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Frage von seb1983:


Hello,
I was recently with a production in which we DVCAM with four cameras (SonyDSR-450WSPL) were cast (instead of with Digibetas, as usual - "for reasons of cost").
We have Sony DVCAM tapes used (40 min. "PDVM-40N).
I have a bit herumgeguckt and seen that these tapes to the 15 Euro / St. cost.
What is the fundamental difference between MiniDV and DVCAM, it is clear to me already, but how it looks with the "hardware" of the tapes from?
The DVCAM tapes are of the type was not with the MiniDV tapes to distinguish (at least optical), and many small camcorders such as the PD150/170 may indeed synonymous in the DVCAM format on regular MiniDV tapes to record (eg 40 minutes in DVCAM 60 minutes on a MiniDV tape).

So basically my question - why is in such productions are not just "normal", much cheaper MiniDV tapes in DVCAM-format? Do the expensive Sony DVCAM Tapes better quality magnetic tapes? Why read it at all DVCAM tapes - but it can be in both formats anyway, so synonymous MiniDV, that record?
Is it simply money-possibly - in the usual 60-minute MiniDV tapes just "40 minutes DVCAM" and write out the price by 200% increase?
A few questions to me at the moment unclear.

If the magnetic tape in the DVCAM tapes somehow better quality should be, but one would still simply better MiniDV tapes can take as long as archiving plays no role here, since the recordings directly s.den Channel and has been in a few week, broadcast, and for archiving in the transmitter always on a different format or copied. Or because I overlooked something?

Edit from Mod: question in the section "camcorder-accessories folder.

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

the most important thing is probably that, in DVCAM Sound and image signals through a Audiolock synchronized. This is particularly with the use of multiple cameras for a cutter of great advantage if he contributes to the picture and sound signals zusammenmischt. Otherwise, it is difficult to correct the second place ....

In DVCAM (the "professional" DV) is the recording track synonymous wide (15 microns - DV = 10 microns)

The cartridges are synonymous resilient, which is synonymous one reason for the pros.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan:

Oh so wrong I've read.

I'm not sure whether the MiniDV cassette of the same specifications DVCAM supported. It would need one in the Camera Instructions times look.

The tape is better but the rest?

VG
Jan

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Antwort von seb1983:

Quote: the most important thing is probably that, in DVCAM Sound and image signals through a Audiolock synchronized.
Quote: In DVCAM (the "professional" DV) is the recording track synonymous wide (15 microns - DV = 10 microns)
It was already clear to me, those are the fundamental differences in the recording format. But these benefits have indeed synonymous, when in the DVCAM format on MiniDV tapes to record.
I am more concerned about the "hardware" - what are the differences between MiniDV - DVCAM tapes and s.sich - apart from price?

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Antwort von Jan:

Have a look at Sonynachgeschaut - mine about this:

If you use a DVCAM tape are:

Dropouts - 50% unwarscheinlicher than DV
Error - about 5% lower than DV
Life - about 30% longer than DV
Dimensional tolerances - about 50% narrower than DV
Volume shrinkage - about 50% lower than DV

VG
Jan

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Antwort von seb1983:

Hmm okay, thanks for the search :-)

And I think that one still synonymous the cheaper MiniDV tapes would take, and I myself have a much better MiniDV Camera and had asked the computer to capture never seen a drop - and after nearly 600 head hours. Accordingly, I believe that in the price class of the DSR-450 the risk of dropouts synonymous not very high to be ... Cams provided by distributors regularly maintained ...
And as I said - the life cycle plays no major role synonymous, because the tapes directly into the cut go to the archive to be copied and then again in the waste land ...

And so what I can see where in the production nowadays is saved (eg extension cords .... * g *), makes the already financially so what - 7 days 5-6 tapes per day per camera ...

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes that's true.

If I am honest, I have in the DSR PD 170 DVCAM Recording synonymous with never a pure DVCAM tape but it had the 2-2,5 ¬ Fuji DVC tapes. DVCAM Although I have only taken about 3 times ....

And the Sony own statements are sometimes synonymous with caution.

I was just not 100% sure whether the pure DVCAM cassette somewhere not yet have an important difference.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

You can resume normal DVCAM DV tapes record. I've been such a tape-off and get me first because of the many errors in the playback wondered that until I am come to destroy the tape once in Eiene DVCAM recorder is supposed to be capable.

Recording and playback So technically possible. What I can not answer, the question for a better Verarbeitungsquallität AUDIT AND possibly related to the better mechanical properties.

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Antwort von Markus:

"seb1983" wrote: I am more concerned about the "hardware" - what are the differences between MiniDV - DVCAM tapes and s.sich - apart from price?
Most are the quality differences are not immediately apparent, but reveal only in direct comparison and more preferably under borderline conditions. Otherwise, the differences in the preferred range of laboratory measurements are - of the drop-out probability, perhaps apart.

I have here only a few synonymous DVCAM tapes recorded and take advantage of much more ordinary types of DV. Often the client wants the synonymous not do otherwise and so long as the recording and playback devices will be maintained, I have no concerns as synonymous.

If the tape anyway just for the short-term use is, to my mind speaks nothing to the DVCAM - synonymous or DV mode on DV tapes recorded. It must not be the allerbilligsten ...

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