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[Kaufberatung] for a Tripod for camcorder and digital camera



Frage von zeroz:
Dezember 2007

Hi, I'm looking for a universal tripod for digital camera and Camcorders.Eins for the small purse to 100 ¬. Have not experience with tripods and before I decide wrong somewhere, I wanted me one or the other proposal or refer to articles. Have you already read the synonymous to the head to consider. The most important thing however is that the tripod for a digital camera and a camcorder and will be suitable for under 100 ¬.

For the following models:
Panasonic NV-GS280EB-S
FujiFilm F40fd

For each of your suggestions, I am grateful.

PS Yes I have the "SEARCH" used but unfortunately not suitable or interesting for me can find.

greetz Oz



Antwort von Nacho:

Will spare you a headache: Velbon DV-7000



Antwort von zeroz:

Super Tip, really. :-). Is the synonymous suited for digital cameras? Should include celebrations and feasts are einesetzt. And as times as the question is synonymous head interchangeable? Against other products such as heads of Velbon. If I retrofit times or does it ever? I am interested synonymous times.

greetz Oz





Antwort von Markus:

"ZEROZ" wrote:
Super Tip, really. :-)

I'm not sure because formal irony?

The DV -7000 I would have suggested you synonymous, because video recordings are part of critical pans and smooth with just steamed head are possible.

By contrast, photography tripod with a video image is limited to landscape, unless one buys a Dutch head to it but only for professional Tripods there (= ¬ four-price).

"ZEROZ" wrote:
And as times as the question is synonymous head interchangeable?

Yes, the (2d-video-friendly) you can unscrew the head. What other (foto 3d fair-) Tripod heads up match, perhaps you will find on the



Antwort von zeroz:

Was already on the website, but I was out of the whole stuff is not clever, it's all new territory for me. Ne little help would be really nice :-).

greetz Oz



Antwort von Jan:

Since you have a problem anyway, so really good combos gibts eigentlich nicht. Modo Manfrottos as compact variant, I now try. I think the swing with a Videocam with the Modo was not acceptable, especially if a computer is next to 7000. But small and easy it is.

Video 2-way head - up + down + left & right

- DV 7000 is the recommendation for ¬ 100 thanks to the fluid head - when panning a video camera is very important - that it runs smoothly.

Still Image 3 way head - you can for 2 way video head again to change the axis is portrait, which is not unimportant (I do with my Fuji ca 30% of portrait photography - for individuals) - with video will be more likely not to portrait direction. Photo can hold heads zackig ruckig work, you want just the right position to get the Camera (zb ball quickly) - (gearbox - accurate).

DV 7000 has 3 / 8 "thread, but still a Still Image 3 way head with 3 / 8" will be difficult to buy for 100 ¬.

VG
Jan



Antwort von zeroz:

"Jan" wrote:
Still Image 3 way head - you can for 2 way video head again to change the axis is portrait, which is not unimportant (I do with my Fuji ca 30% of portrait photography - for individuals) - with video will be more likely not to portrait direction. Photo can hold heads zackig ruckig work, you want just the right position to get the Camera (zb ball quickly) - (gearbox - accurate).


How does that change the axis of the tripod or I misunderstood something.

And 3Wege head with 3 / 8 threads, Velbon has not something for the DV 7000 and there are certainly still good cheap alternatives. But is now irrelevant. I am now more ineressiert with the axis :-). Understand it is not entirely successful.

greetz Oz



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"ZEROZ" wrote:
Understand it is not entirely successful.

Do you have a photo dealer in the neighborhood? Not the Blödmarkt or Geizabteilung, no, a real photo dealer with sellers right?
If you "with the axes" when reading does not understand - it was, incidentally, has quite explained - should you look at the differences just in the shop can show.



Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote:
... video is more likely not to portrait direction.

You ahnst not what I video digitizing so get to see everything! 16:9 portrait ... suitable for fine before Television (lying crosswise) asleep. ;-)

"ZEROZ" wrote:
How does that change the axis of the tripod or I misunderstood something.

2d = swivel left / right and up / down possible (video)
3d = left / right, up / down, Quer-/Hochformat (Still Image)

Similar discussion:




Antwort von Jan:

Andi & Böser meaner! I'm from the other planets - which is now no longer wants to be stingy, but hates expensive ....

To view a business is not so bad - you have so you do not entertain with the seller, if you do not want to.

Maybe someone will give you the Manfrotto 785 B MoDo recommend, well the idea is nice, with a determination of the axis on video recordings.

VG
Jan



Antwort von zeroz:

Well, myself and decided to take the Velbon DV7000. Now I would just like to know if there is a 3-way head for the DV7000 Tripod are synonymous so that I can photograph. Preferring synonymous of the same company and about 100 ¬, 3 / 8 thread.

A photo shop, we have nowhere near the next town is about 50 n.weg. And then I usually still up at night s.schaffen, so I had not. Mostly Order online.

greetz Oz

Blödmarkt and Geizabteilung I do not go to such important matters. The EHH are wrong.



Antwort von Jan:

ZEROZ - but that is an absolute flat statement. There are just simpletons and mentally in the shop - I know both sides (5 years & 5 years Fachgeschäft Saturn). I know very good seller at Saturn, but noticed that this almost all the shop started. Also a reason why we have almost everything Dahab, most small retailers have about 20 digicams and 10 camcorder because, for me there are about 100 digicams and 40 camcorder. Especially in HD even see many specialty vendors not to have the latest Canon Roadshow training again shown - in Munich have given some silly intermediate with foolish questions.

If I tell you, with how little basic (Pixelwahn) the customer to me in the market - that is rather frightening. Before 0 inquired and the Marktingsprüchen believe.

Leave that aside ...

VG
Jan



Antwort von zeroz:

Well, I always first ask me about everything there was as quality, price, etc. .. then I walk if necessary until Media Markt Saturn o..

Quote:
Now, I just want to know if there is a 3-way head for the DV7000 Tripod are synonymous so that I can photograph. Preferring synonymous of the same company and about 100 ¬, 3 / 8 thread.


That is the only one where I still want to be elucidated. Then I would have everything I need.

greetz Oz



Antwort von Jan:

That may indeed make the other users who are all better than I know, because they are not employed at Saturn ....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

... Touch!
So, who now writes s.die Velbon company, although the answer to the question of a change in the head on the website is indeed already included ...?
;-)))))



Antwort von zeroz:

Quote:
So, who now writes s.die Velbon company, although the answer to the question of a change in the head on the website is indeed already included ...?


I do not know what you mean by that. Unfortunately, I can the text on the homepage Velbon not decipher because my english more than bad.

Quote:
That may indeed make the other users who are all better than I know, because they are not employed at Saturn ....


@ Jan:
What has this to do with Saturn? So I've definitely not want to offend or similar. Perhaps you have read my text synonymous misunderstood. My response was more related to the customer. See quote below. I wanted to say nähmlich I somewhere before I go into the trade, I only have the product that I would like to inquire. :-). or me for example, here's advice.

Quote:
If I tell you, with how little basic (Pixelwahn) the customer to me in the market - that is rather frightening. Before 0 inquired and the Marktingsprüchen believe.


greetz Oz

@ Andreas:
Where is the answer to my question about the change of head? En garde ... ;-)



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

The fact that Velbon heads not change for the 7000, but for a few other models anpreist, allows a certain conclusion.



Antwort von zeroz:

It's bl **, I would like the synonymous tripod for my digital camera use. And there seems to be a 3-way head zusein probably indispensable. Since I have to unfortunately turn away from the DV -7000. There are alternatives to silk from Velbon or other companies with which the computer can keep up and I have a 3-way head can unscrew it.

Otherwise, call me a good tripod with a 3-way head and a price between ¬ 0-100 max. 125 ¬ (pain threshold). With the fluid head would be quite nice synonymous.

greetz Oz

PS Allen, a Merry Christmas.



Antwort von Jan:

Well - I suppose.

The Tripod of the DV 7000 has 1 / 4 "or 3 / 8" (with adapter) thread - the 3.8 "adapter is in the head (PH-368) - can be seen if 3 / 8" desired, without adapter is the 1 / 4 "is the same as for most Still Image & video cameras.

An effective 3-way head of zb is the Velbon PH 157 Q (often included in many Velbon tripods photo) - 1 / 4 "connection, ie directly on the tripod of DV 7000th

Yeah, I briefly tested times today - that my JVC GZ HD 3, DV 7000 must take down - the customers looked funny - "what's now?" - PH 157 and Q set out - it works!

If you do not want to do portrait shots (you could be the 2 way video head is somehow in a similar position 3 way - but not necessarily easy), can calm the PH drauf 368 remain.

Here again, the catalog of Velbon in German:





Antwort von zeroz:

Ahhh ... because the situation now is very different from :-). Thanks for your help and for the catalog. Will it look like me.

greetz Oz



Antwort von Markus:

"ZEROZ" wrote:
And there seems to be a 3-way head zusein probably indispensable.

That's just your dilemma: While the only shooting poorly on the 3d-head can do, so little can the video on the attenuation refrain, at least if one synonymous smooth pan / tilt wishes.



Antwort von Mikado 99:

Hello ZEROZ,

It aims to provide a combined video - photo tripod for around 100 euro! Such a tripod, there is not, Whatever brand it is synonymous. For the holidays, I have increased my tripod, which would correspond to your wishes. Only a small flaw is present, namely the price.
My "holiday Tripod looks from below:
Manfrotto 190B Tripod,
Manfrotto Nivellierkopf 438,
Manfrotto Camera Plate 577,
Video Eiger Velbon PH-268, Vel-flo 10,
Manfrotto 523 PRO remote.
A conversion from film to the photo tripod stand is at the lowest possible weight and cost. These are necessary, a second column and the 3 D Manfrotto Magnesium Eiger 460th MG Both funds columns are interchangeable.
The switch from video - for the photo tripod requires only four handles. Screw the bracket means pillars solve center column, pull, photo center column and insert the locking screw tighten the center column. The reconstruction is finished.
The entire tripod weighs about 4000 grams and has a transport height of approximately 69 cm.
As I said, this compilation has a stand with me for the holidays and cameras up to about 2000 grams proven, but not for about 100 euros to get. The above video head Velbon PH-268 is under www.fett-video.de to relate.



Antwort von zeroz:

Bad does it feel not to :-). But the little blemishes enstellt the whole a bit * g *. My face,-o, when I look at the price of the whole look 500 ¬ - 1000 ¬. An amateur filmmaker like me skin it in every instance in order.

With the proposal of Jan, I am very satisfied. More I need not be synonymous. 143 ¬ this is already my highest pain threshold, more should not be synonymous.

Nevertheless, thank you

Merry Christmas ...

greetz Oz



Antwort von zeroz:

So thanks s.die posters from the community. I now have the Velbon DV -7000 and the matching 3-Way Head Velbon PH-157 Q. I am looking forward to the Tripod.

grüße Oz



Antwort von Jan:

I think the kit fits the budget.

Have fun!

VG
Jan



Antwort von inferno_one:

I can only say so much: a Velbon DV-6000 ranges from completely synonymous, if one camcorder like the Canon HV20 uses. the dv-7000 is simply a piece of massive and longer, but really makes no difference, the technique is exactly the same. as a beginner, one Velbon DV-6000, certainly. because you have very good quality at the best price you can expect ....



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"inferno_one" wrote:
the dv-7000 is simply a piece of massive and longer

This is precisely the advantage over the 6000!



Antwort von Jan:

Well let everyone decide for themselves, 3.37 Kg can be synonymous nerves.

But these are cheap plastic things on time already enjoy with caution, with a Henkelmann is the DV 7000 but certainly better at the small 20mm one can argue ....

Velbon ist ja schon ne large number (remember the one in Germany do not), have even heard the number 1 manufacturer of the tripod in the world, leaders England, Japan and USA.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Markus:

"Jan" wrote:
Velbon ist ja schon ne large number (remember the one in Germany do not), have even heard the number 1 manufacturer of the tripod in the world, leaders England, Japan and USA.

Applies only to the consumer market or are there Velbon synonymous of any professional support systems?



Antwort von Jan:

In the case where it makes the most mass. Have any professional Tripods - I think not, Manfrotto maximum level.

I was completely dumbfounded, as my representative of Velbon leader said ....

VG
Jan




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