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Frage von XLR:


After my SonyDCR TRV620E now 7 years on the hump is, wants me to buy a new camera.
About the recording media, I am not sure. I cut my films with Final Cut Pro.
I'm looking for a professional camera that is affordable.
What are the demands I put:

important: good image quality synonymous with shots in the dark.

maximum angle
everything possible (sharpness, exposure, etc) should be manual eingestellbar
crisp colors,
Optical Image Stabilization
upgradeable
(Wide)
3CCD
f1 / 6 - f1 / 8
adjustable shutter speed
DV - In

stable housing
as small as possible so that they are synonymous at any time can take

Can anyone recommend what?
Custom videos for the thing, the synonymous gebeamt still look attractive.
I often in movies spaces. The atmosphere synonymous with dim lighting should be played.
My wish is maximum at 1200 ¬ including synonymous happy. With swabs in my wishlist I can live. I consider synonymous whether a device is used synonymous doing. If only risky .. What do you think?

I've read a lot now. HV20 seems to be good, SonyDCR TRV-900 is too expensive for the SonyDSR-PDX10P nowhere can I find a price and at SonyDCRs I have the feeling that they are not much better than the camera I own. The Canon XH A1 I like of course synonymous.

A friend of the Film Makers is even advised me to send me a good analog camera to obtain, and then through the Digital durchzuschleifen.
Extremely confused, I look forward to suggestions and opinions!
Thank you very much!

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

In a nutshell:
"Professional Camera" and "cheap" are two completely incompatible concepts. Unless you Holst you any old beta from ausgelutschte fourth hand.
What do we learn from this? Greed is not cool.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von XLR:

I know. But there are certainly a Camera, which comes s.nächsten my needs, huh? A good "cheap" New or Old discarded. Have you not the ultimate tip?

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Antwort von tinkoul:

to the image stabilizer and the dv-in would have the beta even everything;)

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Antwort von XLR:

Other ideas? :)

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"XLR" wrote: Have you not the ultimate tip?
Good used SonyVX2000. This is synonymous "only" a SonyDCR, but it is still better than your old ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von tinkoul:

Reminds me somehow s.das here:
Size Cam to 1200 ¬

For ¬ 1000 you get quite a camcorder that delivers good colors. (Where exactly synonymous to the demands on) The only problem is that one where virtually nothing can be manual adjust.

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Antwort von jansi:

The guest was me.

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Antwort von XLR:

Und nen foxtail it. Thank you!
The SonyDCR VX-2000 E is almost too bulky for my use. It should be small and with wide ausstaffierbar.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

.. Used what you get, but just in the consumer and prosumer. Professionally, among other things means synonymous "manual control", which will be priced in the used synonymous not easy to find.
Or just the old Beta - so the quality is still sufficient for broadcast material ... You will only get another sack full of problems.
Ne predicament is dat schon, wa? *)
BG
Andreas

*) Released after Kurt Krömer

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"XLR" wrote: ... DCR-VX 2000 E is almost too bulky for my use. It should be small and with wide ausstaffierbar.
Then we are probably back to the TRV900, you made inexplicable reasons as "too expensive" excluded searched. The only problem should be to find someone that is of a well-preserved specimen would disconnect.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von XLR:

What do you think of the HV 20?

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Antwort von jansi:

Certainly a good HDV camera, now synonymous cheap to have manual controls but leave something to be desired.

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Antwort von XLR:

If a camera such as the SonyDCR VX-2000, which is already so old is a real alternative? I have the camera market for a longer period is no longer observed, but is it worth a new camera to buy? Are there any REAL improvements vswas image quality in relatively dark rooms are concerned, the purchase of a new camera worth? I have little fear that the new camera at the price I can pay, but then behind my old camera behind ..

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Antwort von gunman:

Hello,
You buy the HV20 and you'll be satisfied. It is true that the manual controls not the nec plus ultra, but somewhere you have to be synonymous compromises schliessen.
If you have a camera like, at 1200 Euro, which is not yet synonymous still may be too large, then you're with the HV20 well served. Du has also HDV material that you are still in Schnittprogragmm to SD downscaling can.
If I had the choice between a used SD and a new GM would have 20. I would be safe for the HV20 decide.
PS: I do not advertise for CANON, but here in the forum we can read as good as nothing negative about the HV20.
Hope I could see the decision a little easier.
Gunman

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"XLR" wrote: Are there any REAL improvements vswas image quality in relatively dark rooms are concerned, the purchase of a new camera worth?
That is exactly the area that it almost gives only worse: Earlier camcorder could be bigger and more expensive, now, everything has to be tiny and cheap. There is much on the line, including synonymous, the Lowlight properties. And so in its class, the VX2000, or their successors VX2100 hardly changed to this day the measure of all things, when the light is poor.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Reimer Reimer:

"XLR" wrote: Can anyone recommend what?
Custom videos for the thing, the synonymous gebeamt still look attractive.
I often in movies spaces. The atmosphere synonymous with dim light
should be played.


Hello, XLR,

the Canon HV20 is a fine camera for little money, the Canon XH A1
currently has the best price-performance ratio: absolutely recommended
worth. But I would recommend you something else. At your desire
light comes on to something else.

Purchase your light for 1,200 euros.

Used lamps are not expensive, because you need lots of light to
uniformly low-light style. And you need Tripods, Fah -
NEN Lichtkram and in a certain quantity.

Look at even "Panic Room" of Fincher, it's excellent s.besten
DVD and triple-counting in the making of the lamps, with which it
wunderschöne diffuse create mood.

A discarded SonyVX2000 is of course synonymous a good choice if
much you shoot in low light like.

All the best Axel

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Antwort von ralleschaffrath:

"jansi" wrote: The guest was me.

no, I!

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Antwort von ralleschaffrath:

So now I've ordered my HV20. + Raynox HD-6600 + Filter Set 43 mm UV + pole + gray. And now confirmed to me that what is good!

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Antwort von tv-man_sh:

"Anonymous" wrote: So now I've ordered my HV20.
How does that fit because of the contribution to the heading "Professional Camera"?

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"tv-man_sh" wrote: "Anonymous" wrote: So now I've ordered my HV20.
How does that fit because of the contribution to the heading "Professional Camera"?

na maybe he has the
Quote: It is true that the manual controls not the nec plus ultra is
Read about or does not consider it important.
;-)
Andreas

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Antwort von Nacho:

"Anonymous" wrote: So now I've ordered my HV20. + Raynox HD-6600 + Filter Set 43 mm UV + pole + gray. And now confirmed to me that what is good!

It is good for something!
However, missing from your list or an external Micro - most get, a Rode Videomic.
Look at hv20.com to, because you will find valuable tips for the "pimp" of the HV20.
Here you'll find with the HV20 shot clips:
http://www.vimeo.com/HV20

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