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Frage von bigaxl:


Hello community.

As Amateufilmer with 30-years of experience (boah), I have a few years ago, the Hobby (DV Cutting through Premiere miit a VX2000) lost from sight, and because A. the potential technique, style, limited resources. The eternal video look more taught me nothing and everything else was me as a hobbyist simply too expensive.

By purchasing a HD beamer with Blu-ray player, I just visually vorgestossen into new worlds. However, by my own beloved DVDs so far technically resolution on the screen 3m quite old. The idea to film in HD was born. Now I read the web for weeks now empty and wish me back in the nineties. what a mess. : ((

Just when I had decided the issue definitively bury, dropped me a EOS 5D mkII into the hands and it's happened to me. Despite all the shortcomings of technical castration firmware (I am convinced that as soon as a hack to come xy.ru.to) is the piece of hardware a real drug. There are new films, where the script is directed to the hardware and not vice versa. ;)

Now, yes, in this context has infinitely posted, but a reasonable workflow, I still could not extract it.

Furthermore, to me the question to what "future viability" I format the output should be cut result. Goal is to create a BD, if the blanks are affordable and similar authoring programs are s.Markt. Until then I will clean container files on a MM-Player (WD TV) time. Initial trials with the device, and Sony Vegas Studio are very promising.

For future compatibility, a BD m2ts stream suitable and 24p represents both the BD specs, as it should be synonymous to develop to the standard 24p crutch by available 48/50p-Technik will be replaced.

It remains zunächt my problem, the 30p's in the Mov convert to 24p and bucking and without conversion losses. Maybe you can indeed synonymous editing program in the same reach. For tips, I am grateful and perhaps is so synonymous in this thread is the best Gesamtweg.

cu
Axel

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Antwort von Marco:

"It remains my zunächt problem, the 30p's in the Mov convert to 24p and bucking and without conversion losses. Maybe you can so synonymous in the same editing program can reach."

Yes, you can the same or synonymous in Vegas Movie Studio make. But a conversion of 30p to 24p is always either bucking or a loss of quality to be overburdened. This is in the nature of things, regardless of the software that is used.

Either you can in Vegas / Movie Studio in the resampling Clipeigenschaften activated and render to 24p, then there will be no format conversion Jerkiness give conditional. But then all frames must be calculated and in motion phases are caused synonymous new picture content, leading to a loss of quality leads.
Or you disable the resampling in the Clipeigenschaften, then there will be no loss of quality due to the 30p-> 24p conversion, but then just dropped frames, which inevitably led to a significant, rhtythmischen Jerkiness lead.

There are generally only those two possibilities, although the procedures for recalculation of frames in the above first method of a system that can vary, which is synonymous in the quality can be reflected.
Systems that make the really good, really expensive slnd synonymous. Similar results should not be of a 50-euro software expect the sort only in passing in the cutting operation makes. But try it yourself and judge.

Marco

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Antwort von domain:

Mir is the hype about the EOS 5D mkII, and cryptic. What do you want in our country because with 30p start? Each conversion into common Fps is a crutch of house.
While this camera is not at least 25p or 24p dominated, I do not even a single eye on it. And yet by the fact that 25p special measures at the point of recording is required, which I do not have the slightest desire.
So it is interesting only in 50p, but that is synonymous not be long.

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Antwort von Marco:

I think 30p in order, until there is a PAL-TV production or PAL DVD should be. The application areas that are to use computer-based, shall now become enormous and 30p of this is almost ideal (if it remains synonymous 30p).

Marco

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Antwort von bigaxl:

"Marco" wrote:
There are generally only those two possibilities, although the procedures for recalculation of frames in the above first method of a system that can vary greatly,
Marco

Thanks for the info. How it looks when the 30p to 60i (59.94) should be considered?

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Antwort von bigaxl:

"domain" wrote:
So it is interesting only in 50p, but that is synonymous not be long.

Not more than 5-10 years.

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Antwort von bigaxl:

"Marco" wrote: I think 30p in order, until there is a PAL-TV production or PAL DVD should be. The application areas that are to use computer-based, shall now become enormous and 30p of this is almost ideal (if it remains synonymous 30p).

Marco


30p is just not blu-ray compatible.

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Antwort von domain:

"bigaxl" wrote: "domain" wrote:
So it is interesting only in 50p, but that is synonymous not be long.

Not more than 5-10 years.


5-10 years?
Full HD 60p gibts so now in the Xacti VPC-HD 2000
http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD2000-Test-7359.html

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Antwort von bigaxl:

"domain" wrote:
5-10 years?
Full HD 60p gibts so now in the Xacti VPC-HD 2000
http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD2000-Test-7359.html

I said of course with 35mm chip for the consumer area.

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Antwort von Marco:

"Thanks for the info. What does it look like if the 30p to 60i (59.94) should be considered?"

Try it yourself s.einer short test sequence, which contains motion.

Marco

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Antwort von bigaxl:

"Marco" wrote:

Try it yourself s.einer short test sequence, which contains motion.

Marco


Just tried. In one project in Vegas NTSC HD 1080 60i with 29.97 fps and created as a Blu-ray compliant with ISO 1920x1080-60i at 25 Mbit / s created. Sensational. Good quality no Geruckel. The WD is the best ISO again. Now I just need someone, find me an ISO of a Blu-ray burns in order to see whether these synonymous on my Panasonic BD55 player synonymous runs. That would be it.

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