incurred for the storage tapes and can / Aufnahmdauer much higher than that of his miniDV tapes. JVC has introduced such devices:
http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/JVC-stellt-Harddisks-Camcorders-vor-5452.html
Disadvantages are, however, MUs
- As already mentioned: Archiving to tape is not possible
- It captures, at least in the JVC to MPEG, which can be cut in general worse than the (still) dominant AVI format.
Gruss
ph

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So in this case I have to give Peter is quite right: mini-DV tape is still good for the hobby filmmakers and sufficient. Steer clear of DVD camcorder, records - well, that goes slowly with the JVC Everio.

The tapes are synonymous to save the O-appropriate material. For time-critical productions, one can on a laptop and firewire capture in addition to a hard drive, but that should be subject to testing and test (my NV-MX350 switches without tape after about 10 minutes into the demo mode, starting with tape after a few minutes; must, therefore run along with the tape recording, synonymous when I simultaneously capture on a plate).

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

during the fast data transfer to PC would be DVD / HDD camcorder even better, as only 1-1 possible with Mini DV
film is 60 min - 60 min capturing.
But the film cut for average earners MiniDV first choice.
Here, you get even simple Programs like Magix or Premiere Elements, the already quite many functions to perform for little money.
Drive In MPEG 2 (JVC hard, DVD camcorders) have the files 15 "parts" and are closely nested. In MiniDV each picture is saved individually. For Mpeg 2 similar areas are summarized, and such a high-speed computer is
necessary to carry out intensive calculations. The same goes for the more expensive video editing program.

January

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Antwort von Markus:

"Groetom" wrote: This must be the camcorder in any case can be:
-At least 15x Zoom have (is it really necessary?)

Hello Groetom,

above to request / question: How did you inform yourself properly before you have opened this thread? - Look into the following contributions from the month of August alone () in chronological order. Certainly there are already answered most of your questions:

" Welcher Camcorders ist besser: Panasonic GS11 oder GS17?
" Which camcorder with manual settings for aperture, shutter and focus?
" Brauche Hilfe - Camcorders bis 400 Euro of Quelle
" beginner looking for cheap camcorder with super battery
" Panasonic NV-GS250 miniDV
" Search Video Camera with the following criteria
" Camcorders with speziellen Anforderungen
" Questions about JVC GR-D290 or D270
" Welche Camera ist s.besten geeignet?
" The first camcorder purchase advice!
" Hilfe! Brauche DV Camcorders Empfehlungen! Tips!

...and so next! Weitere Beiträge dieser Art findest Du in der Camcorders-Rubrik. Nachfolgend noch ein paar abschreckende Beispiele für (oder besser gesagt gegen) DVD-Camcorders:

" Cutting of SonyDCR-DVD403 camcorder files ....
" SonyHandycam DCR-DVD202E wie schneiden?
" DVD postprocess possible? With what program?
" Kommt eine neue Generation auf dem Markt?
" Top SonyDVD or scrap??

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Antwort von GhostDog:

1. Thanks for all the answers, and that their presence so quickly!

2. You're right, synonymous and the other forum posts. I will resort to a Cam with Mini-DV system. First, because it has better quality and because this system is simply cheaper. Thank you that you have helped me to decide this question!

3rd SonyDCR-HC17E - camcorder Is this good? Can I buy that? (Which is me insecure: Noise Reduction (camera) is not present, is that bad?)
I PAY 377.59 ¬ for it. Vendor = Amazon

Or is this better? Is still pretty much the same, right? But has more accessories.:
SonyDCR-HC19E
I PAY 387 ¬ for it. Vendor = pixmania.at
(Which is me again unsettled: Noise Reduction (camera) is not present, is that bad?)

This is my last question, then I'll buy! So please help me again!

Thanks in advance! GROETOM


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Antwort von rtzbild:

"Groetom" wrote: Hi folks!
I am just thinking on whether I tape for recording on a mini-DV to decide on a DVD or hard drive is.

[...] Some quality is not good enough. Can I, if I had DVD or hard drive, the films quickly transferred to the PC?
Which technology should I choose? Ask for expert advice, and why!
Groetom


Hello Groetom,

because I give my speakers right, especially since the HDD cams have a huge disadvantage: If the disk is full (1 min = 1 GB!) is shooting with sense!

Purchase you miniDV Cam in ebay. Tip: Sony, Panasonic, JVC, in that order.
Optimally with opt. Stability and 3CCD.

Gruß Olli

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

well you're right, the HC 19, a HC is 17 with remote control and docking station.
The HC 17 is the best-selling camera in the entry, has relatively in all things
neatly cut off at the magazines. Their shortcoming is more than your connection options, no headphone jack, a microphone input only DV / AV out, no S-video. Ok in the price range is not expecting much, but if you are not satisfied with the sound, it will be difficult without micro-jack or intelligent system boot. From SonyHC 39 it would be possible with the system a micro shoe (of course only of Sony! Join) to improve the sound, looks, or Zoom micro wind Cut you at Sonyvergeblich. The question is, of course, like the other models
with the functions described in the simple built-in
Microphones improve the sound, eg Panasonic.
Because of the noise reduction, it has beaten the other models in daylight and low light, with the Carl Zeiss lens synonymous plays a good role.
And at least in my opinion of digital video assets without excessive shine naturally.

January

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Antwort von Groetom:

"Jan" wrote: Hello,

well you're right, the HC 19, a HC is 17 with remote control and docking station.
The HC 17 is the best-selling camera in the entry, has relatively in all things
neatly cut off at the magazines. Their shortcoming is more than your connection options, no headphone jack, a microphone input only DV / AV out, no S-video. Ok in the price range is not expecting much, but if you are not satisfied with the sound, it will be difficult without micro-jack or intelligent system boot. From SonyHC 39 it would be possible with the system a micro shoe (of course only of Sony! Join) to improve the sound, looks, or Zoom micro wind Cut you at Sonyvergeblich. The question is, of course, like the other models
with the functions described in the simple built-in
Microphones improve the sound, eg Panasonic.
Because of the noise reduction, it has beaten the other models in daylight and low light, with the Carl Zeiss lens synonymous plays a good role.
And at least in my opinion of digital video assets without excessive shine naturally.

January


Thx! So I think that I will not spend 100 ¬ more for the sound, then yes I would still cost the Micro synonymous. So I think I'll take the 19th HC Thanks for all the info!

Groetom

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