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Frage von Giagl:
Februar 2008

Hi!

I will most likely soon in a very well known and gehobenerem Society Club video rotate an image. We would be shooting with a SONY Z1E in HDV and DV output as ...

I would then really nice, warm and colorful material. I now consider whether I might not be a compendium with filter use, because an acquaintance said that a man with a matte box with the correct filters, colors get much better than in retrospect, the color averaged adapt. Dream result would be soein video as it HERE (scroll down and click Video3) and I think that with a very good Z1E s.so a result may come. The lighting would be similar to the example video, but perhaps not quite so aggressive. My question now is whether your friend would compendium, and if so what filter? I know a landlord of a large number s.Filters rented. SonyHVL-20DW2 head light is synonymous and used an idea would have a larger reflector to use and possibly with the light to expose because I fear that the light in a dark environment reflects too much when it is near s.Objekt.

I would rotate in 16:9 but whether 24p or 60i, I am synonymous still not so sure because although I like the 24p Effect but I do not know if this at a club so good lighting is so good but I know not synonymous, because I have never been to a club had filmed. But I probably s.besten movies with 60i and can then herunterkonvertieren ... So your opinion please smiley Or perhaps someone has experience and can recommend me exact settings.

Thank you



Antwort von Giagl:

1. The link is missing.
2. The Z1 does not have 24p, only 50i.
3. HDV is 16:9 ;-)



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I now consider whether I might not be a compendium with filter use, because an acquaintance said that a man with a matte box with the correct filters, colors get much better than in retrospect, the color averaged adapt.

The überleg prefer you again ... as if what goes in the pants, this is no longer to save. A professional gets maybe out ...
Presumably you have not synonymous much opportunity to sample recordings to make the club because that would possibly be (in any case you störst during rehearsals).
The cited "Video3" does not exist ...
BG, Andreas





Antwort von Giagl:

oh sorry here http://www.empire-club.at/empire.php?destination=wien

I consider only the least synonymous Mattebox to use first, because I try as much as possible to unscrew the camera because the attention of visitors so now synonymous is not entirely unimportant and with a vollbepackten Z1E easier to influence than with any small camcorder and 2 I think there are many lights in the club (Strobo, laser, etc.) which disrupt the building safely and with the matte could be this, I think, at least to some degree counteract.

The problem could arise that the cam with a matte in the club despite kopflich get enough light?



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I think there are many lights in the club (Strobo, laser, etc.) which disrupt the building safely

"Annoying" - well, you get a matte box with a "clinically pure" picture without reflections from the lens without scattering, but simply a picture with a lot less atmosphere ... but it is a matter of taste. I would in any event without all the gimmicks light fade.
"Anonymous" wrote:

The problem could arise that the cam with a matte in the club despite kopflich get enough light?

no, no. Filter if it were more of a problem, which is a further reason for the waiver would be.
BG, Andreas



Antwort von Axel:

Wen Strobos disturb, or laser, does not belong in a club. Mattebox is total nonsense, head light for portraits well, logically, not for shots. We already have more club record at the critical light with essentially identical FX1, not problems. I recommend Headphones and manual Tonaussteuerung be synonymous only partially O-Sound can be used.
This example video has been synonymous with head made of light, presumably otherwise fully automatic, including sound, although it was probably useless. As I said, no problem with this camera.



Antwort von Giagl:

Hello! Thank you for your helpful comments so far!

Once again, matte ... it is in the Mattebox not quite matter that the whole picture then in effect but looks good. The operator asked me to write a bit more draufzupacken (head light, extra Micro, matte, FigRig, possibly extra TFT monitor) just for this reason, since I myself am still a student, a bit younger and the more demanding visitors do not feel taught would be given of a freak but with video of a professional use of video producers will be filmed ...

But I will be just some pictures with and some without a matte because I think it is helpful synonymous, because the entire clip "verblitzt" filming is not synonymous and the true wishes of the operators do not.

Lg



Antwort von Axel:

You look like a disciple of and believe, with all sorts of ballast to the Camera flay you feel at vollgedröhnten Ravern? Put yourself in a moment on sunglasses (not any).

Do what you like. I wish you that you're less keen on, something to suggest, to make any impression. You have a damn mission, an important task affecting your honor that you so well there is any wish to meet. And du film verpeilte Proll and Tussen, dallier and busybodies in a club. As for the thinking, if they are able to do, or whether you're a small Videopimpf hold, you can completely equal. Not with theater-up equipment, which stamps you tried just as amateur. Before you even have to have respect for you, then you can have on the significant expression of the other whistle.
Quote:
... and the most demanding visitors do not get the feeling to be of a freak but with video of a professional use of video producers will be filmed ...

Have you ever noticed that professional cameramen never wear a suit, if any VIPs give a rendezvous? You could feel the simple, often casual to sloppy outfit would be an expression of lack of reverence. And so it is. For the cinematographer, it is important to still have the urge to self-other to wonder, he needs but motives. None would be helped if the cameraman with the person who is self-drive.

Would be useful with a head light lens, or the possibility of an additional scattering foil manner.

A FigRig is synonymous sense that you could attach the lamp (and in between the short time frame to sell).

External Micro, and a matte screen are nonsense. The card is so unwieldy that you are tiring and despite FigRig your arms start to tremble.



Antwort von roedely:

hi ... thank you so, I think, really right.

I have made a mistake above! I use no fig rig but easy rig turtle x!



Antwort von r.p.television:

One advantage of the matte in the club but, synonymous when it now sounds pretty stupid.
It does not come so easily weld spatter on the lens. Especially in such a techno shed where people rumspringen how silly and mutually antransparieren brings Mattebox crucial centimeters between Lens and axillary Felix :-)



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"rptelevision" wrote:
Especially in such a techno Shed (...)

na my Gudster, you probably received the statement not be read?
"One guest wrote:
in a very well known and Society gehobenerem Club

This is a hochgestylter, chromglitzernder overpriced and no-shed full of jaded that is Papis coal with a mild evening make hope and implore, with money, their future job as a subaltern-Josef Ackermann and plenty of business ramblings any sharp Proll Tussen-tow to can. rumgehopst It will not! As will be relaxed abgechillt cool!
If, as you get no more than a few splashes of Prosecco on the lens or a saudoofen saying in his ear. Because I would prefer hearing protectors along :-)



Antwort von Axel:

"rptelevision" wrote:
Especially in such a techno shed where people rumspringen how silly and mutually antransparieren brings Mattebox crucial centimeters between Lens and axillary Felix :-)

I gained the impression
Quote:
... the discerning visitor ...

that it is not so as to shed XTC act, rather a reason versnobten coke in the club like Raffaelo advertising ( "We in the Caribbean do not like to eat fat").
If however the first version: filters I assume, cloth to wipe synonymous wär nicht schlecht. Perhaps a recording of splashing against welding as in the Boxszene of Raging Bull ;-)



Antwort von r.p.television:

I thought he was the club in the linked video is shown. It looks even more like Techno, House & Co.
If because their sweaty mane rumwirft, extends a cloth to wipe out no longer - just because you need a glass cleaner :-)

But if it really is such a high-society club Dumpfbacken act. This is the maximum penalty for each cameraman (next to forensic medicine and sewerage)!
Here come all the pages of name-Droping attacks of professional daughters that you like in a welcome change to see Vollschwallen. You need have a certain maturity, so that the character is not spoiled, because if you have to work more often .....



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

... The same with a verbose post thread begun in hacker movies


Antwort von robbie:

yes, the people of hacker movies are probably rare in any such or similar "locations" access ...
well, you have to decide what you want ... if you are on to outline that a blonde deep dekolletiertes entrepreneur / doctor / anwaltstöchterlein under the brand pull, then pull the suit to lease you a DigiBeta, is a funny kaperl to take a cameraman and a tonmenschen with, and make to Steven Spielberg.
if you shoot a good video, then take your camera, a kopflich, and a nice tripod. you play with deep uncertainty, let the bright light, and shows that you are moody einfängst ... barkeeper and the rest is to your friend (and supply technically motiv technically) ...



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

I can reassure you ... If you are naked with a professional camera work, you do not stamped as a freak. If your camera replete with loud whistles and still have each scene three times before they must rotate in the box or with your eyes you anorexic bitches behind ecstasy schieler instead to film brings you the whole equipment nothing. A professional appearance is much more important than a professional camera. (Apart from certain people)

Mitter now I have lots of accessories for my camera but it comes with or what I just synonymous apparently would require. It is often only one head light + battery pack.

What definitely makes sense and certainly synonymous already mentioned: Closed Headphones and Microphones fixed level. From my own unpleasant experience: Take a few synonymous good Ohrschützer to plug with. You will not come around synonymous times in the immediate vicinity of the boxing record and if you're not with a sudden deafness want to come home, remember ;-)

By the way: clubs, dance and Besaufveranstaltungen I hate like the plague. I will usually stand in front of decision: Lashing out and beat it or stand and the relevant people to despise ;-)

Since I too am a pacifist set it always remains at the latter. Although I and my equipment makes an champagne shower or have someone get my flash has stopped.



Antwort von r.p.television:

"smooth-Appeal wrote:


By the way: clubs, dance and Besaufveranstaltungen I hate like the plague. I will usually stand in front of decision: Lashing out and beat it or stand and the relevant people to despise ;-)


Or with the wolves howl. Easy even drunk - then you see everything in a rosier light ;-)
However, in this case synonymous under the influence of Rennbenzin shall be safe and its camera can operate blindly.
So nothing for the Camera Rookies for the first time in their hands.
In this case: Schön cola drink whiskey or rum and leave!



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

That even with the drunk is not the synonymous yellow from the egg ...

Then I stand before the decision: Self-punishment or contempt of myself after my equipment on the ground and fallen in a pool of different spirits, shattered glass and other debris, or I've even driven the extent that I even wake up next to my equipment ;-)

Dont drink and film or how it was * g *



Antwort von Zedt:

So with "gehobenerem Club's me but I really something else, as already noted, the intellectual sub-league, as does a perfectly FigRig stories after impression, otherwise keep it that part is only on average,
best,
Max



Antwort von r.p.television:

"smooth-Appeal wrote:

Then I stand before the decision: Self-punishment or contempt of myself ....


You go hard but with you in court .... ;-)



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Maybe they would then self-castigation from another drunk there ... How hard do I find it's not:-D



Antwort von Axel:

"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Maybe they would then self-castigation from another drunk there ... How hard do I find it's not:-D

Set the thread starter but no Flausen in the head. He is a student, the Camera is just borrowed. I advise to strict fasting. Just today (Rose Monday) is here with us again of the drunken moose peg. Real deterrent. In mood Schunkel a hand camera? The Cloverfield is in the shade.
Although:
http://forum.slashcam.de/kleines-musikvideo-vt56374.html



Antwort von eXp:

"Axel" wrote:
Just today (Rose Monday) is here with us again of the drunken moose peg. Real deterrent.

I have a northern lights in the area times a few years before. We are up here certainly no child of sadness, but what goes off in Kölle, etc., is really not funny. Is there really no Anti-carnival film? So a properly evil? Where Jecke watch after 15 minutes blood falls already get?
:-)))))



Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"Axel" wrote:
Just today (Rose Monday) is here with us again of the drunken moose peg. Real deterrent.

I have a northern lights in the area times a few years before. We are up here certainly no child of sadness, but what goes off in Kölle, etc., is really not funny. Is there really no Anti-carnival film? So a properly evil? Where Jecke watch after 15 minutes blood falls already get?
:-)))))

Which is missing a gene. Throughout the year, bound models for the cartoonists Haderer (asterisk), then shame on all Carnival store and show all the nakedness. A carnival film itself would be the best anti-carnival film, just remember Jecke not. Jeck = crazy. Right.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

"Axel" wrote:
"smooth-Appeal wrote:
Maybe they would then self-castigation from another drunk there ... How hard do I find it's not:-D

Set the thread starter but no Flausen in the head. He is a student, the Camera is just borrowed. I advise to strict fasting.


That was synonymous not the main message. You're certainly Cutter ;-)



Antwort von DWUA:

Example of a successful film satire:

www.filmzentrale.com / rezis / kehrausg.htm

And for the rest of the year:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Deix



Antwort von r.p.television:

"Axel" wrote:

Which is missing a gene. Throughout the year, bound models for the cartoonists Haderer (asterisk), then shame on all Carnival store and show all the nakedness. A carnival film itself would be the best anti-carnival film, just remember Jecke not. Jeck = crazy. Right.


That describes it pretty well. At the local carnival balls (in Bavaria says yes ma Carnival) we are exactly the grouchy neighbor, the grill at the last party to the friend and helper has tried because it's so funny to us was.
At the carnival will Geschunkel, Schenkel Klopfer, Polonese with Dauergrins-Hackfresse and bad music in the best interests of that is the cultural decline of the Occident must fear.
Where in Bavaria are not quite as bad as in the Rhineland. I am not a child of sadness, but because I would think the first week included. Too much fun can not be healthy.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Finally normal people :-)




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